xxJohnxx Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Maybe an F-94! (One of the guys at Lockonforum.de had that idea) Uh, never heard of that aircraft before but you might be onto something. It would fit the time area and it probably is of similar complexity than the MiG-21. However, how would one explain the Marines statement? I don't think the Marines would ever consider an interceptor for their missions... Check out my YouTube: xxJohnxx Intel i7 6800k watercooled | ASUS Rampage V Edition 10 | 32 GB RAM | Asus GTX1080 watercooled
Buzzles Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Perhaps its the F-104 xD Which would still be just as awesome. Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here!
Buckeye Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) Interview with Leatherneck Studios Perhaps its the F-104 xD Could be. I think the German Navy (translation: Deutsche Marine) used it, but I don't think the USMC did. Edited October 29, 2014 by =Buckeye= Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
xxJohnxx Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) Could be. I think the German Navy (translation: Deutsche Marine) used it [...] Yes they did! The widow-maker sure would be a great addition for DCS. Especially after it has been cancelled before... Link: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/F-104G_MFG2_Ramstein_1984.jpg Edited October 29, 2014 by xxJohnxx Check out my YouTube: xxJohnxx Intel i7 6800k watercooled | ASUS Rampage V Edition 10 | 32 GB RAM | Asus GTX1080 watercooled
thawall Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 You're right. The German "Marineflieger" used them definitely. I read a book about them this summer...
Buckeye Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Yes they did! The widow-maker sure would be a great addition for DCS. Especially after it has been cancelled before... I edited my post above. It was the German Navy that used it, the Navy translation in German is Marine. Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
thawall Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Yes they did! The widow-maker sure would be a great addition for DCS. Especially after it has been cancelled before... Link: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/F-104G_MFG2_Ramstein_1984.jpg It would also fit the MiG-21, as it was its main adversary!
Buckeye Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 For me, having it be the F-104 instead of the F-14 would be the letdown of a lifetime...but I know it would make many other happy. Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
Aginor Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Oh yeah! Starfighter.... <3 <3 <3 DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
mattebubben Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 i would actually prefer the 104 in many ways. It would be a great match to the 21. It was very widley used and would be a very interesting aircraft. And also since its a more simple design then the F-14 (seeing as the F-14 is a 2 seat with flexible wings) the F-104 could probably get here faster.
Zakatak Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 If making a competitor to the MiG-21 is the goal, I'd much rather the F-5E to the F-104.
mattebubben Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 the F-5E is my Favourite aswell so id love to see it in the game. Its probably my nr1 US built Jet-aircraft.
Revan Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Umm, I think that with all of the huge hints at the F-14 it will probably end up being the F-14 not the F-104 (which by the way, does not fit like any of the hints we have gotten so far). DCS: F-4E really needs to be a thing!!!!!! Aircraft: A-10C, Ka-50, UH-1H, MiG-21, F-15C, Su-27, MiG-29, A-10A, Su-25, Su-25T, TF-51
thawall Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 The F-14 would be insanely great! I hope for a variant with LTS pod, so that it can also be used for ground attack and lasing LMavs and GBUs for the Hornets ;-) So my preferences are: F-14 > F-104 > F-4 > F-5 1
mattebubben Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 For the aircraft i would most like to see. It would be Saab 37 Viggen, F-5E Tiger II,Mig 23/27, Saab 35 Draken, F-105 Thud. But of those it would be F-5 F-104 F-14 F-4.
Jester Darrak Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 If you try to fight a MiG21 with a Starfighter you can as well stay at home. The Starfighter is anything but a fighter, it's an Interceptor. Get up and on spot fast, bang a bomber and go home again. The Mig is made with dogfighting in mind. German Airforce first used the F-104 as a Fighter, Fighterbomber and CAS aircraft and that's why it's got the nickname Widow Maker. It's fast, but it's nowhere near agile. Not in a hundred years a match for the MiG, just a victim.
mattebubben Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 well like in any fight its just a matter of using ur strengths against weaknesses.
Why485 Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) As much as I love the F-104, it wouldn't be a fair fight against a MiG-21. The huge majority of Starfighters can't even carry a medium range radar missiles of any kind. Only the handful of Italian F-104Ss were cleared for Sparrows. F-104 would be even less "relevant" in DCS than the MiG-21 is. The F-5 is better as direct opposition to the MiG-21. Edited October 29, 2014 by Why485
kontiuka Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 The F-5e being called the Tiger II, in honour of which plane was it named?
Charly_Owl Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 We should make some kind of "name the airplane" quiz. That'd be fun. :) Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Chuck's Guides on Mudspike Chuck's Youtube Channel Chuck's Patreon
DocSigma Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Not in a hundred years a match for the MiG, just a victim. If i'm not mistaken, the 21 isn't a dogfighter as well but an interceptor like the 104. Great climb and roll rate but not really that agile. I think the two would be more closely matched than you think. Ryzen9 5800X3D, Gigabyte Aorus X570 Elite, 32Gb Gskill Trident DDR4 3600 CL16, Samsung 990 Pr0 1Tb Nvme Gen4, Evo860 1Tb 2.5 SSD and Team 1Tb 2.5 SSD, MSI Suprim X RTX4090 , Corsair h115i Platinum AIO, NZXT H710i case, Seasonic Focus 850W psu, Gigabyte Aorus AD27QHD Gsync 1ms IPS 2k monitor 144Mhz, Track ir4, VKB Gunfighter Ultimate w/extension, Virpil T50 CM3 Throttle, Saitek terrible pedals, RiftS
Paradox Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 An Italian F-104 with all its upgrades and bells and whistles is something that I would love to see actually, they made it a very capable multirole fighter. Same radar as the F-16C and everything.
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 If i'm not mistaken, the 21 isn't a dogfighter as well but an interceptor like the 104. Great climb and roll rate but not really that agile. I think the two would be more closely matched than you think. With weapons mounted, we're talking about a 5g limit in a turn. And, even clean, it bleeds speed very readily. It accelerates and climbs like a monster, but I wouldn't describe it as "nimble." Even still, isn't that the draw of combat flight sims? Having to utilize strategies that better fit your aircraft? Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up!
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