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Nearly all apps do it... (and yes I do know what I am talking about as supporting desktops / servers / applications is what I do..)

 

Reboots have been dramatically reduced in recent versions of Windows, but scratch installs almost always ask to reboot.. It is part of the application cleanup process after installation..

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I currently have seven different versions of DCS World installed. This is the first one that has asked for a reboot.

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I currently have seven different versions of DCS World installed. This is the first one that has asked for a reboot.

 

 

No reboot here.

 

2 updates one right after the other.

 

No probs.

 

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I currently have seven different versions of DCS World installed. This is the first one that has asked for a reboot.

 

I believe what you are saying, and maybe this is a DCS World aberration, I am just saying that across the board as far as Windows applications goes, this is standard procedure...

 

You have no idea how much time I sit and wait on PC's that are rebooting due to app installs on a daily basis..

 

And CATSEYE, that is correct as you are UPDATING, not clean installing..

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Nearly all apps do it... (and yes I do know what I am talking about as supporting desktops / servers / applications is what I do..)

 

Reboots have been dramatically reduced in recent versions of Windows, but scratch installs almost always ask to reboot.. It is part of the application cleanup process after installation..

 

As anyone who uses windows regularly knows, this is simply not true. It hasn't been true for a long time. Replace "Nearly all" with "very few", and "almost always" with "almost never".

 

Supporting desktops / servers / applications is my thing too.

 

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You have no idea how much time I sit and wait on PC's that are rebooting due to app installs on a daily basis..

Are you talking about legacy software running on obsolete versions of windows? With modern software, especially games, and on modern versions of windows, this is very rare.

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As anyone who uses windows regularly knows, this is simply not true. It hasn't been true for a long time. Replace "Nearly all" with "very few", and "almost always" with "almost never".

 

Supporting desktops / servers / applications is my thing too.

 

So the fact that THIS IS WHAT I DO EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE and that installing and supporting applications is what I do.. I guess I have no idea what I am talking about right? Apparently the multitude of reboots that are requested on a daily basis while I am installing applications must be a figment of my imagination?

 

Whatever, I will leave this to all of you "experts"

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Only thing I support is my local hockey team but I do play games for my whole live and never had one asking for a reboot. And I poured thousands of hours into plethora of titles over the years. And out of like 50 applications installed on my computer(s), only maybe 5 asked for reboot. And only the ones that required some services to run from the start or installed a driver or whatever. Like antivirus, hardware monitoring software, virtual drive etc...

 

Anyway, this must be surely new because I installed DCS on fresh system just last week and it haven't asked for reboot. I wonder why too. :)

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LOL.. Yeah so I guess the 5,000+ apps in use at my company (One of the largest health care companies in the US with more than 120,000 employees) Apparently all of our apps were written incorrectly and we are just doing it wrong..

 

Once again, whatever

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Burr Hold your horses, all together :)

 

No need to argue about if Windows needs to reboot or not in certain situations cause there simply is no simple answer unless you know each code and the specific situation of the PC. I also tell you this as a sysadmin across all OS.

 

The reason why windows has to reboot is made of of two reasons mainly, entries in registry which will only take effect when the registry is read upon booting and handling services installed or deinstalled. BOTH afaik is not the case with ED software, there are no vital registry entries if any but the licence code software management and there for sure is no DCS_SRV service yet that would need to be restarted etc...

 

So, knowing what causes reboots to be called let you do two things:

 

Deny it. Simple as that, if you know that no registry got changed you can go on as usual. If services need to be handled you can do this manually as well and void the need for a reboot.

Again, DCS has no services.

 

Second thing you can do: do the reboot, you got an SSD, it takes less time to reboot than it takes me to type this HAHA thank you God of Hardware for SSD's !!!

 

Did the Installer also reinstall DX9 and all those MS-Redistributables ?

 

That may have set the hook to ask for a reboot from the MS part of the software installation,

even if the same version has been over installed ( again and again... ).

 

 

Do you have ANY system optimiser Software installed that guards installations to be able to do a proper de-install even if the standard uninstall fails ? Also those can alter the start and end of installation processes.

 

 

Otherwise, I got no idea

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Only thing I support is my local hockey team but I do play games for my whole live and never had one asking for a reboot. And I poured thousands of hours into plethora of titles over the years. And out of like 50 applications installed on my computer(s), only maybe 5 asked for reboot. And only the ones that required some services to run from the start or installed a driver or whatever. Like antivirus, hardware monitoring software, virtual drive etc...

 

Anyway, this must be surely new because I installed DCS on fresh system just last week and it haven't asked for reboot. I wonder why too. :)

 

The need for a reboot depends on a few things. Either parts of the OS that are currently in use, have been changed by the installation (can be anything from drivers, services, or runtimes) or the developer put in the requirement for a reboot as cautionary measure to ensure a clean environment.

 

Or in a companies installation tool you enforce a reboot to ensure no processes running with elevated rights through bad installation chaining etc.

 

As DCS installs Visual C++ runtimes and DirectX 9 runtime (or updates it) may be ED developers took the precaution to do a reboot here.

 

I'm guessing of course, but it could be a reasonable explanation.

 

As for "old" applications, like up-to-date NX CAD or CATIA, or Manufacturing Software in use in most if not all industries, a reboot is pretty common, as the developers didn't change it the last 20 years.

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Dcs World second update?

 

I have just install second update for dcs World 1.2.11 main and beta version with updater exe!

it is about 100mb.

does anyone know about this? any changelog information?

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Nope, but the same here... Some last minute fix/addition, maybe?

 

Chizh, any info?

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You should be running 1.2.11.33921

 

Start Single Player and check your version number in the bottom right corner, if your on an older version update again sir.

 

There seems to have been a second update today which has caused a bit of confusion. If you updated earlier on today you will have to do it again!

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I never got the new update with the new su27 PFM

 

I'm using the non steam version and I never got any update today. I tried running the updater but still get nothing. Did the update only go out for the steam version?

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no you have to go into your list in the windows folder list of programs and run the updater.

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Deleting folder C:\Users\????\AppData\Local\Temp\DCS makes the updater run again, but it doesn't download anything, it just says that it has successfully updated to version 1.2.11 ...., but when I open the game it still says it's 1.2.10.

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The update is live, now. Go into the start menu / ED / DCS World / Update DCS World

 

DCS World check only once a day after updates!

 

Just ran the "Update DCS World" and it worked. Thanks!

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Yes, have a "little" update (a hotfix?) in the Open Beta version.

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;2228220']You should be running 1.2.11.33921

 

Start Single Player and check your version number in the bottom right corner, if your on an older version update again sir.

 

There seems to have been a second update today which has caused a bit of confusion. If you updated earlier on today you will have to do it again!

 

is there a changelog for 33921?

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I was having trouble with updating after 1.5 hours or so since update was out. I don't know if it was a coincidence or not but I set my computer clock few hours forward and it worked after that.

 

 

 

Thank you.. I set my clock to the next day.. the update started working.

 

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DCS non-steam: Use the DCS_Updater.exe in cmd to update to the openbeta. Guide: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=114030

 

Note that you may need to create a mirror of your DCS folder for it to work.

 

Steam versions of DCS can do this by going to:

Library - DCS World - Properties - betas

Select openbeta. No code required. Click OK and start the download.

See above if you watt to update, go to openbeta etc

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