Charly_Owl Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) I wanted to thank the whole Eagle Dynamics team personally for yet bringing another fantastic warbird to life. This one was certainly not easy (with most documentation being in a foreign tongue with technical data that is difficult to find) and you can feel the thousands of man-hours put into this module just by looking at the superb cockpit and that menacing skin riddled with rivets. The Kurfürst looks mean yet graceful, which is why I admire and fear this plane at the same time. The aircraft behaves in a very particular way that feels very real and just by looking at the number of times it tried to kill me on takeoff and landing I can claim without the shadow of a doubt that Yo-Yo gave us a robust and merciless flight model that will challenge even the mightiest virtual pilots. Takeoff and landing are not easy to master and I got that old feeling of marvel and wonder when I finally understand how the aircraft behaves and how to tame Her. This is what makes WWII warbirds special to me: if you treat them with respect and understand like they behave, you'll end up having a bloody good time just like I had with the Mustang and the Dora. Many people had their reservations regarding the capacity of ED to release WWII modules like the FW190 and the Bf.109, and now that the Spitfire and the P-47 are on the horizon it only makes me more excited to see communities grow around their favourite aircraft and take the fight online with the rest of us merry bunch of nutcases :pilotfly:. Also, we did a maiden flight for the 109 with a couple of fellow 71st squadmates. Here are some photos we took of the event. Edited December 4, 2014 by Charly_Owl Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Chuck's Guides on Mudspike Chuck's Youtube Channel Chuck's Patreon
dooom Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 well said. I said i finally felt completely at home in DCS as the introduction of the 109 brought me full circle back to my first love on an airframe. It will take the f18 to claw me away im afraid... ASUS Tuf Gaming Pro x570 / AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ 3.8 / XFX Radeon 6900 XT / 64 GB DDR4 3200 "This was not in the Manual I did not read", cried the Noob" - BMBM, WWIIOL
Anatoli-Kagari9 Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Yes, it is a remarkable add-on, and what is yet to come makes it all even more tempting! The p51d started this line of aircraft, the Dora was a great addition, but now this K4 is simply Superb! Flight Simulation is the Virtual Materialization of a Dream...
gavagai Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Yes, all three modules are works of art, especially the cockpits and flight models. ED goes the extra mile to maintain high standards.:yes: P-51D | Fw 190D-9 | Bf 109K-4 | Spitfire Mk IX | P-47D | WW2 assets pack | F-86 | Mig-15 | Mig-21 | Mirage 2000C | A-10C II | F-5E | F-16 | F/A-18 | Ka-50 | Combined Arms | FC3 | Nevada | Normandy | Straight of Hormuz | Syria
LcSummers Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) Yes, the Dora was great but the 109 is fantastic. Fantastic job ED. I cant wait for the other modules. They all will be fantastic. Thank you very much. Loving this bird PS: Cant get enough of your work, its an addiction at least for me. Now a dream has come true ands it was worth the wait. Edited December 4, 2014 by LcSummers
CaptJodan Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 In the rush for bug reports, first impressions, and general frustrations that can occur with a new release, it's often times hard to remember how much time went into the project. I have my issues, same as anyone else, but I think there can be no doubt in my mind that this is THE most accurate representation of the BF-109 on the sim market to date. I agree, the Dora was great, but somehow the 109 is better. Probably just a personal preference, but I suspect out of the three WWII fighters thus far, this plane will be my ride for quite some time (I'm still confounded by getting the most out of my P-51, and the Dora, while an excellent aircraft that I still will fly and enjoy when I do, just doesn't speak to me like the 109 does). ED did another great job, and I look forward to the further refinements they make on the aircraft. Definitely an aircraft worth the wait.
Merlin-27 Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 I agree with pretty much everything above. "Work of art" is a great way to describe this latest release. It feels very refined already. It's a joy to fly and the thing just begs you to get airborne. I do love the Mustang but it's hard to deny that ED seems to be stepping up their game with every new aircraft. Just take a peek at an F2 view with the canopy open and admire the detail for a minute. Amazing work. Makes me extra excited to see the Jug! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] [Dogs of War] WWII COMBAT SERVER | P-51D - FW190-D9 - Me109-K4 Visit Our Website & Forum to Get More Info & Team Speak Access
DB 605 Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 It's a sim dream come true, no less. THANK YOU ED TEAM! :notworthy::notworthy: And it's so beautiful... :wub: CPU: Intel Core i7-2600k @3.40GHz | Motherboard: Asus P8P67-M | Memory: Kingston 8GB DDR3 | OS W10 | GPU: Sapphire R9 290x 8GBDDR5 | Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster 24" | Devices: Oculus Rift, MS FFB 2 joystick, Saitek X 52 Pro throttle, Saitek Pro pedals, Gametrix Jetseat [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Geronimo989 Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 This is by far my favorite bird of ww2, and the module is really well done. I am hoping for many more ww2 planes in DCS.
JG53_Jaguar Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 I agree, this is a big dream come true...finally I get to fly my #1 WW2 warbird! From my point of view, DCS is on its way to become the only worthy successor to the original IL2 from Oleg :) DCS still has a long way to go but I believe it has the potential and it's moving in the right direction to be my #1 WW2 flight sim! Cheers!
ED Team NineLine Posted December 4, 2014 ED Team Posted December 4, 2014 I know I am biased and a total fanboy, but damn I love these WWII birds they are putting out... as a bonus, I've never learned so much in-depth stuff about these birds in any other sim, its a blast so far, cant wait for more... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
derelor Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 I know I am biased and a total fanboy, but damn I love these WWII birds they are putting out... as a bonus, I've never learned so much in-depth stuff about these birds in any other sim, its a blast so far, cant wait for more... +1 1338 - beyond leet ED Forum rules EN|DE|RU
Para_Bellum Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 I know I am biased and a total fanboy, but damn I love these WWII birds they are putting out... as a bonus, I've never learned so much in-depth stuff about these birds in any other sim, its a blast so far, cant wait for more... Indeed. :thumbup:
TwilightZone Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 I know I am biased and a total fanboy, but damn I love these WWII birds they are putting out... as a bonus, I've never learned so much in-depth stuff about these birds in any other sim, its a blast so far, cant wait for more... another quote :),i agree too SiThSpAwN 109-K4 is awesome so far!! what a great addition to DCS. looking forward to all the other WWll planes as well:thumbup: P-51, 190-D9, 109-K4, Spitfire MK IX, Normandy, and everything else:joystick: i7 4770K, 4.3ghz, 32gb ram, Windows-10 Pro, Z87 Exstreme4, Corsair 850w psu, Samsung Evo 1T SSD & 250 SSD, Titan-X 12gb OC, Asus ROG Swift 27"/1440p/144hz/1ms monitor, Trackir 5, TM Warthog & 10cm extension, Saitek TPM, MFG crosswind pedals
Flagrum Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 The weired thing with DCS aircraft is - for me at least - I like them even if ... I don't ... like ... them!? The Sabre, not my era, not my tech and I don't really like the looks ... but damn, she flies nice and I am having tons of fun with her! Same with the old warbirds. I am no propeller head (my airscrew has to be above me, not in front of me ...) and I am having a haaaard time learning the basics in the Fw190 and now also in the Bf109. They said, helos are not meant to fly ... but to kill you. Lol, those never sat in a WWII war plane! ;o) But again, by far not my era, by far not my tech (but I actually DO like the looks of them ... so ... MEAN ... :o). But "actually sitting in one" and it is a totally different thing. And this makes me appreciate way more and way better of everything related. For me, WWII always was grainy black&white footage with weired speaking people (nobody holds speeches nowadays anymore as "they" did back then ... whatever the reason for that is) and ancient technology. I didn't really expect the technological aspects of these birds to be so ... interesting. Yes, no digital circuits, no transistors, no ... anything. But boy, just because they used different stuff, it was not less advanced and usually goes way beyond my head. I actually love it. :o)
Highfox Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Yes, a big thanks from me too. Just managed to take my first flight with it, 2 take-offs 2 landings (slightly ugly) but back in one piece. It's nice that you can lock that tail wheel. Then got brave and tried a Split S and took some of the left wing off.. looks like you can't just chuck this one about.
Lizzard Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 yay ED really does an awesome job with the WW2 Birds..the feel..soooo real..no other modules come that close (I allways thought A2A refueling the SU-33 is the hardest Job in DCS..pfff..try to land the 109) My Specs: I don`t care..it is a Computer..a black one..
Pilum Posted December 5, 2014 Posted December 5, 2014 Also want to add my thanks and appreciation for the work ED is doing. I really like the look of the new Me109K4 and of course the other WW2 birds. In addition I want to add that the posts I do listing things that seem off in bug section are by no means a critique but merely ruminations and suggestion for making a great sim even better. One more thing: That the developers take the time to interact with us forum members here is great and something other flight sim developers could learn from. Keep up the good work and thanks ED! :thumbup: Old Crow ECM motto: Those who talk don't know and those who know don't talk........ Pilum aka Holtzauge My homepage: https://militaryaircraftperformance.com/
Rogue Trooper Posted December 6, 2014 Posted December 6, 2014 Superb work on the 109 ED! A pure joy to fly and my favorite WWII bird to date. A true fighter with superb turn rate.... just as it should be. HP G2 Reverb (Needs upgrading), Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate. set to OpenXR, but Open XR tool kit disabled. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), DLSS setting is quality at 1.0. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC... Everything needs upgrading in this system!. Vaicom user and what a superb freebie it is! Virpil Mongoose T50M3 base & Mongoose CM2 Grip (not set for dead stick), Virpil TCS collective with counterbalance kit (woof woof). Virpil Apache Grip (OMG). MFG pedals with damper upgrade. Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound... goodbye VRS.
Ala13_ManOWar Posted December 6, 2014 Posted December 6, 2014 +10 to all of you fellas, I have to agree with everything stated here!! A pleasure to fly, a joy to your eyes, a challenge for your skills... I'm one of the old WWII fans since ever and FINALLY this is it. All those things you read throughout years, stories and pilot's notes about all those aircraft came to life... you can feel it, you recognize every detail in there, you know what's happening and it matches the thing... I can't be more happy with all those stuff we are getting now and I can only await eagerly more of it :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:. Keep the good work on mates. S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice
rubblebeam Posted December 6, 2014 Posted December 6, 2014 I think RRG deserve some credit for this module, while everyone are patting ED on the back for the 109 remember this was RRGs baby. Their model, interior and exterior. I don't know how much of the flight model was completed before ED took over but we do know from the kickstarter updates that a lot of work was already done on this module by RRG. While ED do deserve some credit for finishing the product, RRG deserve some credit for the work already done. Well done RRG/ED for a fantastic module Good Grief
ED Team NineLine Posted December 6, 2014 ED Team Posted December 6, 2014 I think RRG deserve some credit for this module, while everyone are patting ED on the back for the 109 remember this was RRGs baby. Their model, interior and exterior. I don't know how much of the flight model was completed before ED took over but we do know from the kickstarter updates that a lot of work was already done on this module by RRG. While ED do deserve some credit for finishing the product, RRG deserve some credit for the work already done. Well done RRG/ED for a fantastic module Actually, the model was purchased from an outside builder I believe, including the cockpit, all updates and such were done by ED's internal team. The FM was by ED/Yo-Yo (I should know I helped collect data for him). Most of the major work was done by the ED team after RRG left... all that said... thanks for RRG for picking a K when a G-10 or something would have been easier to model and get data for :P Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Kurfürst Posted December 6, 2014 Posted December 6, 2014 Actually... the G-10 is even less documented than the K. http://www.kurfurst.org - The Messerschmitt Bf 109 Performance Resource Site Vezérünk a bátorság, Kísérőnk a szerencse! -Motto of the RHAF 101st 'Puma' Home Air Defense Fighter Regiment The Answer to the Ultimate Question of the K-4, the Universe, and Everything: Powerloading 550 HP / ton, 1593 having been made up to 31th March 1945, 314 K-4s were being operated in frontline service on 31 January 1945.
ED Team NineLine Posted December 6, 2014 ED Team Posted December 6, 2014 Actually... the G-10 is even less documented than the K. Not the things I came across in my searches... G came up much more than K... ;) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
rubblebeam Posted December 6, 2014 Posted December 6, 2014 Actually, the model was purchased from an outside builder I believe, including the cockpit, all updates and such were done by ED's internal team. The FM was by ED/Yo-Yo (I should know I helped collect data for him). Most of the major work was done by the ED team after RRG left... all that said... thanks for RRG for picking a K when a G-10 or something would have been easier to model and get data for :P Wasn't Psy06 part of the RRG team who created the cockpit? Or was paid by RRG to create the cockpit? You don't remember this thread at MM? Either way it was an RRG product until ED took over. Credit where credit is due Good Grief
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