SU-27 intercepts Orion Video

[jcbak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN8OoefnUPM#t=74

[ericoh]

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Edited January 29, 2015 by ericoh

[Falcon_S]

Some DCS experts in another forum are concluded it`s fake. :argue:

[wasserfall]

It's not fake

[Falcon_S]

It's not fake

 

Agree but some experts don`t. :)

[PFunk1606688187]

I don't think its fake, but there are things I can't answer that the doubters suggested.

[Pilotasso]

It's real. It just doesn't have PoAF's seal of approval because it was leaked. This video was all over the news here, and someone will pay for the leak that's for sure.

 

For those who haven't been watching the news, PoAf was the leading airforce for the fall 2014 Baltic air policing mission.

 

It followed a series of intercepts off the coasts of both Russia And Portugal involving F-16's Tu-95's and a plethora of Russian fighters and surveillance aircraft. A lone P-3 was sent to the Baltic in early November as a response to the VVS pair of Tu-95's that entered Lisbon international landing pattern with their transponders switched off in late October which was considered an hostile act. There was another incursion off the Portuguese coast just a few days earlier.

 

That P-3 was intercepted multiple times. Our pilots have a huge photo collection of Russian aircraft. :)

 

 

national news:

http://www.rtp.pt/noticias/index.php?article=799598&tm=8&layout=122&visual=61

Edited January 27, 2015 by Pilotasso

[firewings]

it's fake , pilot head movement is abnormal and similar on DCS SU-27 , see video from 0:35 to 0:55

 

[Pilotasso]

lol

[Yurgon]

What an incredibly beautiful aircraft.

 

Interesting how in the IR version it looked to me as if the Su-27 was breaking away with full burner but in the visible spectrum it looks like mil power.

 

If this is a fake, it's a damn well made one, looks mighty real to me. Definitely way beyond DCS level fake, even thought the DCS Su-27 already looks fantastic.

[aaron886]

Looks fake, but nicely done. Aliasing problems on the rendered sukhoi, unnaturally mechanical head movement of the pilot, IR signature of the Sukhoi's engines appearing and disappearing inexplicably...

[sobek]

Looks fake, but nicely done.

 

Looks mighty real to me.

 

Aliasing problems on the rendered sukhoi

 

A moiré pattern is not an indication that it was rendered. Spatial aliasing can happen perfectly well in normal movies of RL scenes.

 

Although i find it much more likely that this is an effect of bad video compression.

Edited January 28, 2015 by sobek

[Neon67]

this is fake, you can clearly see its a reptilian piloting the fake 3d plane

[winz]

I don't see what is weird on the pilots movements. He looks at the plane he's flying in close proximity, the quickly scan his instruments, then looks back on the plane, and repeats. What's weird on that? That he's doing it quickly?

[ericoh]

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Edited January 29, 2015 by ericoh

[wasserfall]

If you look at the thermal image of the Su27, you can see the structure as in this picture:

No fake if you ask me.

[rrohde]

What's more shocking is the fact that -- if this is real -- they're still not using R-77s these days... :)

[Kenan]

What that russian pilot did there in the video..I've seen it sooo many times before..instead of blasting that Orion out of the sky, he decided to get close and fly some formation. He was probably warned by the admin and perhaps even kicked out of server for fooling around.

[Kenan]

This is what actually happened..

[outlawal2]

I think it is fake as well... Can't put my finger on exactly why, but it doesn't look natural.. (and REALLY splitting hairs here, but not quite natural..)

 

Pretty cool that the state of DCS is at the point that we DO debate whether footage like this is real or not... And DCS is only going to get better moving forward...

 

Pretty sweet

[xxJohnxx]

Pretty cool that the state of DCS is at the point that we DO debate whether footage like this is real or not... And DCS is only going to get better moving forward...

 

I am not entirely sure if it is real or not (though looks quit real to me), but I am pretty sure that this isn't from DCS. If it is fake, it might be rendered some way else, but I am sure it is not from DCS.

 

EDIT: Also wondering how some conclude that the IR signature of the after-burning aircraft is wrong. At 2:01 the afterburner look like the hottest thing on the bird. Else is shown as not so hot or cold. As you would expect.

Edited January 28, 2015 by xxJohnxx

[rrohde]

This is what actually happened..

 

^^^ hilarious. :)

[Invader ZIM]

Doesn't look fake to me, few people who haven't seen stabilized high power thermal imaging systems in an aircraft would know where and when they would see thermal lens flare effects to fake it. It wouldn't take much of an increase in the Su-27's throttle to really spike the heat signature as seen from the FLIR camera on that plane.

 

Matches up nicely with the FLIR imager watching the Paris Airshow.

 

After some research I'm guessing the imaging system is an export downgraded version of the FLIR SAFIRE http://www.flir.com/uploadedFiles/CVS/Markets/Legacy/Documents/Sea%20Star%20SAFIRE%20II.pdf

 

Video demonstration of SAFIRE family matches image from P3:

 

Edited January 28, 2015 by Invader ZIM

[tomcatter]

This is what actually happened..

 

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[Jona33]

There's a couple of things, like the sun glinting off the Su-27's canopy so if this is a fake someone put a lot of work into it.