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In the early NVG's, (70's-80's) the Puma pilots would night fly with one pilot with NVG's and the other safety pilot without. There was depth of field problem with them. We tried them by walking down a track where we could see the trees, they looked about 20ft away, then you walked straight into it. Has that been fixed nowadays?

 

Short answer is no.

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Short answer is no.

 

Confirmed. Shortly before my last deployment before leaving the USAF, I went through combat skills training. One of the exercises was driving a humvee, at night, through a wooded course with current-gen NODs. The lack of depth perception had me overshooting more than a few turns...

 

Poor humvee had at least thirty pounds of palmetto bush wedged in the grill by the end of the night.

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Thanks for the rapid response Zeus, she’s lookin awesome...and pre-ordered :thumbup:

 

WAR great post, nvg bloom from strobes was a distraction, even IR, also image ghosting (as you move your fov from a bright light source) on older tubes.

 

In the early NVG's, (70's-80's) the Puma pilots would night fly with one pilot with NVG's and the other safety pilot without. There was depth of field problem with them. We tried them by walking down a track where we could see the trees, they looked about 20ft away, then you walked straight into it. Has that been fixed nowadays?

 

We were lucky enough to have Gen 3 goggles which had reasonable depth of field on the terrain and when the millilux levels were high, you could certainly fly very low level at high speeds. But of course they have their limitations like when the ambient light levels drop or on single points of light. Sometimes it was difficult to distinguish the tail light of the formation member ahead from a bright star! Poor NVG/FLIR performance however didn't stop us from flying low level attack sorties, it was just a damn sight scarier.

 

Another aspect which helped was the training, we had a simulator, well the US did initially until ours was built, so all pilots underwent a course before they began the EO workup in the jet.

 

I see Gen 4 googles now exist, though I'm not sure if these are in use on the Harrier now. Anyhow I guess this is going off topic for this thread and deserves it's own in due course.

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The rear nozzles now glow with raw engine power.

The glow is the product of the engine JPT (Jet Pipe Temperatture) as indicated by the FM.

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Wow. Really nice. :thumbup:

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NVGs

 

No. I don't, but fortunately ED knew how to deal with the problem. It is fixed.

 

I had a mod for the A-10C ages by Frenchy and tacca. I never did like the wide aspect of the ED nvgs. Any chance we can get a more circular realistic version?

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The rear nozzles now glow with raw engine power...
Wow! That's beautiful! Thanks! :)

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Thanks HYENA, that’s a more impressive way to test the NVG

WAR, that sound really scary, so must try it some time. I found night flying in game rally good if you can Chet the house light off, it is just moe immersive,

Just never tried it with NVGs

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IRL comparison of the glowing. Never knew that it did that :O

 

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=105_1467355039

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Amazing the video! I tried to found a video with a the glowing effect at daytime but nothing. Is this effect in real almost noticeable at night?

 

AV-8B Plus making an emergency landing.

 

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AV-8B Plus making an emergency landing.

 

 

It's the only one, and still very subtle compared with the pictures in DCS... the effect is way overdone in my opinion.

 

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It's the only one, and still very subtle compared with the pictures in DCS... the effect is way overdone in my opinion.

 

Regards!

 

Agree. It is a validation test for the glow. It will be fixed.

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I realise this is wip but I personally never saw the (GR7) hot nozzles glow in daylight, only a dusk/night. Does the AV8B engine make the hot nozzles glow in day light?

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I realise this is wip but I personally never saw the (GR7) hot nozzles glow in daylight, only a dusk/night. Does the AV8B engine make the hot nozzles glow in day light?

 

Never seen it either and I have been rather close to them at times.

 

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I realise this is wip but I personally never saw the (GR7) hot nozzles glow in daylight, only a dusk/night. Does the AV8B engine make the hot nozzles glow in day light?
Zeus67 linked a video above for reference, where it does IRL. Extreme situation, but you can see the nozzle glowing.

 

Edit: he also mentioned the effect will be tuned, as it is a bit too much in the testvideo.

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Zeus67 linked a video above for reference, where it does IRL. Extreme situation, but you can see the nozzle glowing.

 

Edit: he also mentioned the effect will be tuned, as it is a bit too much in the testvideo.

 

Thanks, I've seen that incident video before and it's the first time I noticed the hot nozzle glow. :music_whistling::lol:

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The pilot now has his AN/AVS-9 NVGs mounted on his helmet.

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The helmet visor and the NVG are mutually exclusive and you have to choose in the ME if you want to mount the AN/AVS-9 in the helmet before you start the flight.

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