Performance decrease since DCS World V1.5 release

[scotth6]

Hi,

 

I have noticed a definite decrease in performance since installing the release version of V1.5, via the updater from V1.2, compared to the beta version of DCS World V1.5.

 

I haven't been measuring FPS or anything, but the game was very smooth using the beta V1.5 version and now there are a lot of stutters. I've never really noticed stutters in any previous version of DCS World.

 

I have been playing the Mig-15 Airfield defence mission during the changeover period, and this is where I have really noticed the difference. Also the visuals in that mission seemed better in the beta V1.5. I had a really amazing flare/glare effect from the sun, and now in the release version I can stare straight at the sun because it just looks like a big white dot, and not very bright. The lighting just seemed heaps better in the beta version. This may be due to a setting in my menu, I'm not sure.

 

I'm not sure what has changed, but I much preferred playing the beta version.

 

I have also noticed the control settings will not detect my joystick while trying to change axis controls or buttons. I am using a Logitech 3d pro joystick. I do have a Thrustmaster warthog, but am yet to set that up (soon:)). I can use the drop down menu, and the controls work in game, but for some reason it is not picking up my joystick controls in the setup process.

 

One more thing was that today after playing the Mig-15 Airfield defence mission, and then the SU-25T cannon and rocket practice mission, DCS World crashed when I pressed exit to exit the game from the main menu. I think this is the first time this has happened.

 

Cheers,

[marcwoolery]

In version 1.5 I have noticed that the one thrilling feature (F3) flyby is now jaggy and not nearly as smooth as it was in prior version. I have flown in 5 different aircraft with more than a few graphic settings, and with view from below to take out the ground cover etc.

Ground cover looks a bit blurry on flyby also, it appears that it has some 3D layer of graphics capability that I am not taking advantage of. The smoothness quality is what has always set this game apart, especially back when it was a simple game, Su27 FLanker.

I have noticed that turning off the Mirrors (M) seems to matter.

Cockpits are great however !

 

I have also noticed You Tube training videos that look outstanding, and these are videos of the game. Is there a trick these guys are using to make the stuff look that good !?

 

I have seen a few posts for settings to help video quality and game play, but nothing has made it perfect.

 

I have a 1 year old DELL gaming computer, and a Sony 48" 1080p TV Monitor. I do not have the specs on the CPU or Graphics card at the moment.

 

Are there any suggestions out there to get back the FLYBY feature as it was before using v1.5 ?

 

Been playing this game since it was SU 27 FLANKER, and found it to be the best flying game then, and still love it, even though it has become incredibly complex. Wish there were more simple missions (for SU-27) in the can, I have started designing my own, but not really the same. Like christmas when you have to buy yourself a present. And TRAINING Modules ! I have been using YOU TUBE mostly, which is impressive.

[BIGNEWY]

what is your system spec?

[marcwoolery]

DELL XPS 8700 windows 7

8gig Ram

Intel Core i5 4460 3.2Ghz

GeForce GT720 Video card

 

Gaming system from Dell about 12 mos old.

[marcwoolery]

:pilotfly::pilotfly:

 

Are you asking for .LOG files ?

I attached

Logs.zip

[Buzzles]

Have you lot updated your gfx drivers recently?

[AtaliaA1]

Have you lot updated your gfx drivers recently?

 

 

Additionally how much GPU Memory does your Video card have? that ver. of laptop has upgradable memory all the way up to 32Gigs. The Video card has 1Gig and a 2Gig ver.

[FSKRipper]

In version 1.5 I have noticed that the one thrilling feature (F3) flyby is now jaggy and not nearly as smooth as it was in prior version. I have flown in 5 different aircraft with more than a few graphic settings, and with view from below to take out the ground cover etc.

 

You may try two options that helped me with the F3 view.

 

1. Make sure you are playing in real Fullscreen (press Alt+Return after you entered the 3d world).

 

2. Turn Vsync or adaptive sync on in your graphic drivers (60fps f.e.), be sure that it overwrites the application Settings (you have to be in Fullscreen).

 

This solved a lot of microstutters in 1.5.2 and 2.0 for me...

[SkateZilla]

In version 1.5 I have noticed that the one thrilling feature (F3) flyby is now jaggy and not nearly as smooth as it was in prior version. I have flown in 5 different aircraft with more than a few graphic settings, and with view from below to take out the ground cover etc.

Ground cover looks a bit blurry on flyby also, it appears that it has some 3D layer of graphics capability that I am not taking advantage of. The smoothness quality is what has always set this game apart, especially back when it was a simple game, Su27 FLanker.

I have noticed that turning off the Mirrors (M) seems to matter.

Cockpits are great however !

 

I have also noticed You Tube training videos that look outstanding, and these are videos of the game. Is there a trick these guys are using to make the stuff look that good !?

 

I have seen a few posts for settings to help video quality and game play, but nothing has made it perfect.

 

I have a 1 year old DELL gaming computer, and a Sony 48" 1080p TV Monitor. I do not have the specs on the CPU or Graphics card at the moment.

 

Are there any suggestions out there to get back the FLYBY feature as it was before using v1.5 ?

 

Been playing this game since it was SU 27 FLANKER, and found it to be the best flying game then, and still love it, even though it has become incredibly complex. Wish there were more simple missions (for SU-27) in the can, I have started designing my own, but not really the same. Like christmas when you have to buy yourself a present. And TRAINING Modules ! I have been using YOU TUBE mostly, which is impressive.

 

Blurry Externals are likely because Depth of Field Option is turned on.

[marcwoolery]

yes

[marcwoolery]

I see ref to FPS 60 all over these posts, but have seen no reference to that in the SETTINGS in DCS or in Windows ? Where is that reference coming from , how do you change it ?

I realize that its Frames Per Second.

[marcwoolery]

Ill try running the NVIDIA App on my desktop and see if for DCS.exe I can set those up.

[Rangi]

I see ref to FPS 60 all over these posts, but have seen no reference to that in the SETTINGS in DCS or in Windows ? Where is that reference coming from , how do you change it ?

I realize that its Frames Per Second.

 

Vsync locks your fps to the refresh rate of your monitor. 60Hz is the most common refresh rate of today's monitors. So setting vsync on will cap your fps to 60 in most cases.

[Wolf Rider]

Except.... some monitors are 59.4 Hz - this is where care has to be taken

[AtaliaA1]

Except.... some monitors are 59.4 Hz - this is where care has to be taken

 

Why does care have to be taken?

 

Monitor damage if set higher?

[Wolf Rider]

because it a tv screen, without the tv hardware stuff inside, masquerading as a computer monitor.

A proper computer monitor is easy to sync to - 59.4 is nigh on impossible... how is a .4 sync'd to?

 

 

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[/ame] Edited January 17, 2016 by Wolf Rider

[marcwoolery]

Tried playing with Video settings for the NVIDIA card, and game (VSYNC) etc. no luck

[marcwoolery]

And I have recommendations for turning OFF VSYNC in the game settings, and here you say leave on ? or Not ? Answers are never clear, and too many acronyms

[marcwoolery]

How are the You Tube recordings so damn clear !?

[Wolf Rider]

compare the difference... set the vga to Application Controlled and turn it on/ off ingame - see what the difference is. Force it on/ off in the VGA, see what difference it makes

[Darkenmass]

Not sure if this is the place to post this but i noticed that monitoring FPS and GPU usage i have sometimes conditions (example parked at airport) where my GPU pump 50/60% and FPS goes down at 50/45 ....don't think is normal, CPU is at 30% RAM at 5000 MB more or less (i have 8GB).

I can provide screenshot if needed.

Normally i see FPS drops from 60 when GPU goes up to 99% but not in this situations.

Another one is close to ground, FPS drops GPU stil at 50/60%...any idea ?

Do you think i am capped with RAM ?

Thanks :(

[dburne]

No I too see this in 1.5 as well, in certain missions and areas my gpu usage numbers are way down, resulting in very low framerates when they are. It seemed to happen to me in one of the Open Beta updates, I had one mission I was flying on a regular basis and really noticed the difference after one of the updates...

 

I do not necessarily see this same behavior , at least to as extreme in 2.0 Open Alpha...

[Throweight]

Fuzzy graphics

 

I'm finding that exterior terrain and atmospheric graphics are fuzzy and indistinct since installing 1.5. Inside cockpit resolutions and clarity and terrain features are good. Before the upgrade exterior terrain features were good, but amateurish in display. I will not buy another module until and unless the matter is resolved, and will certainly not buy into the NTTR map.

 

ASUS M51, I54440@3.1Gh, 8GB SDRAM, NVIDIA GTX760.

Edited January 19, 2016 by Throweight

[Rangi]

I'm finding that exterior terrain and atmospheric graphics are fuzzy and indistinct since installing 1.5. Inside cockpit resolutions and clarity and terrain features are good. Before the upgrade exterior terrain features were good, but amateurish in display. I will not buy another module until and unless the matter is resolved, and will certainly not buy into the NTTR map.

 

ASUS M51, I54440@3.1Gh, 8GB SDRAM, NVIDIA GTX760.

 

Welcome to the forums. Try turning off DOF, depth of field, in the options.

No need for the threats of not buying, we will try to help you if just ask polite questions.

[marcwoolery]

I'll check depth of field . . . It is only outside the aircraft where I am seeing some JAG and Studder.

Occassionally inside, but that may have been with all of the changes to my settings.

 

I did try the ACTUAL Full Screen with no diff. I do notice that if I set my Desktop to 1920 x 1080 and game to 1680 by 1050 it seems to work about the best, however I would not be so quick to change these things except for this issue I cannot resolve with new 1.50 studdering on FLY BY. (F3)