SkateZilla Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 8GB of DDR3 or DDR4 is $30-50+ depending on Speed. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
ET22RULZ Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) Hello! Recently I was having some terrible FPS and mouse stutter issues. I was having really low FPS and mouse look in cockpit and the outside view was practically unusuable. The simulation became unplayable. I was trying to modify the graphics settings, using the lowest, medium settings and trying evey intermediate option to try to find the cause of my problems. None of this seemed to help. After hours of messing around I've managed to find a solution: pressing alt+enter. It worked wonders! Evet at high graphics setting I've got really smooth gameplay and really smooth mouse look. However, after some time the problems seem to come back, not as bad as before and doing the alt+enter trick helps to bring things back into order. So my question for the devs is this: could you look deeper into this? Maybe it will solve problems that many us users are having from what I cam see. It seems funny that such a simple thing can do such an improvement. My PC specs are: Windows 10, AMD FX-4170 4,2 GHz, GF GTX-660 (364.51 drivers), 8 GB RAM, HDD, I'm playing in full screen @ 1280x1024 resolution. Have a nice day! Edited April 2, 2016 by ET22RULZ change of alt+tab to alt+enter [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Theskyline35 Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 For sure there is an issue with shadows, going from flat only to low was a terribly bad idea, the game stutters non-stop... and somewhat this is linked with the RAM, weird Are devs working on a fix ? We are in this situation for many of us for months... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My Youtube Channel Ryzen 2600 -- GTX980 4Go -- 16Go RAM 3200Mhz -- TM Warthog + Rudder Pedals -- HomeMade trackIR
ET22RULZ Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 No joy here with alt+tab :( I'm terribly sorry, in my previous post I meant alt+enter. Sorry for the confusion. Hope maybe this will help you. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
droopy114 Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 I'm terribly sorry, in my previous post I meant alt+enter. Sorry for the confusion. Hope maybe this will help you. Yep it's a know bug, currently when you start DCS World, it's displayed in full screen borderless mode, whatever the setting you choose in option tab. The only way to get rid of that is to press left alt+enter to be in true full screen mode. Gameplay is smoother with this trick, in conjunction with BOTH shadows options set to flat and flat only....even to low, it's a stutter fest.
Theskyline35 Posted April 3, 2016 Posted April 3, 2016 Yep Shadows have to be set flat only... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My Youtube Channel Ryzen 2600 -- GTX980 4Go -- 16Go RAM 3200Mhz -- TM Warthog + Rudder Pedals -- HomeMade trackIR
Divot Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 This fixed it! I'm back to 60 FPS. Thanks Mustang :) I must add though for anyone experiencing issues with the Visibility Range values in 1.5.3, I was able to go from 30 FPS to around 40-45 FPS by upgrading to NVIDIA Driver 361.91. I suggest upgrading display drivers to the most recent one first, and then only using 1.5.2 Visibility Range settings if you still experience stutters. Your performance increase due to drivers might vary, so IMO it's a trade-off between eye-candy (using 1.5.3 settings) and smoother frame-rates (1.5.2 settings). Hi MaverickET, I'm running the same laptop as you - do you still have playable settings? If so, I'd appreciate knowing how you're managing now with the current patches, as well as a copy of your settings, if possible? I'm currently running around 12-20 FPS once I get near any ground targets ... :( Any help appreciated. - Divot - 62nd Fighting Falcons Queensland, Australia http://www.62ndfightingfalcons.com/ ASUS G75VW: CPU: Intel i7-3610QM 2.3GHz | RAM: 16GB DDR3-1600 | GFX: GTX670M 3GB | SSD: 256GB | HDD: 1TB 2.5"
MaverickET Posted April 8, 2016 Posted April 8, 2016 Hi MaverickET, I'm running the same laptop as you - do you still have playable settings? If so, I'd appreciate knowing how you're managing now with the current patches, as well as a copy of your settings, if possible? I'm currently running around 12-20 FPS once I get near any ground targets ... :( Any help appreciated. - Divot - Hi Divot, I still have playable settings although I experience stutters every now and then in multiplayer. The screenshot attachment contains the current settings I'm running. I hope this helps, if it doesn't then private message me, we can further compare settings there :) Also, I'm running Mustang's 1.5.2 Visibility Settings: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2685487&postcount=36 Along with his No Tree-Shadows Fix: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2495081&postcount=7 383rd. Fighter Squadron: https://383fs.wordpress.com/ ASUS G75VW: CPU: Intel i7-3610QM | RAM: 16GB DDR3-1600 | GFX: GTX670m | SSD: Corsair Neutron GTX 120GB | HDD: WD Black 750GB 2.5"
Vitormouraa Posted April 8, 2016 Posted April 8, 2016 No tree shadow and 1.5.2 visibility help A LOT! SplashOneGaming Discord https://splashonegaming.com
Divot Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 Hi Divot, I still have playable settings although I experience stutters every now and then in multiplayer. The screenshot attachment contains the current settings I'm running. I hope this helps, if it doesn't then private message me, we can further compare settings there :) Also, I'm running Mustang's 1.5.2 Visibility Settings: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2685487&postcount=36 Along with his No Tree-Shadows Fix: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2495081&postcount=7 Hi Maverick, Those settings seem to have worked - or at least made it better than it was! :thumbup: I'm not sure if the recent update/patch changed anything, either. The only difference I made was to turn HDR off, but that just seems to be a personal preference as far as I can tell. Thanks again for your your assistance, Divot 62nd Fighting Falcons Queensland, Australia http://www.62ndfightingfalcons.com/ ASUS G75VW: CPU: Intel i7-3610QM 2.3GHz | RAM: 16GB DDR3-1600 | GFX: GTX670M 3GB | SSD: 256GB | HDD: 1TB 2.5"
Vitormouraa Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 I need to ask a question to Mustang, is it possible to make a mod to remove the tree shadow around the cities? your mod helps A LOT, but as you said, it doesn't remove shadows around the cities. SplashOneGaming Discord https://splashonegaming.com
72westy Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 Hi Maverick, Those settings seem to have worked - or at least made it better than it was! :thumbup: I'm not sure if the recent update/patch changed anything, either. The only difference I made was to turn HDR off, but that just seems to be a personal preference as far as I can tell. Thanks again for your your assistance, Divot May help if you move onto a desktop as opposed to a notebook PC. System 1: Windows 10 Pro 22H2 Build 19045.5198 - Core i7 3770K/Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3 (BIOS F-10)/32GB G-Skill Trident X DDR3 CL7-8-8-24/Asus RTX 2070 OC 8GB - drivers 551.61/LG Blue Ray DL Burner/1TB Crucial MX 500 SSD/(x2)1TBMushkinRAWSSDs/2TB PNY CS900 SSD/Corsair RM750w PSU/Rosewill Mid Challenger Tower/34" LG LED Ultrawide 2560x1080p/Saitek X56 HOTAS/TrackIR 5 Pro/Thermaltake Tt esports Commander Gear Combo/Oculus Quest 2/TM 2xMFD Cougar/InateckPCIeUSB3.2KU5211-R System 2: Windows 11 Home 24H2 26100.4652 - MSI Codex Series R2 B14NUC7-095US - i7 14700F/MSI Pro B760 VC Wifi II/32GB DDR5 5600mhz RAM/RTX 4060 8GB/2TB MSI M482/4TB CT4000P3PSSD8 SSD/4TB SPCC SSD/Kingspec 4TB SSD/650w Gold PSU
Divot Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 May help if you move onto a desktop as opposed to a notebook PC. Check this link out and then tell me again if it's a "notebook PC" ASUS G75VW Specs 62nd Fighting Falcons Queensland, Australia http://www.62ndfightingfalcons.com/ ASUS G75VW: CPU: Intel i7-3610QM 2.3GHz | RAM: 16GB DDR3-1600 | GFX: GTX670M 3GB | SSD: 256GB | HDD: 1TB 2.5"
droopy114 Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Check this link out and then tell me again if it's a "notebook PC" ASUS G75VW Specs Have a look at this thread, very interesting: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=157374 Don't know if your CPU have some kind of turbo boost or something like that, but the more ghz, the more FPS. For sure the culprit.
SkateZilla Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Have a look at this thread, very interesting: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=157374 Don't know if your CPU have some kind of turbo boost or something like that, but the more ghz, the more FPS. For sure the culprit. higher CPU Frequency = higher single thread performance = higher DirectX 11 Draw Calls Processed by DX11 API = Smoother and Higher FPS in the complex areas of the maps. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
KLR Rico Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 Check this link out and then tell me again if it's a "notebook PC" ASUS G75VW Specs OK, a "Gaming notebook PC" :smilewink: An average gaming GPU is like 4x more powerful than that mobile GPU, and a high end card is more like 8x. Still, DCS *should* be playable even on low settings. I have a laptop with similar specs and I had no problem playing DCSW 1.0.X on low/medium settings. i5-4670K@4.5GHz / 16 GB RAM / SSD / GTX1080 Rift CV1 / G-seat / modded FFB HOTAS
Hadwell Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) higher CPU Frequency = higher single thread performance = higher DirectX 11 Draw Calls Processed by DX11 API = Smoother and Higher FPS in the complex areas of the maps. higher CPU frequency is not the only indication of single-threaded performance, also instructions per clock... AKA IPC... Edited April 12, 2016 by Hadwell My youtube channel Remember: the fun is in the fight, not the kill, so say NO! to the AIM-120. System specs:ROG Maximus XI Hero, Intel I9 9900K, 32GB 3200MHz ram, EVGA 1080ti FTW3, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVME, 27" Samsung SA350 1080p, 27" BenQ GW2765HT 1440p, ASUS ROG PG278Q 1440p G-SYNC Controls: Saitekt rudder pedals,Virpil MongoosT50 throttle, warBRD base, CM2 stick, TrackIR 5+pro clip, WMR VR headset. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
heroe Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 Hi Maverick, Those settings seem to have worked - or at least made it better than it was! :thumbup: I'm not sure if the recent update/patch changed anything, either. The only difference I made was to turn HDR off, but that just seems to be a personal preference as far as I can tell. Thanks again for your your assistance, Divot I wonder when he got the update to stop the performance as it was before? :(
Sporg Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) higher CPU Frequency = higher single thread performance = higher DirectX 11 Draw Calls Processed by DX11 API = Smoother and Higher FPS in the complex areas of the maps. higher CPU frequency is not the only indication of single-threaded performance, also instructions per clock... AKA IPC... Hadwell, you could look in the hardware section of the forum. There's a quite thorough test of DCS 1.5.2 on different hardware: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=157374 There's a test of DCS with different CPU's at 4GHz: A test on DCS performance related to CPU frequency was also made: Finally there's also an interesting test of DCS performance depending on number of cores: DCS actually scales a bit up to 4 cores. Edited April 14, 2016 by Sporg System specs: Gigabyte Aorus Master, i7 9700K@std, GTX 1080TI OC, 32 GB 3000 MHz RAM, NVMe M.2 SSD, Oculus Quest VR (2x1600x1440) Warthog HOTAS w/150mm extension, Slaw pedals, Gametrix Jetseat, TrackIR for monitor use
SkateZilla Posted April 13, 2016 Posted April 13, 2016 ^ I'm aware of all those charts. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Sporg Posted April 14, 2016 Posted April 14, 2016 ^ I'm aware of all those charts. I was sure you were. :) My reply was mostly for clarification for others that might not be. :) System specs: Gigabyte Aorus Master, i7 9700K@std, GTX 1080TI OC, 32 GB 3000 MHz RAM, NVMe M.2 SSD, Oculus Quest VR (2x1600x1440) Warthog HOTAS w/150mm extension, Slaw pedals, Gametrix Jetseat, TrackIR for monitor use
Wolf Rider Posted April 15, 2016 Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) Check this link out and then tell me again if it's a "notebook PC" ASUS G75VW Specs the Intel 77 chipset wasn't stable higher CPU frequency is not the only indication of single-threaded performance, also instructions per clock... AKA IPC... Which why it is always important to stress test (with a known good product for such) that the OC is in fact stable Just cranking up the settings and heading off with the hair on fire... etc, etc, etc (the rave is known) Edited April 15, 2016 by Wolf Rider City Hall is easier to fight, than a boys' club - an observation :P "Resort is had to ridicule only when reason is against us." - Jefferson "Give a group of potheads a bunch of weed and nothing to smoke out of, and they'll quickly turn into engineers... its simply amazing." EVGA X99 FTW, EVGA GTX980Ti FTW, i7 5930K, 16Gb Corsair Dominator 2666Hz, Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit, Intel 520 SSD x 2, Samsung PX2370 monitor and all the other toys - "I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar"
Divot Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 I wonder when he got the update to stop the performance as it was before? :( It was the 2nd to last 1.5.3 update that did it in for me, as opposed to 1.5.2 , which was perfectly playable. Initial tests based on MaverickET's settings show a performance improvement in single player (with some stutters/pauses), but I'm testing it today in LAN multiplayer - fingers crossed! 62nd Fighting Falcons Queensland, Australia http://www.62ndfightingfalcons.com/ ASUS G75VW: CPU: Intel i7-3610QM 2.3GHz | RAM: 16GB DDR3-1600 | GFX: GTX670M 3GB | SSD: 256GB | HDD: 1TB 2.5"
Wolf Rider Posted April 20, 2016 Posted April 20, 2016 ^^^^ I believe Maverick runs an ATI VGA City Hall is easier to fight, than a boys' club - an observation :P "Resort is had to ridicule only when reason is against us." - Jefferson "Give a group of potheads a bunch of weed and nothing to smoke out of, and they'll quickly turn into engineers... its simply amazing." EVGA X99 FTW, EVGA GTX980Ti FTW, i7 5930K, 16Gb Corsair Dominator 2666Hz, Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit, Intel 520 SSD x 2, Samsung PX2370 monitor and all the other toys - "I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar"
SkateZilla Posted April 20, 2016 Posted April 20, 2016 ATi has been long dead, none of ATi's GPU's are DX11 Compatible. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
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