Operation "Blue Flag" - 24/7 PvP Campaign - ROUND 6

[StandingCow]

ED is working on the netcode still, so it is coming.

 

I strongly disagree with the idea that they need to take lives away. A life counter makes it so your plane actually means something.

[Fishnuts]

Please replace Blue's F-4s with something more capable like an F-16. F-4s were never meant to fight A2A... especially against Fulcrums. I love Blue Flag, but this is a glaring issue. Other than that, thank you guys (once again) for all the effort put into this venture!

[OldE24]

Please replace Blue's F-4s with something more capable like an F-16. F-4s were never meant to fight A2A... especially against Fulcrums. I love Blue Flag, but this is a glaring issue. Other than that, thank you guys (once again) for all the effort put into this venture!

 

.............:megalol:

[StandingCow]

Please replace Blue's F-4s with something more capable like an F-16. F-4s were never meant to fight A2A... especially against Fulcrums. I love Blue Flag, but this is a glaring issue. Other than that, thank you guys (once again) for all the effort put into this venture!

 

Actually things brings up a good point for both sides.... what do you all think about the speed with which one team or the other is able to take airfields? Especially when the other team isn't online to fight? Blue pushed red almost all the way to their airfield in about one day, and no doubt red will push back, but it all seems too fast and easy.

 

Why not give the AI on both sides much more capable fighters? Give blue the F-16s and give red an equally capable fighter. That may slow progress down on both sides.

 

thoughts?

[Frostie]

Actually things brings up a good point for both sides.... what do you all think about the speed with which one team or the other is able to take airfields? Especially when the other team isn't online to fight? Blue pushed red almost all the way to their airfield in about one day, and no doubt red will push back, but it all seems too fast and easy.

 

Why not give the AI on both sides much more capable fighters? Give blue the F-16s and give red an equally capable fighter. That may slow progress down on both sides.

 

thoughts?

 

Perhaps adding some Tors and more units. At the moment just 1 Su25T can clear an airbase in about 10 mins.

[StandingCow]

Perhaps adding some Tors and more units. At the moment just 1 Su25T can clear an airbase in about 10 mins.

 

That could help as well.... I just think things move too quickly, taking an airbase should be a big achievement imho.

[Darkwolf]

A system scaling airdefense to player count should be considered. :)

[OperatorJack]

If the intention is to have Blue Flag be asymmetrically balanced, then why not give RED better Air Defence assets seeing as BLUE has the more capable aircraft?

[StandingCow]

A system scaling airdefense to player count should be considered. :)

 

That would be pretty cool, wonder if that's possible.

[Darkwolf]

Should be possible technically. But after that, that still a certain amount of workload falling on scripters shoulder, + all the balancing to test... so we must understand it can't happen in a day :)

[QuiGon]

Please replace Blue's F-4s with something more capable like an F-16. F-4s were never meant to fight A2A... especially against Fulcrums. I love Blue Flag, but this is a glaring issue. Other than that, thank you guys (once again) for all the effort put into this venture!

 

Uhm what? Fighting A2A was the PRIMARY purpose of the F-4.

 

But yeah, they are a bit outdated for this modern BlueFlag round. They're fine in the 80s BlueFlag but not here, so I would say give blue a fighter that is more up to date for this round like the MiG-29 on red side (e.g. F-16, F/A-18, F-14).

Edited May 21, 2016 by QuiGon

[Darkwolf]

They defi itively needs serious ai such f14 and foxbat

[SixthFall]

How exactly does the mission work? I want to join the action with the mirage, but it's tough if I can't use the radio and there aren't any nav points. how do I know what's going on and where, and what the current objectives are?

[Fishnuts]

Uhm what? Fighting A2A was the PRIMARY purpose of the F-4.

 

You're right, I should been more specific. The F-4 is a huge bird and relied heavily on its speed and radar. In a turning fight against such a nimble like the 29, it's s toast. The original F-4 didn't even have cannons since it was so reliant on the electronic warfare (soon realized mistake). It carries heavy payloads quickly and can intercept, but it's no match for a more modern 29 or 27.

 

I guess I just don't see the logic of having F-4s and not something more evenly matched.

[OldE24]

How exactly does the mission work? I want to join the action with the mirage, but it's tough if I can't use the radio and there aren't any nav points. how do I know what's going on and where, and what the current objectives are?

 

http://gadget-buddyspike.rhcloud.com/

 

.....F10 and the ruler is your friend, you think this is bad back in IL2 wings of war there was no map markers you had to do it all on your own.

 

Use the radio pak intel options.

 

read the PDF..

 

 

PS.. What about the blue JTAC being move able and red's not? What's up with this???

Edited May 21, 2016 by OldE24

[Fishnuts]

How exactly does the mission work? I want to join the action with the mirage, but it's tough if I can't use the radio and there aren't any nav points. how do I know what's going on and where, and what the current objectives are?

 

Teamspeak, mate. It's essential for success in any sortie in Blue Flag. You'll usually have a GCI acting as a controller and can vector you as needed.

[viperdogsnake]

RED players, get on the Buddyspike forum before the round kicks off to get a strategy together.

[roccoo]

You're right, I should been more specific. The F-4 is a huge bird and relied heavily on its speed and radar. In a turning fight against such a nimble like the 29, it's s toast. The original F-4 didn't even have cannons since it was so reliant on the electronic warfare (soon realized mistake). It carries heavy payloads quickly and can intercept, but it's no match for a more modern 29 or 27.

 

I guess I just don't see the logic of having F-4s and not something more evenly matched.

If you look at the actual mig29a vs f-4 encounters on the server, it's usually 50/50%...

Edited May 21, 2016 by roccoo

[NaCH]

And started!

 

 

 

 

Red, defend the Blue "join slow" hordes!!!!

[OldE24]

And started!

 

 

 

 

Red, defend the Blue "join slow" hordes!!!!

 

GG, not even worth it.

[*Rage*]

Its absolutely worth it! Target rich environment:)

 

Can we stop with the negative posts? The buddy spike do an awesome service for the community. If you dont like it there are other places to fly.

[NaCH]

Lol OldE for your amusement

 

 

[Sweep]

GG, not even worth it.

 

Try 8 versus 50 and then complain! :D

 

Its absolutely worth it! Target rich environment:)

 

Can we stop with the negative posts? The buddy spike do an awesome service for the community. If you dont like it there are other places to fly.

 

 

:thumbup::thumbup:

[OldE24]

Its absolutely worth it! Target rich environment:)

 

Can we stop with the negative posts? The buddy spike do an awesome service for the community. If you dont like it there are other places to fly.

 

As mainly a chopper pilot in blue flag because of my ping my statement is about correct.

[gregzagk]

I am start thinking collecting these "balance" posts and post them everytime a round ends along with the charts :D

 

Greg