Operation "Blue Flag" - 24/7 PvP Campaign - ROUND 8

[RAZBAM_ELMO]

No worries guys we will have a meeting soon and decide.

 

I think this issue should be solved by the beginning of next rounds testing.

 

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[Ciribob]

In recent streams or even in the global chat on the server I saw many people stating that their SR doesn't work properly. If we just get half of the missing people on comms we would actually do way better because not all of them are noobs/nuggets. Just a little lazy for comms and/or installing 3rd party programms.

 

If you do ever see anyone struggling or say it's not working, please ask them to post here so I can help: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=169387&page=49 :)

 

99% of the time, they've got a very old Export file in Saved games/DCS/Scripts from an old DCS install so ask them to just delete it and then run the installer again which should solve it as it'll recreate a new clean one.

 

Questions to all

 

Was SRS worth it for this round?

 

Should it be in future rounds. If Yes, should it be the primary tool over TS with TS just used for chat / Establishing Comms / Troubleshooting?

 

What more Documentation / Videos would help people get on it or used to it?

 

You can say No the the first two but I'd prefer if it was a yes!

Edited August 10, 2016 by Ciribob

[microvax]

No worries guys we will have a meeting soon and decide.

 

 

+1

 

I dont think the disturbances I experienced this round can even be solved by you Greg. :DD

 

Bluefor biggest enemy and bluefor biggest ally: bluefor :megalol:

[kobeshow]

Ciribob, this is a no brainer, absolutely YES.

[microvax]

If you do ever see anyone struggling or say it's not working, please ask them to post here so I can help: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=169387&page=49 :)

 

99% of the time, they've got a very old Export file in Saved games/DCS/Scripts from an old DCS install so ask them to just delete it and then run the installer again which should solve it as it'll recreate a new clean one.

 

Three Questions to all

 

Was SRS worth it for this round?

 

Should it be in future rounds. If Yes, should it be the primary tool over TS with TS just used for chat / Establishing Comms / Troubleshooting?

 

What more Documentation / Videos would help people get on it or used to it?

 

You can say No the the first two but I'd prefer if it was a yes! :P

 

Simple radio is great but there is one problem.

You dont know who is on a frequency and due to the fact that the amount of people who is really disciplined is low, you sometimes didnt know who is on which freq an who is not. With TS you know who can be reached by it by a look at the nicks in the channel.

If there was a SRS player/frequency table and the issue where audio gets distorted if you receive on two channels at a time is resolved I think SRS has the potential to replace TS.

 

We had some great coordinated flights in the testing phase and then with the round start things got messy and usage kinda did go back. At least on bluefor.

 

tl;dr SRS is a pleasure to use with a coordinated group and a nightmare with the random mix of players.

 

Only bug from my side is audio getting distorted if you receive on two channels due to the fact that it seems to switch between the radios really fast and is not putting out audio from both radios at the same time.

 

 

Edit: Again not a SRS problem on its own, but I think player/freq table could halp a lot.

[Falcon_S]

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Questions to all

 

Was SRS worth it for this round?

 

Should it be in future rounds. If Yes, should it be the primary tool over TS with TS just used for chat / Establishing Comms / Troubleshooting?

 

What more Documentation / Videos would help people get on it or used to it?...

 

SRS is great addition for DCS and YES - it worth now and in future on every event and every day flights.

 

My problem is my low-end PC and SR Overlay kill my FPS (...to much) - around 7-10. I hope that i will "buy at least 30+ FPS" soon ;)

[Enduro14]

Simple radio all the way! Team speak sure coordinate pre round strategy and sort out the simple radio freqs. But honestly you don't need team speak for that. Team speak is a teenage chatter box that detracts from objectives being accomplished.

[microvax]

Of course the S530D.. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=156925&highlight=s530&page=305

 

m9 you linked a page in a thread where the super530 isnt even mentioned. No Idea whats your problem still.

[roccoo]

Server offline!:(

[kobeshow]

Simple radio is great but there is one problem.

You dont know who is on a frequency and due to the fact that the amount of people who is really disciplined is low, you sometimes didnt know who is on which freq an who is not. With TS you know who can be reached by it by a look at the nicks in the channel.

If there was a SRS player/frequency table and the issue where audio gets distorted if you receive on two channels at a time is resolved I think SRS has the potential to replace TS.

 

We had some great coordinated flights in the testing phase and then with the round start things got messy and usage kinda did go back. At least on bluefor.

 

tl;dr SRS is a pleasure to use with a coordinated group and a nightmare with the random mix of players.

 

Only bug from my side is audio getting distorted if you receive on two channels due to the fact that it seems to switch between the radios really fast and is not putting out audio from both radios at the same time.

 

 

Edit: Again not a SRS problem on its own, but I think player/freq table could halp a lot.

 

Yeah probably something like a list of standart frequencies for Blue/Red to go to when they join the server and coordinate a bit and then get on their own frequencies in the flight packages ... if only we had something like that https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LYS-K2EBGBZ1RjD0UGUdOkAXJBGw3mmRQZ2cSsdbJao/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

[microvax]

Yeah probably something like a list of standart frequencies for Blue/Red to go to when they join the server and coordinate a bit and then get on their own frequencies in the flight packages ... if only we had something like that https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LYS-K2EBGBZ1RjD0UGUdOkAXJBGw3mmRQZ2cSsdbJao/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

 

I mean live who is on what frequency, it gets to time consuming to hail people on 264, 254 and TS just to notice they arent anywhere even if they are marked as using srs.

Its simply annoying that you cant tell if somebody isnt listening, not on that freq or not even there anymore.

 

And if you already have a bunch of single ships running around you kinda have to manage them all on one of the three GCI channels...

 

 

But thanks for not reading at all what I wrote happy to explain it again. :megalol:

[gregzagk]

Server offline!:(

 

Up again, the auto restarter was stuck.

 

Greg

[microvax]

Up again, the auto restarter was stuck.

 

Greg

 

thx and sochi and sukhumi are closed again although they were 20% before restart....

[Nirvi]

Was SRS worth it for this round?

 

Should it be in future rounds. If Yes, should it be the primary tool over TS with TS just used for chat / Establishing Comms / Troubleshooting?

 

Absolutely, SRS is a real gamechanger.

For future rounds I will always use SRS only for multiplayer, and I hope more and more players will do the same.

Also looking forward to use SRS in a round of Case Blue.

[Etherlight]

Generally I may have used SRS about 5% of the time and at least in REDfor whenever I played all the coordination happened in Teamspeak without any problems. I would even say that that's how most of our flexibility of reacting to the situations evolving happened. The quick switching of team focus and efforts between PAK 6 and PAK 4 for example was mostly done by decision as a group in the main TS channel. As long as people were a little disciplined it didn't even overload the comms at all. I mostly used SRS when I was in a 2-man flight with a specific goal that required a lot of communication but that rarely happens or matters. So I strongly urge the continuation of TS as the main tool of comms at least on REDfor, since it works very well for us. Also the fact that you immediately see who is on comms is helpful. SRS can be nice for in-flight stuff, but that can also easily be replaced by whisperlists, that's what they're for. ^^

[kobeshow]

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I would have to respectfully disagree.

First of all in my opinion com discipline is one of the things I would like Redfor to put more of an emphasis on, when I read your post it is like we have been playing different campaigns (;

 

Up to a certain number of players one channel is fine, but as soon as you start forming flights and assigning tasks to people you CAN'T all be in one channel without com clutter, it is impossible by default. If you rarely join up in a 2 man flight and find that it doesn't matter, that is fine, but for me and many others it is the other way around: I like to fly in a flight of at least 2, preferably 4, and I like to know that there are strikers/transport that I need to cover or help attack a FARP/Base which is already covered by CAP.

This is achievable with TS only of course, but it didn't work in the past, that's why SRS was introduced in the first place.

I know you like to just fly around casually and value the social aspect of TS, but you can have a similar expirience in a smaller flight package, and still get all the tactical info from GCI with SRS, without the clutter !

Edited August 10, 2016 by kobeshow

[T_A]

Don`t wanna jinx anything , but way to go blue guys this morning for taking the coast.

I actually considered taking the day off today to help recover.

[amazingme]

Check this link

 

m9 you linked a page in a thread where the super530 isnt even mentioned. No Idea whats your problem still.

Check this post pls: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2866283#post2866283 Ring any bells? :)

[BodyOrgan]

I mean live who is on what frequency, it gets to time consuming to hail people on 264, 254 and TS just to notice they arent anywhere even if they are marked as using srs.

Its simply annoying that you cant tell if somebody isnt listening, not on that freq or not even there anymore.

 

And if you already have a bunch of single ships running around you kinda have to manage them all on one of the three GCI channels...

 

 

But thanks for not reading at all what I wrote happy to explain it again. :megalol:

I interpreted it the same way he did.

[Panhead]

I have a serious question and it isn't trolling what so ever...why does it seem like blue has just quit? Once we took Tblisi and the surrounding airfields it seems like the blue side just stopped showing up. It could just be a lull but maybe someone could answer.

 

RE: Yesterday - After several minutes of being denied entry over a period of hours due to server pop, I gave up. At the time, I think there were only the central bases left on Blue.

 

I'm an interdiction/helo oriented pilot, and it seemed to me - based on TS chatter, focus was on sweeps/cap. If I would have been able to get in, I would have possibly taken the slot an F15/M2K pilot would have, while languishing in a redundant GCI slot contributing nothing.

 

I decided to fly on some other shitty server, rather than spamming Join. ;)

[gregzagk]

I actually considered taking the day off today to help recover.

 

:D

[T_A]

Check this post pls: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2866283#post2866283 Ring any bells? :)

 

still?... let it go , in 2 days its moot.

 

p.s

yesterday i fired 2 530D , head on well inside the kill range of the missile at a SU27, he outmaneuvered both nicely.

 

He couldn't lose the lock or spoof with chaff since the bug, they still missed - this is not a super missile and never was.

[microvax]

I interpreted it the same way he did.

 

Well I thought player/frequency table was clear but I guees then it wasnt.

 

sorry ^^

[microvax]

Check this post pls: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2866283#post2866283 Ring any bells? :)

 

Yeah, that is the RDI radar STT bug, nothing to do with the 530s.

And they dont track out of the STT limitations so yeah definetly SA advantage atm, but nothing about the Super530.

 

And I didnt say the mirage is bug free, I just said the argument i could pull maneuvers without energy is rubbish.

[Yuya6104]

Bluefor strikes back at redfor!

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