Operation "Blue Flag" - 24/7 PvP Campaign - ROUND 9

[sirscorpion]

Changing the majority of aircraft to MiG21 and F5 wouldn't promote a healthy population imo. I have neither and have no interest in flying either.

 

Mirage is too common though and should be considered as a standard fighter...there is no true "interceptor" role in blue flag. Naming a group that is a bit of a misnomer.

 

Agreed fully, RVE is pretty much in agreement with this, The M2k Is popular b/c it is a full fidelity fighter.

 

IMO Standard Aircraft need to be 4 lifes the M2k Added to that category.

 

The light fighters "Mig21 and F5" should get 5~6 lives "if they are to be prominent", this makes them really interesting options for Light ground attack missions and going Vs the high tech aircrafts.

 

I also Advocate that FC3 aircraft should have at least 50% fuel to start with to make them more appealing, In the end people nearly always by pass that with "crashing the gear in the su27 and fuel tanks in the F15". so the fuel system does not really prevent short time to take off. sitting on the ground fueling, or even suggestions of ILS alignment and fueling for the m2k are just a no go in my book. More people flying in a limited slot server or even at some time limited player count is always a Greater option and outcome for game play than ppl alt tabbed for 10min while the time delay is done.

 

The old system of taking out the bunkers to stop the spawn was the best way to prevent spawning.

Edited June 3, 2017 by sirscorpion

[Ciribob]

The Viggen start at Ambrolauri is a bit forward of the area where rearm can be preformed. Might be easier to move the "crew" vehicle to the east somewhere between 50-100 meters... its probably easier to pull up to the truck rather than reverse to it. However, knee-board rearm is working!

 

Ah great to hear the ground re-arm is working for you! Greg and I tried but weren't sure it was actually working.

 

Ok. Sochi captured for test. No rearm/refuel tools for choppers there since base is 0% on capture event. Base is north some 50ish km or less but no slots yet. I noticed that mirages booth have same skins. Hard to distinguish FoF visually. That shoud be fixed.

 

Can you guys (on T-10min game save) export file with unit type and coordinates and then restore that deployed ground units back on server after restart? Wipe the dead ones and SAM limit is set anyway so there wont be much units to restore. It would be so much fun that way.

 

I'm going to be working on saving Dropped crate units (AA, JTAC, EWR & Stinger) but its pretty tricky to do.

 

As a first pass I might make it that the previously dropped AA systems from the previous restart can't be repaired, which makes it easier to do.

 

Changing the majority of aircraft to MiG21 and F5 wouldn't promote a healthy population imo. I have neither and have no interest in flying either.

 

Mirage is too common though and should be considered as a standard fighter...there is no true "interceptor" role in blue flag. Naming a group that is a bit of a misnomer.

 

Mirage has been moved to standard fighter lives.

 

The "interceptor" role - I couldnt really think of a good name. Maybe add QRF (Quick Reaction Fighter / Force) ? but if you can think if a better name im all ears

:thumbup:

[Frostie]

 

The "interceptor" role - I couldnt really think of a good name. Maybe add QRF (Quick Reaction Fighter / Force) ? but if you can think if a better name im all ears

:thumbup:

 

Light fighters, maybe.

[Alpenwolf]

Can we get more flexibility on spawn slots? It seems to me the only module that enjoys so much variety is the Viggen having slots on both airbases and ground ones. I'm sure though it's all still in progress?

[*Rage*]

I'd like to see a greater shift to Mig21 vs F5 combat! Separating lives for modern and legacy is a great idea:thumbup:

[Ciribob]

Can we get more flexibility on spawn slots? It seems to me the only module that enjoys so much variety is the Viggen having slots on both airbases and ground ones. I'm sure though it's all still in progress?

Yup still in progress, no worries!

 

Most slots are missing but will be added soon :)

 

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[iLOVEwindmills]

Just want to add that performance is extremely good atm, even when the server was almost full I did not see a single stutter or warp.

 

Now a lot of 'stuff' is still missing but if it can stay like this it would be amazing.

[Alpenwolf]

I'd like to see a greater shift to Mig21 vs F5 combat! Separating lives for modern and legacy is a great idea:thumbup:

+1

[QuiGon]

I'd like to see a greater shift to Mig21 vs F5 combat! Separating lives for modern and legacy is a great idea:thumbup:

 

+1

 

It would be great if the MiG-21 and the F-5 would nake up the majority of the fighters with the 4th gen fighters becomming rare high value assets.

[Nero.ger]

+1

and pls bing back the L-39/hawk etc

[iLOVEwindmills]

F5 and 21 should have enough reason to be picked now with separate lives+more targets+spawning at captured fields.

[Hollywood126]

+1

 

It would be great if the MiG-21 and the F-5 would nake up the majority of the fighters with the 4th gen fighters becomming rare high value assets.

 

At that point you are forcing people to buy modules that not everyone can A)afford or B) even care for. I don't really see this as a viable option.

[609_Relentov]

The "interceptor" role - I couldnt really think of a good name. Maybe add QRF (Quick Reaction Fighter / Force) ? but if you can think if a better name im all ears

 

Light fighters, maybe.

 

That or "Light Multi-role Fighters" since they both have limited air-to-ground capabilities.

 

F5 and 21 should have enough reason to be picked now with separate lives+more targets+spawning at captured fields.

 

I agree, +1

[AbortedMan]

At that point you are forcing people to buy modules that not everyone can A)afford or B) even care for. I don't really see this as a viable option.

 

This. Forcing a saturation of these modules (or ANY one or two modules) is a recipe for an empty server.

 

That or "Light Multi-role Fighters" since they both have limited air-to-ground capabilities.

 

 

 

I agree, +1

 

Light fighters or light multi-role fighters is a great name.

[QuiGon]

At that point you are forcing people to buy modules that not everyone can A)afford or B) even care for. I don't really see this as a viable option.

 

How's that? :huh:

 

I want quite the opposite. I would like the F-5 and MiG-21 to be more useful, so people can actually use them to good effort so they can fly with them and don't have to buy and play with FC3 fighters, which they might not care for.

Edited June 3, 2017 by QuiGon

[Ciribob]

Just want to add that performance is extremely good atm, even when the server was almost full I did not see a single stutter or warp.

 

Now a lot of 'stuff' is still missing but if it can stay like this it would be amazing.

 

Thats really great to hear!

 

Thats what we were hoping for with the rewrite. :)

 

Feature wise its now same as old BF except for AI interceptors now.

 

There are in actual fact quite a few extra features that old BF didn't have and the last script went in today with the one I was really hoping to get done! I'll leave it to you all to find it :)

 

It'll be interesting to see as we finalise the map and add more units and slots how much an effect that has.

[Hollywood126]

How's that? :huh:

 

I want quite the opposite. I would like the F-5 and MiG-21 to be more useful, so people can actually use them to good effort so they can fly with them and don't have to buy and play with FC3 fighters, which they might not care for.

 

Their use is in the fact that they can spawn at the forward most bases you capture unlike Mirage and FC3 vehicles as well as the fact that they have their own live pool not shared with other aircraft other than themselves.

[mia389]

Their use is in the fact that they can spawn at the forward most bases you capture unlike Mirage and FC3 vehicles as well as the fact that they have their own live pool not shared with other aircraft other than themselves.

 

Ill still fly 200nm and wait 15mins to be fueled instead of flying F5 and mig21. :lol:

 

I enjoy flying the mig21 but not against F15s and M2000s. Awesome module though.

 

I do agree if it were just 21 against f5, server would be dead.

[QuiGon]

As mia said, the light fighters are not useful despite the forward deployment. Maybe the new life system changes that, but I don't think it's enough.

 

And no, I'm not saying there should be just 21s and F-5s, I say they should be made more useful, maybe by making the FC3 slots more rare, like high value assets.

[Hollywood126]

As mia said, the light fighters are not useful despite the forward deployment. Maybe the new life system changes that, but I don't think it's enough.

 

And no, I'm not saying there should be just 21s and F-5s, I say they should be made more useful, maybe by making the FC3 slots more rare, like high value assets.

 

I never quoted you saying that there should only be F5's and Mig21s, but in making them the majority of the fighters on the server you are leaving other people out from flying due to not owning or not wanting to fly them.

[BSS_Sniper]

Why would people switch sides every 3 hours? And there is not much achievement in rolling up base after base because it's 30 to 5.

 

 

 

You haven't been around for many, if any actual rounds? We do not need to be able to switch every 3 hours. It should be locked for the entire round. People will switch just for the sake of being on the side that is doing better. People will switch for 3 hours to find out what's going on. The regulars and I mean those of us that have been in this for quite some time do not want people switching back and forth. You deal with what you have. If you're outnumbered, you work with it. There is never going to be a balance, even if you could switch at any time. People should at least play for a few real rounds before suggesting this stuff. It's all been said before and after they've been around for a bit, they stop after they realize it takes blueflag in the direction of the 104th, exactly the opposite of what most in here want.

[AbortedMan]

How's that? :huh:

 

I want quite the opposite. I would like the F-5 and MiG-21 to be more useful, so people can actually use them to good effort so they can fly with them and don't have to buy and play with FC3 fighters, which they might not care for.

 

Your statement would be valid except that you're coming into a scenario that is primarily based on FC3 aircraft and the Mirage and wanting to change it to what you alone want. If you want a server that is F-5/MiG21 heavy, then look for a server running a late 60s era mission.

 

F-5 and Mig21 have been made more useful by being in their own lives group which affords people the opportunity to fly them without risking their lives they use for the standard aircraft. What else do you think can be done?

[iLOVEwindmills]

You haven't been around for many, if any actual rounds? We do not need to be able to switch every 3 hours. It should be locked for the entire round. People will switch just for the sake of being on the side that is doing better. People will switch for 3 hours to find out what's going on. The regulars and I mean those of us that have been in this for quite some time do not want people switching back and forth. You deal with what you have. If you're outnumbered, you work with it. There is never going to be a balance, even if you could switch at any time. People should at least play for a few real rounds before suggesting this stuff. It's all been said before and after they've been around for a bit, they stop after they realize it takes blueflag in the direction of the 104th, exactly the opposite of what most in here want.

 

How many actual rounds did you play where side switching was allowed every 3 hours?

[QuiGon]

Your statement would be valid except that you're coming into a scenario that is primarily based on FC3 aircraft and the Mirage and wanting to change it to what you alone want. If you want a server that is F-5/MiG21 heavy, then look for a server running a late 60s era mission.

 

F-5 and Mig21 have been made more useful by being in their own lives group which affords people the opportunity to fly them without risking their lives they use for the standard aircraft. What else do you think can be done?

 

I remember the Buddyspike team saying that BlueFlag is supposed to change with each round for more diversity. So far we had modern, 80s and WW2 (Case Blue) scenarios and a Korean Blue Flag was announced a while ago. Still waiting for that, although a Vietnam BlueFlag would be my favorite :)

[AbortedMan]

You haven't been around for many, if any actual rounds? We do not need to be able to switch every 3 hours. It should be locked for the entire round. People will switch just for the sake of being on the side that is doing better. People will switch for 3 hours to find out what's going on. The regulars and I mean those of us that have been in this for quite some time do not want people switching back and forth. You deal with what you have. If you're outnumbered, you work with it. There is never going to be a balance, even if you could switch at any time. People should at least play for a few real rounds before suggesting this stuff. It's all been said before and after they've been around for a bit, they stop after they realize it takes blueflag in the direction of the 104th, exactly the opposite of what most in here want.

 

Wow. This kind of attitude won't help any population issues.