Operation "Blue Flag" - 24/7 PvP Campaign - ROUND 9

[PeaceSells]

Does Blue Flag use labels now? It's been a while since I last played multiplayer, but I don't think it used labels.

 

EDIT: never mind, just saw Ciribob's answer now...

[Esper]

Will we see a return of the server's post-restart TacView file?

Would be nice to watch and learn from my mistakes.

[PorcoRosso86]

Oh thought we turned that off... It was on for Nevada. We'll turn it off.

 

Thanks for letting us know :)

 

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Frankly I think that the labels should be keep on server, they help a lot in close combat, and we all agree that DCS haven't a proper spotting system. Without will be the fair of the "grass level dogfight", by losing the charm of air combat. And not all players can spent for a 52 inch screen. (I solved with a good pair of goggles, but isn't enough :lol: )

About helo, simply many pilots can't fly without CAP or air superiority over the objective, specially with kamov.

When I use helos I know as well that, If I'm alone without cap over my heads, I'm an easy kill.

[StandingCow]

Is it possible to remove harriers from FARPs and just put them at airbases? I am mentioning it due to a thread over a hoggit.... lots of folks having trouble with the lamposts.

[Tholozor]

The issue with street poles at FARPs is an ED bug with Multiplayer. Ciri has a method that removes the poles, but for some reason it only works in Singleplayer. Hopefully it'll work properly in 2.5.1.

[ZioSam]

Removing labels with current spotting system is a wrong move. Helo pilots can use woods as a cover and you wont see a not moving dot. Fighters really need labels.

Other server without labels are all low altitude dogfighting while with labels you canset some wvr tactics.

SA in DCS must be enforced with some kind of external help and a little more visible dot is that we need

Edited April 18, 2018 by ZioSam

[Ciribob]

Afaik labels are visible through trees, they were supposed to be off and for spotting you've got a radar /GCI :)

 

Ground targets didn't have labels anyway so they're not affected.

 

If you don't have a radar, your probably shouldn't be engaging in CAP

 

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[TBear]

Frankly I think that the labels should be keep on server, they help a lot in close combat, and we all agree that DCS haven't a proper spotting system. Without will be the fair of the "grass level dogfight", by losing the charm of air combat. And not all players can spent for a 52 inch screen. (I solved with a good pair of goggles, but isn't enough :lol: )

About helo, simply many pilots can't fly without CAP or air superiority over the objective, specially with kamov.

When I use helos I know as well that, If I'm alone without cap over my heads, I'm an easy kill.

 

+1

 

Why don't U make the dot dark green?

Edited April 18, 2018 by TBear

[ZioSam]

it's very simple if someone don't like just turn them off but some of us really need labels otherwise we are blind as f**k.DCS is not realistic in matter of spotting we need to compensate for that.We have no sun reflection no metal blinking no MK1 eyeball autofocus on a moving object over a background.In current status of DCS neither Giora "Hawkeye" Epstein can be proficient.

I'm happy with my monitor and i don't want to switch to a 52" only because someone don't like a micro dot on his screen(that he can turn off)

[PeaceSells]

it's very simple if someone don't like just turn them off

 

You can't be serious, the moment labels are allowed in the server there's no point in playing without them, you'll be at SERIOUS disadvantage.

 

No matter how unrealistic DCS current view system is, seeing enemy labels behind obstacles will always be more unrealistic.

[dedde01]

You can't be serious, the moment labels are allowed in the server there's no point in playing without them, you'll be at SERIOUS disadvantage.

 

No matter how unrealistic DCS current view system is, seeing enemy labels behind obstacles will always be more unrealistic.

 

+1:smartass:

[Jester2138]

Frankly I think that the labels should be keep on server, they help a lot in close combat

 

The problem is they also help in far combat.

 

Helo pilots can use woods as a cover and you wont see a not moving dot.

 

Incorrect: the dots show through all objects except the terrain itself (and they'll even show through the terrain for a few seconds after you go behind it).

 

Fighters really need labels.

 

Without labels, I can see an F-15C 20 miles away while in VR... you'll be OK.

 

Guess what guys, spotting IRL is hard too. Next time you're in an airliner try and see how far away you can spot a small aircraft. It probably won't be 20 miles :)

[DieHard]

_______________________MIRAGE_QUESTION : LWin + Home

 

 

Have not flown the jets in quite awhile >>> years!

 

I am currently learning the Mirage.

 

Looks like the Start-Up cheat for the Mirage is not allowed on the Blue Flag server.

 

I crash every time when the parking brake gets set to on. I have to restart DCS.

 

So, is autostart not allowed for the jets ?

 

Looks like I will be learning to do the startup procedure by checklist, longhand.

[StandingCow]

Yea, auto-startup isn't allowed.

[PorcoRosso86]

The problem is they also help in far combat.

 

 

 

Incorrect: the dots show through all objects except the terrain itself (and they'll even show through the terrain for a few seconds after you go behind it).

 

 

 

Without labels, I can see an F-15C 20 miles away while in VR... you'll be OK.

 

Guess what guys, spotting IRL is hard too. Next time you're in an airliner try and see how far away you can spot a small aircraft. It probably won't be 20 miles :)

 

labels should be rendered only when the plane is merged. Is possible, and this could save the spotting in far distance. Also have the green dot instead black could help helos. Plane should be hard from 20 miles, but easy from 10 - 8 miles, and now here is very hard than the reality.

[Gaanalma]

I Hate labels... don't turn on please!

[dedde01]

labels should be rendered only when the plane is merged. Is possible, and this could save the spotting in far distance. Also have the green dot instead black could help helos. Plane should be hard from 20 miles, but easy from 10 - 8 miles, and now here is very hard than the reality.

 

Frankly I am playing on a 24" 1080p monitor (not that big) and I have no problems spotting aircraft either 20 or 8 miles out. But I don't like labels: it is like a cheat that you, for example, can know where a bandit is after he has passed to your 6 o'clock and you see hos label.

It is really not realistic.

[Shadow KT]

*thinking to myself*

 

'don't say "get gud", don't say "get gut", don't say "get gud"'

[ZioSam]

Because not seeing targets at 9nm is realistic?having not sun glare/reflection is realistic?

Cliff of Dover came out with a better spotting system in 2011.A tiny black dot is not visible on the black bakcground of your seat or instruments of the cockpit.But at least add a bit of contrast to a not realistic invisible plane with sky as background at less than 10 nm.

I remember when it was legal to sit in cockpit of commercial planes how clear is the view from there and how easy is for human eye to spot a moving plane.In DCS it's not possibleand a tiny dot is not detrimental.If it's possible to see trough object and mountains can't this thing be fixed with some scropt magic?

[Shadow KT]

You are not seeing targets at 9nm, not all of us.

[PorcoRosso86]

Frankly I am playing on a 24" 1080p monitor (not that big) and I have no problems spotting aircraft either 20 or 8 miles out. But I don't like labels: it is like a cheat that you, for example, can know where a bandit is after he has passed to your 6 o'clock and you see hos label.

It is really not realistic.

 

I'm happy for you, I cant see nothing over 3 miles, in others server when close combat is the main rule the labels are pretty fundamental. Could be the video res? Antialiasing? Gamma?

Pity, I hope that in the end ED solve this problem

[PorcoRosso86]

*thinking to myself*

 

'don't say "get gud", don't say "get gut", don't say "get gud"'

 

Thanks for you contribute here :lol:

[Endmonster]

FARP Khasuri for Blue:

 

The 2 slots for Gazelle-L are used by 2 Gazelle-Mistrals - troop transport from Khasuri is not possible, unfortunately.

[Shadow KT]

Right now, there are 2 F-4s sitting in the middle of the RWY on Kutaisi, frozen. One of them is in the middle as if he was takin-off and just froze in one spot and the other one is half-way lined up on the runway.

 

Both have running engines, but just sit there

 

 

 

[Dino Might]

^ just one of the reasons I use the taxiway :music_whistling: