Introducing the VPC MongoosT-50

[Red Dragon-DK]

I admit it looks great, but since I don´t read or understand Russian it makes no sense with labels in Russian other from the look of it. I would perifere an option between Russian or English :thumbup:

[LeCuvier]

The buttons will have different uses for different aircraft. Therefore I prefer no labels at all.

[hansangb]

LOL. MCG Thread all over again (re:labels)

[dburne]

:thumbup:

 

Finally got my replacement cams today!

They definitely look better than what was shipped with my stick originally.

 

Will try tackling putting the soft center cams along with softer springs in tomorrow.

[Rogue Trooper]

looking forward to your input dburne.

[98abaile]

The labels look cool, but I wouldn't want them on my stick.

[zika1234]

Please show us your AAR tryout with new stick..please

 

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[dburne]

Well I am about 45 minutes into this, have the gimbal out and ready to do the actual surgery of replacing springs and cams, man this thing has a lot of screws lol.

 

Will see if I can actually do this and get everything back together properly. Right now my desk is a mess!

[Lenux]

If i order the MongoosT 50, which base would you recommend, guys?

Could I keep it on the desk, same like Warthog, Saitek, etc?

I'm afraid i have not enough space to have it mount on the computer desk

Thank you

[dburne]

I seem to be having trouble getting the cam to properly seat over that notch, has a little angle to it, hope it will be ok...

 

Edit - worked with it a little more and got it to seat.

Edited September 16, 2017 by dburne

[dburne]

Pitch cam screw not budging and starting to strip out, ugh.

[Sokol1_br]

If i order the MongoosT 50, which base would you recommend, guys?

Could I keep it on the desk, same like Warthog, Saitek, etc?

 

The grip is too tall for comfortable use over desk. Rough equivalent to Warthog with 7~10 cm extension:

 

 

Find a way to fit in front of your chair. :)

Edited September 16, 2017 by Sokol1_br

[dburne]

Well the pitch cam screw pretty much stripped now, no way is it coming out.

Looks like I am stuck with the installed harder center cam for pitch now on this stick all due to how one stinking screw was installed.

 

Pretty frustrating... guess I had no need for these replacement cams after all. They should really look at some maybe better quality screws for these cams. I am stuck with this one. Will see if I can get it all back together without any further issue. Not very happy though. Will be soft center on roll and harder center on pitch.

Edited September 16, 2017 by dburne

[Lenux]

The grip is too tall for comfortable use over desk. Rough equivalent to Warthog with 7~10 cm extension:

 

 

Find a way to fit in front of your chair. :)

 

And what's the price if i order it exactly like in the attached image ??

Thank you

[dburne]

I encourage anyone that decides to attempt a cam replacement to do so with extreme caution. I was determined to get this cam screw out and kept trying, it broke off and is now protruding through into the metal bracket, and the gimbal will no longer move at all period.

 

Appears my T-50 gimbal and therefore stick is now toast. Totally locked in place.

I should have just left that harder center cam in when that screw would not come out instead of being determined to get it out, which has now ruined my stick.

 

What a waste, very unhappy.

[Lenux]

What do you mean, dburne ?

So, you wanted to replace the default cam ? If so, why ?

Thank you

[dburne]

What do you mean, dburne ?

So, you wanted to replace the default cam ? If so, why ?

Thank you

 

I did not like the harder center cam which came installed on mine by default, and the extra cams I got were defective so waited a few weeks until I get the replacement cams yesterday.

 

Tried to install the softer center cams ( 2 dot ) this morning. Roll cam replacement went fine. Pitch cam one screw came out ok, the other would not - locked in there like it was glued in or something and stripped. Thought I might could get a small drill bit started into the end of it, then reverse it and back it out. Screw went on through into the bracket behind it and broke off. Screw is protruding into that bracket and therefore gimbal will no longer move. With it broken off, don't see any way to get it at this point.

 

Yeah I know I probably should not have tried this, had done it with other screws that were stripped in the past successfully. These cam screws are not very good. So I have a locked up gimbal now that is no good to me.

 

Guess now I will just have to go back to my Warthog and wait for the MCG Pro grip for my Gunfighter Pro. The Mongoose is done. Lot of money down the drain for me.

Edited September 16, 2017 by dburne

[Lenux]

But can you talk maybe with the Virpil ? They should find a solution to help you out with this issue

[kingpinda]

Also not very happy over here. Replacement cams were only halve polished like the other user who posted alot of pictures. Were better polished than originals so went on with installing.

 

Frustrating to say the least. The new cams dimensions which are supposed to go over the notch are approximately 1,5 or 2 mm narrower than originals. Also the notch seemed to be not cut straight. My guess is that the original didn't fit at first and they manually stripped some material away. They didn't do a decent job though since the cam didn't sit flush with the material. That's where my problems arose. I had to cut away a bit of the material from the sides of the notch and the surrounding "flat/not flat" area to get the cam fit precisely. 10 minute job took 2 hours!

 

Only did the roll cam. Pitch cam was working as intended but not 100 percent smooth but because of tediousness of installing left pitch cam for what it was. And because I apparently stripped the screws on a previous endeavor to fasten it securely so it wouldn't make weird noises and suffer from sticktion.

 

But I'll take my losses and hope to never open the damn thing again. I guess that's the "perks" of early adoption...

 

Not happy about the sloppy manufacturing. I sincerely hope virpil will have better precision in the future because this will scare customers away.

[dburne]

But can you talk maybe with the Virpil ? They should find a solution to help you out with this issue

 

I sent an email, will see.

[dburne]

Not happy about the sloppy manufacturing. I sincerely hope virpil will have better precision in the future because this will scare customers away.

 

I would urge caution to anyone considering trying to replace their cams. If I had of known it was going to end like this for me, I would never have even attempted it and just lived with the harder center cams and stronger springs. At least then I would have had a stick that worked, though I was not crazy about the feel as it came stock.

 

I was able to get the roll cam on ok, though really had to work with it to get it to seat properly and get the screws in. Just everything went to hell in a handbasket with the other cam. I no longer have a working stick.

Edited September 16, 2017 by dburne

[Cyph3r]

I did not like the harder center cam which came installed on mine by default, and the extra cams I got were defective so waited a few weeks until I get the replacement cams yesterday.

 

Tried to install the softer center cams ( 2 dot ) this morning. Roll cam replacement went fine. Pitch cam one screw came out ok, the other would not - locked in there like it was glued in or something and stripped. Thought I might could get a small drill bit started into the end of it, then reverse it and back it out. Screw went on through into the bracket behind it and broke off. Screw is protruding into that bracket and therefore gimbal will no longer move. With it broken off, don't see any way to get it at this point.

 

Yeah I know I probably should not have tried this, had done it with other screws that were stripped in the past successfully. These cam screws are not very good. So I have a locked up gimbal now that is no good to me.

 

Guess now I will just have to go back to my Warthog and wait for the MCG Pro grip for my Gunfighter Pro. The Mongoose is done. Lot of money down the drain for me.

 

Hi Don, I'm really sorry to hear you had a bad experience changing your cams which has resulted in the untimely death of your VPC MongoosT-50 Base. I've received your email regarding the issue and I promise you we'll get you sorted out with this and flying with the MongoosT-50 again!

 

I absolutely urge anyone who is having any issues though, to contact us directly before performing any sort of home-surgery!

 

 

 

Also not very happy over here. Replacement cams were only halve polished like the other user who posted alot of pictures. Were better polished than originals so went on with installing.

 

Frustrating to say the least. The new cams dimensions which are supposed to go over the notch are approximately 1,5 or 2 mm narrower than originals. Also the notch seemed to be not cut straight. My guess is that the original didn't fit at first and they manually stripped some material away. They didn't do a decent job though since the cam didn't sit flush with the material. That's where my problems arose. I had to cut away a bit of the material from the sides of the notch and the surrounding "flat/not flat" area to get the cam fit precisely. 10 minute job took 2 hours!

 

Only did the roll cam. Pitch cam was working as intended but not 100 percent smooth but because of tediousness of installing left pitch cam for what it was. And because I apparently stripped the screws on a previous endeavor to fasten it securely so it wouldn't make weird noises and suffer from sticktion.

 

But I'll take my losses and hope to never open the damn thing again. I guess that's the "perks" of early adoption...

 

Not happy about the sloppy manufacturing. I sincerely hope virpil will have better precision in the future because this will scare customers away.

 

Hi kingpinda, if your cams looked like that one other users then they are still incorrect! Can you email sale@virpil.com with your order number and note about this again and I will personally ensure this issue is resolved for you and you are happy with your VPC setup!

[dburne]

Hi Don, I'm really sorry to hear you had a bad experience changing your cams which has resulted in the untimely death of your VPC MongoosT-50 Base. I've received your email regarding the issue and I promise you we'll get you sorted out with this and flying with the MongoosT-50 again!

 

I absolutely urge anyone who is having any issues though, to contact us directly before performing any sort of home-surgery!

 

 

Thanks I appreciate your looking into this.

 

I would encourage you to pass along to the team, those cam screws are not very good - too soft. If they are in there with any amount of torque, very easy to strip trying to get them out. I got three out of the four out ok because they were not in there very tight, this one though was and created all the woes for me. I stupidly thought I might could get that stripped screw out, obviously that did not go well at all for me.

[Cyph3r]

Thanks I appreciate your looking into this.

 

I would encourage you to pass along to the team, those cam screws are not very good - too soft. If they are in there with any amount of torque, very easy to strip trying to get them out. I got three out of the four out ok because they were not in there very tight, this one though was and created all the woes for me. I stupidly thought I might could get that stripped screw out, obviously that did not go well at all for me.

 

I have definitely passed this onto the team, such feedback is very important to us and we will improve our products based on this feedback.

 

Don't worry about it though Don. As you know I'm currently in communication with you via email and we'll get it resolved. :thumbsup:

[dburne]

I have definitely passed this onto the team, such feedback is very important to us and we will improve our products based on this feedback.

 

Don't worry about it though Don. As you know I'm currently in communication with you via email and we'll get it resolved. :thumbsup:

 

Yes thanks so much, I really appreciate it.

After flying with this stick, the thought of having to go back to my Warthog is not very appealing.