**Viggen Release Information (27th)**

[QuiGon]

If you were looking to install 1.5 Beta as a total separate install and not using workarounds for worry about corrupting your current install.

 

In that circumstance you have an extra 30gb or so needed for installation. Not everyone is going to flick around their install between openbeta and stable branch.

 

In the end it's an issue of ED having 3 separate versions of the game always running.

 

Edit: personally i back up things to my external HDD so it doesn't particularly bother me.

 

Alright, but there is really no need for an seperate install. I do switch between the two branches regularly to test out new patches and then switch back when I need compatibility for MP-servers running on the stable branch, with the latter only beeing necessary if there is a difference between beta and release branch. Right now they are exactly the same.

I never had any corruption problems. It's a different story when converting to the alpha branch though, because the differences are much greater there.

 

Or to put it in other words: Converting to the beta branch tomorrow is exactly the same as recieving the update for the release branch next week ;)

Edited January 26, 2017 by QuiGon

[Grundar]

Alright, but there is really no need for an seperate install. I do switch between the two branches regularly to test out new patches and then switch back when I need compatibility for MP-servers running on the stable branch, with the latter only beeing necessary if there is a difference between beta and release branch. Right now they are exactly the same.

I never had any corruption problems. It's a different story when converting to the alpha branch though, because the differences are much greater there.

 

Same thing I tend to do, i'm not arguing or attacking anyone with my posts, just reasoning why some people are apprehensive :) I've pre-ordered and I'll be playing it regardless of what branch it is on.

 

But even DCS gives you the option to switch from stable to OB, so how it would mess up the files?

 

Unfortunately somethings things can just go wrong when swapping around things regardless of intent or past stability, especially, as QuiGon said, if you for some reason switch to an Alpha release and back (where my variances of data is to be expected). I understand that in this case it is a beta switch to another beta switch and that data variance is probably just module related and hence reversible easily enough.

 

Given that there is going to be new data with the Viggen there is always the potential for an issue. Again it's not something I'm worried about, but I can see why people are :)

[mattebubben]

And while i can also understand it to some degree its completely unresonable for them to blame Leatherneck for it... since its not their fault or in their control...

(and they have not borken any promises concerning the release)

As the alternative would be to either not get the Viggen or get it but with only more limited Functionality.

 

As its possible some of the New ME Functions (To add Weapon Waypoints for the RB 15 etc) might be the cause for the need for a Beta (together with all the new changes for 1.5.6).

 

Personally i think the reason for the release in the beta form first is simply because that is the version ED had decided to Schedule for this week.

[Skulleader]

ARGHHHH my DCS is 1.5.5 "Stable" version and wait again it's a real nightmare, I want the Viggen, Sniffffff

 

Cobra thank for your message, now just wait and pray.

Thanks again, Skull.

[mattebubben]

ARGHHHH my DCS is 1.5.5 "Stable" version and wait again it's a real nightmare, I want the Viggen, Sniffffff

 

Cobra thank for your message, now just wait and pray.

Thanks again, Skull.

 

As many have already explained it should be very quick and easy to switch to the Open beta Version.

 

You could do it today as its currently using the same Version as the Stable release and then tomorrow it will simply patch as normal and then you will have Viggen.

 

You dont even need to have a Seperate Install if you dont want to.

[Hadwell]

I just run the open beta version, only go back to older versions if the current open beta version is too buggy.

 

the majority of multiplayer servers use the open beta version, so it doesn't make sense to use the stable client...

 

when the open beta client is too buggy, the multiplayer servers usually roll back too.

 

in other words

 

the stable client is like a backup version, if the newest version is too buggy, and that's rarely the case.

Edited January 26, 2017 by Hadwell

[InteR]

 

We have been working on a final release candidate for Friday. With that comes an important logistical note:

Friday's patch will be 1.5.6, which means that the initial Viggen release will be on the new 1.5.6 Open Beta branch, NOT on the current stable 1.5.5

 

 

Bad news... :(

[Galwran]

Bad news... :(

 

No it is not bad news. It makes good sense to release first to the beta branch and has minimal effects to those who want to get the Viggen asap. Just read the instructions that are posted like on every page of this thread.

[Enduro14]

Bad news... :(

 

:doh:

 

since when did a release of a new airframe = bad news

[Vitormouraa]

This is getting funny lol

[borchi]

Ok... 1 Day till swedish weekend ;-)

[InteR]

Originally Posted by exodios93:

 

RIP the dream, looks like i'm updating to beta.

 

When is the push to 1.5 stable scheduled?

 

This is correct question :)

 

+1

[Yappo]

90% players not use openbeta. Viggen players tomorrow have no stable (after MiG-21, this normal), no online (~1,5 Viggen pilots).

[InteR]

:doh:

 

since when did a release of a new airframe = bad news

 

Since You need to install another beta DCSWorld, or manipulate the Stable.

 

You like doing that, perfect, but not for me and a lot people. ;)

[BIGNEWY]

Guys as mentioned in many post's here using the open beta is a simple matter.

 

We have the Viggen release to early access and hopefully some nice bug fixes for the client also, if it is pushed to open beta first it will be a good move in my opinion.

 

 

Please keep the comments friendly, and enjoy the hype before release, should be a good weekend :)

[Enduro14]

Since You need to install another beta DCSWorld, or manipulate the Stable.

 

You like doing that, perfect, but not for me and a lot people. ;)

 

You guys are really making allot of drama over something so simple. You take the time to learn these study sim modules but dont take the 10 seconds to convert your install to beta.... your loss and like has been said many times running open beta is generally the better way to go even for all the multiplayer folks since most "popular" servers already run open beta...

[firmek]

:doh:

 

since when did a release of a new airframe = bad news

Getting 1.5 beta with 1.5 installed is also extremely easy - install another version (more HDD space required) or just update 1.5 to 1.5 beta (saves HDD space). Both will take just few minutes as DCS has a great updater functionality which will copy most of the files instead of downloading them.

 

Another point is that Viggen itself is an early access - aka beta module. Could be expected that it would be released with 1.5 beta. Still if running "stable" 1.5 is such a critical point where is the logic as Viggen itself is is going to be beta for a long time? Not even mentioning that 1.5 beta is stable and not much different from 1.5.

 

Never mind though, seems that the arguments are not really helping. A nuance that can be easily just ignored or solved in few minutes has grown to a show stopper. A splendid example of making a mountain out of a molehill.

Edited January 26, 2017 by firmek

[Enduro14]

Really, 1.5 stable and 1.5 beta are most of the time almost the same.

Getting 1.5 beta with 1.5 installed is also extremely easy - install another version (more HDD space required) or just update 1.5 to 1.5 beta (saves HDD space). Both will take just few minutes as DCS has a great updater functionality which will copy most of the files instead of downloading them.

 

Another point is that Viggen itself is an early access - aka beta module. Could be expected that it would be released with 1.5 beta. Still if running "stable" 1.5 is such a critical point where the logic as Viggen itself is is going to be beta for a long time? Not even mentioning that 1.5 beta is

 

Never mind though, seems that the arguments are not really helping. A nuance that can be easily just ignored or solved in few minutes has grown to a show stopper. A splendid example of making a mountain out of a molehill.

 

uh what? im not complaining about the beta i run the beta??? Mis quote?

[Vitormouraa]

I've been using the OpenBeta for a long time, and when the OB is too buggy, or something I don't like, I can just switch to the stable, and it is very simple and easy. Really, with a few clicks, you can do that.

[Cobra847]

We're listening, and will be thinking about options, and if they are feasible. For now, assume only 1.5.6 Open Beta, however.

 

And please you crazy folks; let's chill out a little! :)

[QuiGon]

We're listening, and will be thinking about options, and if they are feasible. For now, assume only 1.5.6 Open Beta, however.

 

Which is totally fine, because converting to the beta is really no big deal :)

[David OC]

It's all good guy's, most here are used to the bleeding edge tech around here, I know I will upgrade to the latest beta to test out the beta version of Leatherneck's latest SimArt.

GUIDE: Using DCS Updater to Update, Revert, Repair, or Install Modules

 

 

[Etherlight]

We're listening, and will be thinking about options, and if they are feasible. For now, assume only 1.5.6 Open Beta, however.

 

And please you crazy folks; let's chill out a little! :)

 

To you, Sir, I present the Medal of Perseverance. May you find a few hours of sleep after release and not drown in the metrick ton of needless tears about problems which are naught. ^^

 

I hope the release sails smooth and we can all enjoy the Viggen over the weekend, provided everybody finds the button to change to the Open Beta in 2 clicks. Amen.

Edited January 26, 2017 by BIGNEWY
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[firmek]

uh what? im not complaining about the beta i run the beta??? Mis quote?

Kind of turned to look that way but nope. Fully support and wanted to add on top of your original comment.

[funkyfranky]

Really looking forward to the release tomorrow :D I'll be polishing my OB install tonight so thanks for the info on which branch it is likely to be released :thumbup:

(Not sure why it is such a big thing that an early access module is released in OB in the first place. I'm sure there are good reasons for it and I find it perfectly reasonable.)