zaelu Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 LanceR? Please... :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
lo-fi Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 There is a post in the lockon-models forum about this that I've just replied to, basically saying that I'm pretty good with max (been using it since version 3) and I'm willing to help with the Mig to bring it up to standard for adding to the game. I've been playing with a few things myself, and I've got the hang of the Ed tools now. The Mig 21 isn't my favorite plane, but so many people seem to want to see this in the game it's hard not to take up the challenge! Stikemax, I see you've done some work already - how can I help?
Force_Feedback Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 It's not my favorite either, but it's a legend, and legendary planes need to be included, and not some lame F-15e. The F-4, Mig-21, F-14, F-104, A-8, A-6, A-4, RC-5A (heh heh, huge bugger), F-111, Mirage F-1, the Harrier, and some more, are the real legends that have proven themselves and fit the timeframe properly. Okay, I added the Viggie cause I like it so much, but heck, it was an awesome piece of engineering. Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
lo-fi Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 Indeed, a legendary aircraft. I'm not too clear on this, but are the flight dynamics for each plane hard coded? A harrier would be really nice, but I'm not sure how it would fit in, and I imagine the flight dynamics would take a lot of work to get right. Is there even any existing code for swing wing aircraft? The args list for the max exporter tools has an arg (No 7 I THINK) for wing sweep, but it does say at the top of the document that some of them are not used. I'd love to see dual cockpit planes that two people can fly. I used to play Longbow 2 a lot with my brother - the best thing about it was being able to play as pilot and gunner in the same aircraft. It really brought home the advantages a two man cockpit can give, and I'm disappointed that subsequent sims haven't added that feature. Ed - pleeeeeeaaaaaaase! lol! Seriously, though, the SU32/34 would be almost worthy of an expansion pack on its own imho. It would be hard to implement in single player i supppose, as the AI would have to do a lot of work, but as a multi player expansion it could add some serious scope. And once the code is there other two seaters could always follow...... Ah, it's good to dream. Sorry for getting off topic!
StrikeMax Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 Ok, you are the most difficult community to please :) I have another option: Above is the "75" variant which i believe is the MF/Fishbed J. I have enough data to accurately model this variant and I don't mind to start again. The big question is would ED accept this variant? so please let me know if you would like this variant and get the confirmation that ED have no objection. Thank you 2
Force_Feedback Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 Ed - pleeeeeeaaaaaaase! lol! Seriously, though, the SU32/34 would be almost worthy of an expansion pack on its own imho. It would be hard to implement in single player i supppose, as the AI would have to do a lot of work, but as a multi player expansion it could add some serious scope. And once the code is there other two seaters could always follow...... Ah, it's good to dream. Sorry for getting off topic! I hear you on that, yes, having the su-32 flyable would be awesome, too bad there is so much secrecy involved around its systems and capabilities. I was very happy when Smotr showed brief moments of the cockpit, so you can imagine how hard it will be to model it accurately. And the su-32 is not being showboated as all 30MK variants, but that mysterious component makes it even more interesting to have in a game, but since it can't be done without getting some espoinage charges, it's fiction for now. Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
thesystem Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 I Think the MF would sure be accepted! I think, when the MF is in it, you can easy change it to a lancer or somewhat because the performance are almost the same....just the different weapons....and electronics.... DCS World, A10C, AV8B, M2k, FA18C, FC3, MIG21
F l a n k e r Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 Strikemax, I definitely love you! Thanks a lot!! (ehm... I think I can read 21БИС in your image, so is the MiG-21bis not the MF one, but is the same!)
Kuky Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 sweeeeeeet! I love you too StrikeMax! :D (REP points earned) PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
GGTharos Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 My question for ED is: Can R-13 be modeled with the poor performance it is supposed to have, or would we have to wait for this? :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
nscode Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 That's not realy a question, is it :) Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
ED Team Chizh Posted November 16, 2006 ED Team Posted November 16, 2006 My question for ED is: Can R-13 be modeled with the poor performance it is supposed to have, or would we have to wait for this? :) Yes, we can model rear aspect IR missile with no cooling seeker. The first experiment on that area was with AIM-9P. Единственный урок, который можно извлечь из истории, состоит в том, что люди не извлекают из истории никаких уроков. (С) Джордж Бернард Шоу
GGTharos Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 Very nice! :) And I know AIM-9P works nicely ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Pilotasso Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 Is there any lockon delay? any seeker diamond cue? we always get the cue locked onto target instantaneously. .
ED Team Chizh Posted November 16, 2006 ED Team Posted November 16, 2006 Is there any lockon delay? any seeker diamond cue? we always get the cue locked onto target instantaneously. We have plane for it. But it is not implemented yet. Единственный урок, который можно извлечь из истории, состоит в том, что люди не извлекают из истории никаких уроков. (С) Джордж Бернард Шоу
Pilotasso Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 rgr that, it should be very cool to see that. Seeker lock delay not only looks very, very cool on the HUD but also is relevant for dogfight tactics. Cheers! .
zaelu Posted November 16, 2006 Posted November 16, 2006 Ok, you are the most difficult community to please :) I have another option: Above is the "75" variant which i believe is the MF/Fishbed J. I have enough data to accurately model this variant and I don't mind to start again. The big question is would ED accept this variant? so please let me know if you would like this variant and get the confirmation that ED have no objection. Thank you Yes! Yes! MIG-21 MF Fishbed J :cheer3nc: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
Witchking Posted November 16, 2006 Author Posted November 16, 2006 wow.....lol...thank you soo much strikemax....i want to give more rep...but I can't...I already gave one...and it doesn;t let me add more. :( WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA|
Mizzy Posted November 17, 2006 Posted November 17, 2006 My question for ED is: Can R-13 be modeled with the poor performance it is supposed to have, or would we have to wait for this? :) How poor would you like the performance to be of the R13 for you to perceive it being 'right' ? :) Just a philosophical thought you may wish to contemplate :D Mizzy.
GGTharos Posted November 17, 2006 Posted November 17, 2006 About as poor as the missile that made it happen ... ;) What was it, 0.1 - 0.2 pk? ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Mizzy Posted November 17, 2006 Posted November 17, 2006 About as poor as the missile that made it happen ... ;) What was it, 0.1 - 0.2 pk? ;) And would that be accuratley portrayed in the LOMAC simulation for you ? :D Mizzy ! PS.. I am being unfair, just having a laugh late at nite before bed (which is the main time I have to get on the internet these days). 1
GGTharos Posted November 17, 2006 Posted November 17, 2006 it can be relatively accurate, yep ;) 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Kuky Posted November 17, 2006 Posted November 17, 2006 wow.....lol...thank you soo much strikemax....i want to give more rep...but I can't...I already gave one...and it doesn;t let me add more. :( errr... give me some then you can give him more! :D :megalol: PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
StrikeMax Posted November 17, 2006 Posted November 17, 2006 Ok Here is a quick draft of todays. My main concerne is the side profile. Canopy and wings are just for you to feel an airplane. I know , there are missing parts at tail base and tip. ;) 4
hitman Posted November 17, 2006 Posted November 17, 2006 Ill take the odd rep inbound to let you spread the stuff thingies at. Yeah I had me some Pepsi. Get off me. Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE | Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VPForce Rhino/VKB MCE Ultimate + STECS Mk2 MAX / Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM | Virpil TCS+/ AH64D grip/custom AH64D TEDAC | Samsung Odyssey G9 + Odyssey Ark | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro | WinWing F-18 MIPS | No more VR for this pilot.
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