GhostDog Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 None, bare system, even without TS, TiR5 and SRS those all OFF too, so add these 3 on top. NV Exp OFF AV OFF CloudServices OFF Corsair Link OFF CoreTemp OFF Asus Suite OFF Asus EZ OFF but tbh, with or without, those few tools are only half a gig of memory meanwhile. I only deactivate them so they dont work/sync/scan/index while I game. Memory wise it's a minor issue. Is your test system the one listed in your sig? EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 Gaming | i5 7600K 3.8 GHz | ASRock Z270 Pro4 | Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 16 GB | PNY CS2030 NVMe SSD 480 GB | WD Blue 7200 RPM 1TB HDD | Corsair Carbide 200R ATX Mid-Tower | Win 10 x64
Roblex Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 I have been playing DCS several times per day since Normandy was released and have yet to see it use over 8Gb. I have been monitoring it because I am testing different configs to get best Performance/Graphic balance. That is in the Spit so if others are seeing 16Gb maybe it depends on the aircraft and the map? ============================================================================================================================== 56sqn US@R Diary of a hopeless Pilot Officer http://roblex56raf.livejournal.com NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti, 16Gb RAM, Intel Core i3/i5/i7 6xxx @ 2700 MHz
SkateZilla Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 16GB was Overkill when I built this system, now it's almost baseline minimum, lol. Next System will be 64 or 128GB Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
rrohde Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 16GB was Overkill when I built this system, now it's almost baseline minimum, lol. Next System will be 64 or 128GB Nice. I am on 32GB RAM right now and thought I was doing well. Guess 64GB will be my baseline for the next built as well. PC: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | MSI Suprim GeForce 3090 TI | ASUS Prime X570-P | 128GB DDR4 3600 RAM | 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD | Win10 Pro 64bit Gear: HP Reverb G2 | JetPad FSE | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk.III w/ MCG Ultimate VKBcontrollers.com
dburne Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 I am still on 16 GB and seems to be fine so far. Honestly when I built this system in Dec 2013 I figured I would be needing to add more ram to it by now. I will likely be doing a complete new build sometime in 2018 and will likely go with 64GB at that time. Just don't see the value in spending the money to go to 32GB on this system for no longer than about a year... Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
BitMaster Posted June 6, 2017 Posted June 6, 2017 Is your test system the one listed in your sig? Yes Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
shab249 Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 The amount of guys here that think they need 32 64 or even 128 is too damn high STOP THROWING YOUR MONEY AWAY FOR NOTHING 8 is good 16 is good to be ready for the future/editing you dont need more than that nobody actually use more than 16 Be smart and just monitor how much ram dcs use on your current computer it wont use more than that even if you have 1 terabyte of ram Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
Hadwell Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 Go with 128 and put DCS on a ram drive :D My youtube channel Remember: the fun is in the fight, not the kill, so say NO! to the AIM-120. System specs:ROG Maximus XI Hero, Intel I9 9900K, 32GB 3200MHz ram, EVGA 1080ti FTW3, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVME, 27" Samsung SA350 1080p, 27" BenQ GW2765HT 1440p, ASUS ROG PG278Q 1440p G-SYNC Controls: Saitekt rudder pedals,Virpil MongoosT50 throttle, warBRD base, CM2 stick, TrackIR 5+pro clip, WMR VR headset. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
BitMaster Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) The amount of guys here that think they need 32 64 or even 128 is too damn high STOP THROWING YOUR MONEY AWAY FOR NOTHING 8 is good 16 is good to be ready for the future/editing you dont need more than that nobody actually use more than 16 Be smart and just monitor how much ram dcs use on your current computer it wont use more than that even if you have 1 terabyte of ram Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk 8GB is good ?????? seriously ??? Go try playing on a populated server and then report back if you still think 8GB is enough. You actually outclassed your opinion to null value with that statement. In contrast to most others saying NO to 16GB+ I have tested almost any config between 6GB and 32GB possible on several i7 machines. With 8GB you will have severe trouble joining online servers..and yes..it works with 16GB, I have used that config for 2 years but I can clearly see that the system can use up to 8-10GB more RAM IF there is RAM to spare. I am NOT saying 32GB is mandatory, just that "some" of it is used for DCS as well. With 16GB total your system just cant use 16GB when gaming, THAT SIMPLE. If those screenshots and YT videos I made dont convince than those guys better dont ask for advise at all as they never wanted to listen 1st place. BTW shab249: If you had spent 1 minute looking at the scrteenshots you would actually see the System uses 16GB while in DCS, I have been up to 22GB on some dense servers. I have a 90min YT video that never drops below 16gigs in use. So dont say" Monitor it and you see it wont use more RAM"...that is PLAIN NOT TRUE ! I have recently built a server with 16GB, yes, cause I now it will never need more. I am not the "buy it all in gold" guy. And yes, I use 32GB, I could use 128GB easily as I do VMware every day, it's just too expensive for my usage but I couod make use of it, along with 16 cores etc.. Just because you dont see why doesnt mean others have to stay in your blind spot ! Edited June 7, 2017 by BitMaster Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
GhostDog Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 I'll be putting together a new rig in a few weeks after all the parts arrive. I'll try to do some benchmarking with 8GB and 16 GB and report back on the results. EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 Gaming | i5 7600K 3.8 GHz | ASRock Z270 Pro4 | Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 16 GB | PNY CS2030 NVMe SSD 480 GB | WD Blue 7200 RPM 1TB HDD | Corsair Carbide 200R ATX Mid-Tower | Win 10 x64
BitMaster Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 Its not really abpout benchmarking, you wont actually gain fps but avoid loading time and stutter, have a clean exit from the game instead of blocking and CTRL-ALT-DEL out of the game etc.. . Unless you put in 32GB as well you wont see any difference as 16GB is sufficient to run it, that was never to be discussed.What matters is: Can the System ( OS+APP ) make use of 16GB in use or more ? As a 16GB total System would never use that much as total RAM used unless it is about to crash you have to put in 24 or 32GB and play the exact same server or heavy SP mission again and see if it loads more into RAM. I say it does. When I had 16GB total I nver used more than 12.x GB in total, OS+DCS. With 32GB I often start with 16GB right after joining the server without even being in a cockpit. Go figure ! Test 32GB as well or the test is taken ad absurdum. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
shab249 Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 8GB is good ?????? seriously ??? Go try playing on a populated server and then report back if you still think 8GB is enough. You actually outclassed your opinion to null value with that statement. In contrast to most others saying NO to 16GB+ I have tested almost any config between 6GB and 32GB possible on several i7 machines. With 8GB you will have severe trouble joining online servers..and yes..it works with 16GB, I have used that config for 2 years but I can clearly see that the system can use up to 8-10GB more RAM IF there is RAM to spare. I am NOT saying 32GB is mandatory, just that "some" of it is used for DCS as well. With 16GB total your system just cant use 16GB when gaming, THAT SIMPLE. If those screenshots and YT videos I made dont convince than those guys better dont ask for advise at all as they never wanted to listen 1st place. BTW shab249: If you had spent 1 minute looking at the scrteenshots you would actually see the System uses 16GB while in DCS, I have been up to 22GB on some dense servers. I have a 90min YT video that never drops below 16gigs in use. So dont say" Monitor it and you see it wont use more RAM"...that is PLAIN NOT TRUE ! I have recently built a server with 16GB, yes, cause I now it will never need more. I am not the "buy it all in gold" guy. And yes, I use 32GB, I could use 128GB easily as I do VMware every day, it's just too expensive for my usage but I couod make use of it, along with 16 cores etc.. Just because you dont see why doesnt mean others have to stay in your blind spot ! I never had issues with my computer even in really populated servers so i dont know what's the deal with you 16 is more than enough Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
BitMaster Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 It was asked if 32 makes sense ! LoL 16Gb is the "unannounced" new minimum to run error free and not only me are saying this. I also didnt say 16GB makes problems ( apart from exiting the game sometimes ). This is like someone saying " I dont like Tomatoes!"..and has never tried even one Tomato ...and you were the one with the 8GB statement, not me !!! Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
shonist Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 16GB was Overkill when I built this system, now it's almost baseline minimum, lol. Next System will be 64 or 128GB i have an 8350 too, would be nice to know how to get it to 5.3 lol. awesome. I7 7700k - Msi Z270 Gaming+ GTX 1070ti 16gb @2400 2x Samsung 850EVO 250/500 - 1x HDD 1TB SAITEK-MAD CATZ CYBORG FLY 5 STICK WIN 10
ED Team f-18hornet Posted June 7, 2017 ED Team Posted June 7, 2017 16GB was Overkill when I built this system, now it's almost baseline minimum, lol. Next System will be 64 or 128GB +1 Right now I have 16 GB RAM as well and I can say that my next PC will be 32 GB or more. AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, GeForce RTX 2080Ti, 32 GB DRAM, HOTAS TM Warthog, FSSB R3 Lighting, MFG Crosswind, Win 10 Pro
toutenglisse Posted June 7, 2017 Posted June 7, 2017 Yep..... hot debate.... 1080 or 1080Ti ?..... easy ! Watch the fps ! ..... There with ram ammount ...it doesn't come to fps... I think if you have the money for extra 16GB and you have a way to invest it in other thing that makes gaining fps go for it .... By the way I found 140€ in my pocket and the extra 16GB will be delivered tomorrow. I won't gain fps but could in some cases work on stutters (DCS/aerofly 2) and I'll give another try to xplane11 demo + flyinside .....it demands more than 24GB and last time it was unplayable in VR...
StefVR Posted June 9, 2017 Author Posted June 9, 2017 Yes I think its n ot about fps the question is do you get less of these occassional stutters which are due to reloading.
Demon_ Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 Go with 128 and put DCS on a ram drive :D :D Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche.
BitMaster Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 Yes, but it's gotta be 4166MHz but getting that to work with 8 Modules....hairy hairy ! No kiddin', more RAM never hurts :) Consistently I am around 16GB now used, so I still say YES to more than 16GB, even if it's like 24GB. Not needed indeed, you also dont need 4k and for sure no 1k€ GPU...LoL.... Guys, we run multi-k€ gaming machines, who cares for 16GB !? Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
StefVR Posted June 10, 2017 Author Posted June 10, 2017 Sometimes tho I wish the developers would comment on this and give a bit of a guidance alkso in respect of the planned future. Same goes for cores. i wonder if DCS world would make use of more than 4 cores and 8 threads. I am thinking on upgrading to X299 with quad channel memory and a 8 or 10 core cpu but only if games like DCS will benefit...
FragBum Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 Yes, but it's gotta be 4166MHz but getting that to work with 8 Modules....hairy hairy ! No kiddin', more RAM never hurts :) Consistently I am around 16GB now used, so I still say YES to more than 16GB, even if it's like 24GB. Not needed indeed, you also dont need 4k and for sure no 1k€ GPU...LoL.... Guys, we run multi-k€ gaming machines, who cares for 16GB !? Yes exactly besides more ram is always better, not only for applications but also for windows to the point of reducing the usage of it's paging file used by the OS. I have 32GB and the OS doesn't really bother with paging (a good thing because it's on an SSD), so less work for the OS and more CPU cycles for the applications e.g. DCS. It's a no brainer for me. :thumbup: Control is an illusion which usually shatters at the least expected moment. Gazelle Mini-gun version is endorphins with rotors. See above. Currently rolling with a Asus Z390 Prime, 9600K, 32GB RAM, SSD, 2080Ti and Windows 10Pro, Rift CV1. bu0836x and Scratch Built Pedals, Collective and Cyclic.
cichlidfan Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 Same goes for cores. i wonder if DCS world would make use of more than 4 cores and 8 threads. I am thinking on upgrading to X299 with quad channel memory and a 8 or 10 core cpu but only if games like DCS will benefit... DCS doesn't use four cores now, so more than four isn't going to buy you anything significant. However, if you run a number of background applications there can still be a benefit, though indirectly. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Konovalov Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 Same goes for cores. i wonder if DCS world would make use of more than 4 cores and 8 threads. I am thinking on upgrading to X299 with quad channel memory and a 8 or 10 core cpu but only if games like DCS will benefit... Forget X299 and for that matter AMD X399 and Threadripper if all you are doing is gaming. Intel i7-8700K | Asus Maximus X Formula | Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | Gainward Phoenix GTX1070 GLH | Samsung 960 EVO NVMe 1 x 250GB OS & 1 x 500GB Games | Corsair RM750x 750W | Corsair Carbide Air 540| Win10 | Dell 27" 1440p 60Hz | Custom water loop: CPU EK-Supremacy EVO, GPU EK-GTX JetStream - Acetal+Nickel & Backplate, Radiator EK-Coolstream PE 360, Pump & Res EK-XRES 140 Revo D5, Fans 3 x EK-Vardar 120mm & 2 x Corsair ML140 140mm
BitMaster Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 I dont have VR but I could imagine that a 6-10 core system would give a btter experience. Higher and more stable lowest fps, like that. From what I have read, correct me if wrong, that VR extension likes multi-core and uses it. Maybe not all VR sets do this but I think I read it a few times that 6-8 cores was their 1st choice. (?) Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Lenux Posted August 22, 2018 Posted August 22, 2018 I just did a short test with Afterburner F 18 Hornet, Caucasus, clouds density 7, 1.00 PM, spring, almost everything high, no MSAA, vSync ON, AF x 16 .... After 2-3 minutes of flight, my RAM usage was 17.700 MB, which is 17,2 GB I have only 16 GB + 32 GB swap on a different SSD Micro stuttering .... like hell I'm very confused, guys. Could anyone explain, please ? I'm not a computer guru, but i think, BitMaster was right I9 12900k@ 5 GHz | 32 GB DDR4 | Asus ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming Wifi d4| RTX 3090 | 6 TB SSD + 8 TB HDD | 4K Samsung Q90R 55" | VKB MK III PRO L | Virpil Throttle MONGOOST-50 | MFG Crosswind | TrackIR5
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