[NO BUG] 1.5.7: Texture mods and Integrity Check [FEATURE REQUEST Submitted]

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

Hey,

 

Since yesterday's patch, my client fails integrity checks in multiplayer. I don't have any mods that change the functionality of any module or the core of the sim, just a few texture mods:

- Barthek's GTM 10

- HD Ka-50 cockpit

- English Su-27 cockpit

- Su-27 FC3 theme (replaces the F-15 main menu wallpaper).

 

Using 1.5.6 this was never an issue. Is there any reasoning behind this change, or is it an unintended side-effect of the patch? Personally, I don't see the problem with using texture mods...

 

 

Regards,

-|DB|- Raven

[otavio]

Same issue here. Hope this was unintentional...

[Art-J]

Apparently all terrain texture mods have been blocked by IC since 1.5.7 and it's intentional.

 

Browse threads for Starway's and Mustang's mods for tips on how to try to make them pass the IC, but be aware that solutions posted there will probably not work for long.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

I just noticed https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3190774&postcount=1288 and https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3190788&postcount=1289

 

Thanks, Art-J.

[Devrim]

For my mods...

 

I need to check one by one to determine the problem.

I think I can fix texture bug but I'm not sure about Integrity Check.

 

I'll be back.

[Devrim]

...

- HD Ka-50 cockpit

- English Su-27 cockpit

...

These mods work properly and they pass the Integrity Check.

 

If problem persists, please specify what/which files can't pass the Integrity Check.

Thank you.

[Coug4r]

Can't they make the IC configurable on the host just like the advanced server options?

 

i think terrain mods failing IC is an intended function, as some terrain texture mods make it easier to spot targets etc.

 

People can also use different graphics settings, graphics driver settings, different monitor settings and even shader mods. Nobody uses the exact same settings anyway. Unless the terrain mod blocking is for the Caucasus mesh update soon to arrive i think it's not necessary to block these terrain mods (or let the hosts decide).

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

Exactly. It doesn't make any sense: the various terrain mods make the environment so much more beautiful (especially in VR).

Besides, easier to spot mobile ground units are very welcome in VR, even if they are not the reason people use terrain mods.

 

It's not just the lack of T4 terrain engine either: NTTR is quite ugly in VR as well, because of the lack of contrast and variation: it just looks like a pile of extremely low resolution pixels (on a monitor NTTR looks quite good though)...

[StandingCow]

Not only are terrain mods important for looks, but also function. Without terrain mods the TGP in the A-10C is near useless (the last time I tried it without terrain mods), ground units sometimes perfectly blend into the ground.

 

I am hoping ED rethink making these fail the IC... or else there are going to be a lot of pilots straining to find their target..

[Coug4r]

.. and some players might be playing on a 15'' laptop screen while others have a 9x50'' flatscreen setup. I wonder who will spot a bandit quicker...

[Kraut]

Just great, every single one of my Mig21 cockpit mods stopped working. WTH ED? Have you ever heard of the phrase "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"? Game is currently unflyable. Thanks.

[Esac_mirmidon]

Non official mods are not supported by ED in any way.

 

So its up to you to use them or not.

[Kraut]

Non official mods are not supported by ED in any way.

 

So its up to you to use them or not.

No, no. The mods work fine, they added them to the IC specifically blocking them for no good reason. It's not a matter of the game changing and the mods needing to be updated, I get that. It's a matter of them being actively blocked that is unacceptable.

 

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[c0ff]

No, no. The mods work fine, they added them to the IC specifically blocking them for no good reason. It's not a matter of the game changing and the mods needing to be updated, I get that. It's a matter of them being actively blocked that is unacceptable.

 

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This is not true. IC does check if the game is vanilla or not. That's it.

[Esac_mirmidon]

You can disagree about IC, but in the end they are non official mods so...

 

Use servers without IC or disable the mod.

 

The other option is a concerted users campaign against this decisions and IC blockings. Maybe if enough people make enough noise ED could change his policy about that.

[Kraut]

This is not true. IC does check if the game is vanilla or not. That's it.

What part of what I said is not true? Yes, I know what IC does. The problem is, they added extra files to be checked that blocks cockpit mods, terrains, and many other mods that have no reason to be blocked. No one wants to play vanilla 1.5.

 

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Edited July 13, 2017 by Kraut

[SkateZilla]

All "Mods", Should go into the /Saved Games/DCS.<install>/ Folder and not in the DCS Main Folder.

 

 

IC Doesnt stop you from using MODs,

 

IC Stops you from Using Mods on Servers that do no want them to be used.

 

You can fly w/ an IC Fail on a Server that doesnt require you to pass IC.

 

 

Users can use Terrain Mods as Cheats in MP..

[c0ff]

Heh.

 

No, no. The mods work fine, they added them to the IC specifically blocking them

NOT TRUE.

 

It's a matter of them being actively blocked

NOT TRUE.

 

they added extra files to be checked that blocks cockpit mods, terrains, and many other mods

NOT TRUE.

 

 

Nothing in the IC blocks anything.

[Kraut]

All "Mods", Should go into the /Saved Games/DCS.<install>/ Folder and not in the DCS Main Folder.

 

 

IC Doesnt stop you from using MODs,

 

IC Stops you from Using Mods on Servers that do no want them to be used.

 

You can fly w/ an IC Fail on a Server that doesnt require you to pass IC.

 

 

Users can use Terrain Mods as Cheats in MP..

Gimme a break. How paranoid are you people? The only mods that have any business being on IC are weapon mods. Next are you gonna tell me they are going to lock everyone to the same resolution because some people can spot easier? What a joke.

 

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[c0ff]

Still, I agree that there should be a method of white-listing user mods for use on servers.

[Kraut]

Still, I agree that there should be a method of white-listing user mods for use on servers.

There is, the server owners have to go through and remove all these files from the IC list that ED added. If they wanted to give the server owners the option to block these additional mods, that's fine. But it SHOULD NOT have been the default in this patch. Now I have to go and spend hours fixing it.

 

 

And no I get that IC doesn't block the mods, but it blocks everyone from joining servers. Effectively the same thing, I'm not going to argue semantics.

 

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Edited July 13, 2017 by Kraut

[c0ff]

If they wanted to give the server owners the option to block these additional mods, that's fine. But it SHOULD NOT have been the default in this patch.

Probably. We're discussing the issue.

 

Now I have to go and spend hours fixing it.

bin\DCS_updater.exe cleanup

will do this for you.

[Kraut]

Probably. We're discussing the issue.

 

 

DCS_updater cleanup

will do this for you.

I know how to fix my client, I'm talking about fixing our server's IC list to allow all mods except weapon mods, effectively reverting IC to the 1.5.6 state on the server. Very few server owners are going to want to ban terrain and cockpit mods, it's fine to have the option, but everyone is angry that this was the default setting for IC.

 

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[SkateZilla]

IC Does what it's meant to do, verify's no files have been modified.

 

if a Server Owner runs his/her server with IC On, then Modified Files will fail IC and not allow a user to join said Server.

 

If you want to fly with mods, then looking for a server with IC Turned off, or have the server admin turn off IC is the best solution.

 

It's there to make sure everyone is using the same files. It's doing it's job.

[karambiatos]

I can see why, but there should be a detailed explanation on what can be edited and how to add mods through the saved games folder.

 

For example i have edited textures for the ka-50 that go in the indicationTextures folder.