PC upgrade or OCULUS?

[Simicro]

WAIT, I dont need all those childhood problems that usually comes with new technology. I rather enjoy fps beyond 100fps and call it a day ;)

 

Me too I'll wait 2-3 years before I consider buying a rift. And if budget does not allow, I would rather invest in the rig or monitor :music_whistling:

[Justificus]

Well, I just got my rift a couple of weeks ago and I'm still blown away each time I fly DCS with it... I can't imagine flying without it now. YMMV but I would go for the rift after experiencing it. If you have a buddy nearby that has one you could try I would recommend it strongly!

 

 

 

EDIT: I had a GTX970 when I first bought it and it was acceptable, but seeing I had the money I also bought a GTX1080 to go with it.

Edited November 21, 2017 by Justificus
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[Fri13]

You should NOT have mentioned this !

 

Just checked, it's 449,-€ at CaseKing....damn !

 

NO, NOOOO..........damn

 

Yes, yes yes....

 

Just a word of consideration, the VR is currently very much overhyped. Not just the hardware dependent but by the content and the whole idea of "being there".

 

There are really only a very few games that are worth the VR experience and DCS is one of them, while still very "broken" by implementation of functionality (like how the VR centered mouse cursor mode works) and then limited by the hardware.

 

 

DCS benefits more about hardware if you don't get good stable FPS now.

[dburne]

You should NOT have mentioned this !

 

Just checked, it's 449,-€ at CaseKing....damn !

 

NO, NOOOO..........damn

 

You do realize that new rig you have coming, just screams for the Oculus Rift bundle to compliment it?

:santa:

[BitMaster]

Yeah, I do....BUT..if I wanna stay married I better not !

 

I saw the red line and I am not gonna cross it.

[Fri13]

Not enough FPS sadly, that is why after just over a week I returned it

 

I have a 3440 x 1400 Gsync screen, and it ran DCS fine, the Gsync hides the frame rate changes very well,

but when using the Rift when the FPS drops it is very noticable.

The resolution just isnt high enough for something so close to your eyes,

a friend warned me before I bought it as he works in software dev and had

tried both rift and vive. He said it wasnt ready yet and I agree with him.

It was very hard to spot anything at distance eg trying to ID ground targets to attack was really hard,

same with spotting aircraft.

 

I will say though that the 3D effect when flying in a heli low to the ground was great,

so much so that the first hard turn I did I thought I was going to puke (trick is to tilt your head into turns)

 

I gave it a shot and found it wanting, I am just glad I was able to get a full refund.

Another mate bought one and he hardly ever uses it for DCS

Well, your experience is what majority seems to get and find out. Diehards now think that VR is the thing but it is like offering 20% more what display does, but takes away 60% of what you need to do.

 

So it is like one step forward and ten backwards.

 

Yet, it is worth to use for same cases but not for combat or training. More like "cruising flight".

 

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I usually post from my phone so please excuse any typos, inappropriate punctuation and capitalization, missing words and general lack of cohesion and sense in my posts.....

[Knock-Knock]

Well, your experience is what majority seems to get and find out. Diehards now think that VR is the thing but it is like offering 20% more what display does, but takes away 60% of what you need to do.

 

So it is like one step forward and ten backwards.

 

Yet, it is worth to use for same cases but not for combat or training. More like "cruising flight".

 

I wholeheartedly disagree. And its not because I spent the money, and wont admit to it.

I use the Rift exclusively, and simply cant fly on a monitor anymore. I have no problem managing the systems, no matter which module it is. And I dogfight, both BVR and WVR, plus ground pounding.

 

I have my TM warthog and two button boxes, plus keyboard -back lit, and infront of me, so I can see it if I tilt my head back a little, and have no problem finding the buttons in blind. All muscle memory and little bit of button on button box counting / feeling- only takes a second or two, and I have the right one, worst case.

 

And yes, for writing down notes and stuff, yea obviously not good in VR.

 

Spotting I dont find any harder in VR than on a monitor. ID'ing, yes, thats really tough in current state of VR. And atm that renders WWII a little useless for me, online. Too big a disadvantage for me, not being able to ID the planes in time. Others dont seem to have as big a problem with it, as I do though.

 

In the end, its all relative, depending on what you do, fly, how you fly/use the planes etc etc.

[dburne]

Yet, it is worth to use for same cases but not for combat or training. More like "cruising flight".

 

 

I am enjoying the heck out of it for combat, disclaimer however: I fly SP only and have no problem toggling labels when needed, yes I have no shame.

:smilewink:

[jvanhoog]

I have had the rift since summer and if it blew up or got stolen right now it would have been worth the price[for me].

[will-]

I've had the dk2, and the screen door effect has put me off to wait till that is completely resolved.

[hansangb]

I've had the dk2, and the screen door effect has put me off to wait till that is completely resolved.

 

There's a big improvement from DK2 to CV1. But if you only care about SDE, you'll be disappointed. So you should probably wait.

 

And before this thread devolves into another love it/hate it (since blacklisting people doesn't apply to quotes - unfortunately), let's agree that some love it and others hate it. There, we covered all the basis.

 

So let's talk about some factual things you CANNOT do unless you have VR

1. Feel the sensation of flight: speed, altitude, etc. It's how the brain senses things.
   
2. Spacial awareness. You simply can't with TrackIR so STOP with "TrackIR and 4K is adequate"
   
3. Open the door of the Huey and lean out to look under you and maintain flight control.
   
4. Defeat a SAM because you can fly *and* keep an eye on the SAM. Again, TrackIR can't do the same thing.
   
5. etc.etc.etc. I'm sure others will jump in with "but you can't do this with VR list any minute now so I leave it to them.
   

Lot of companies allow you to return things. So what do you have to lose save a few hours of your time? Just keep every box/cable etc and give it a shot.

[lasvideo]

BOTH!!! ;)

[javelina1]

snip....

And before this thread devolves into another love it/hate it (since blacklisting people doesn't apply to quotes - unfortunately), let's agree that some love it and others hate it. There, we covered all the basis.

 

So let's talk about some factual things you CANNOT do unless you have VR

1. Feel the sensation of flight: speed, altitude, etc. It's how the brain senses things.
   
2. Spacial awareness. You simply can't with TrackIR so STOP with "TrackIR and 4K is adequate"
   
3. Open the door of the Huey and lean out to look under you and maintain flight control.
   
4. Defeat a SAM because you can fly *and* keep an eye on the SAM. Again, TrackIR can't do the same thing.
   
5. etc.etc.etc. I'm sure others will jump in with "but you can't do this with VR list any minute now so I leave it to them.
   

Lot of companies allow you to return things. So what do you have to lose save a few hours of your time? Just keep every box/cable etc and give it a shot.

 

You're a clairvoyant! ;):lol::thumbup:

 

live and let live... OP, keep us posted. :)

[skouras]

ohhh and guys 1 last question as i see a bunch of people talking about their rift dies because of the headset cable do you have any issues?

[javelina1]

ohhh and guys 1 last question as i see a bunch of people talking about their rift dies because of the headset cable do you have any issues?

 

Have not encountered this issue.

 

With the Rift, you must use USB 3, and it must be a compatible USB chipset. Most folks go with an Inateck USB 3.0 card.

 

Checkout the Oculus site, and run their compatibility checker. (My motherboard's built-in USB 3.0 was compatible, so I didn't need this card)

 

https://support.oculus.com/1357437467617798/

[skouras]

i have a asus z87 pro with 6 usb 3.0 build on i also run the program and pass

[Johnny_Rico]

I used the Inateck USB 3.0 card (you best only use 2 ports on it mind you)

[skouras]

I used the Inateck USB 3.0 card (you best only use 2 ports on it mind you)

i have usb 3.0 by default on the board isnt enough?

[hansangb]

ohhh and guys 1 last question as i see a bunch of people talking about their rift dies because of the headset cable do you have any issues?

 

 

I'm told Rift wasn't quite to HDMI spec and caused some issues. Happened to me before with TitanX(Maxwell). So I just stuck an HDMI to DP adapter and life was good. The strange thing is that it just happened one day w/ no change to the system. But a $7.00 adapter fixed it.

 

On the 1080Ti, I went back to using the HDMI.

[hansangb]

i have usb 3.0 by default on the board isnt enough?

 

 

Probably will be good enough. I've even used 2.0 in the past and it worked oK.

[dburne]

I used the Inateck USB 3.0 card (you best only use 2 ports on it mind you)

 

I am using 3 ports on mine, have been since Jan - working very good for me, probably have been pretty lucky lol.

[Dav IRL]

definitely worth the price of admission! ;):thumbup:

 

+1

 

In VR everything is 3 dimensional, you just can't beat that, so immersive. Get the Rift you will be blown away. Ok its not as crisp but spotting targets is hard in 2D or 3D, so there is very little drawbacks, in fact there are way more positives. 3 Dimensional cockpits & units, one to one tracking, no more bending around the cockpit in Track IR, feeling like you are inside the cockpit and not looking at it, the list goes on.

[Violence]

Hello, I have a Oculus Rift for sale if you are looking. I'v used it a couple of times. It makes me sick as a dog :(

 

Oculus Rift + Touch Includes: Oculus Rift headset, 2x Oculus sensors, 2x Touch controllers, all required connecting cables, and seven free VR apps

 

Who ever is interested please message me.

11/15/2017 Oculus

[MegOhm_SD]

Rift bundle on sale for $349

 

https://www.oculus.com/

[dburne]

Rift bundle on sale for $349

 

https://www.oculus.com/

 

That is the lowest we have seen to date from Oculus, and is a great deal!