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firmek

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Hey guys,

 

I don't know if it's whos dumb or it is just very complicated. I know it is a Harrier thread but I am trying to get some swticehs working on the f-5. I have read the whole thread and compared the cilckabledata.lua file of the f-5 with whats on this thread and it just seems so different and I can'T understand how to get me switches to work :(

 

Is someone able to give me a guideline on how the f-5 2/3 way switches work? No infos is available out here :/

 

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Billy

They work basically the same way. You need an up and down action for 2 position switch and two up and one down action for a 3 position one.

Look for a similar thread under F-5 section. I'm sure it's there, if not start it. It would help to write which keys are you interested in.

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thanks for the reply firmek.

 

I am looking to get both external central tank switch and pylon ext tank switches which are 2 ways.

 

I've read what to had like the up down position switch but I am not sure where to had the line. like this one:

 

{down = hud_commands.RejectSwitch, up = hud_commands.RejectSwitch, cockpit_device_id = devices.HUDCONTROL, value_down = 1, value_ up = 0.5, name = _('COMMAND NAME 1'), category = { _('CATEGORY NAME 1'), _('CATEGORY NAME 2')}},

 

Here is the paragraph which contains the 2 ways witches in the clickabledata.luda file from the f-5e I think I need to modify:

elements["PTR-CVR-LVP-SHOOTOFF-L-359"] = default_red_cover(_("Left Fuel Shutoff Switch Cover, OPEN/CLOSED"), devices.FUEL_INTERFACE, fuel_commands.FuelShutoffCover_Left, 359)

elements["PTR-TMB-LVP-SHOOTOFF-L-360"] = default_2_position_tumb2(_("Left Fuel Shutoff Switch, OPEN/CLOSED"), devices.FUEL_INTERFACE, fuel_commands.FuelShutoff_Left, 360)

elements["PTR-CVR-LVP-SHOOTOFF-R-361"] = default_red_cover(_("Right Fuel Shutoff Switch Cover, OPEN/CLOSED"), devices.FUEL_INTERFACE, fuel_commands.FuelShutoffCover_Right, 361)

elements["PTR-TMB-LVP-SHOOTOFF-R-362"] = default_2_position_tumb2(_("Right Fuel Shutoff Switch, OPEN/CLOSED"), devices.FUEL_INTERFACE, fuel_commands.FuelShutoff_Right, 362)

elements["PTR-TMB-VRP-FUEL-TRANS-FUZ-377"] = default_2_position_tumb2(_("Ext Fuel Cl Switch, ON/OFF"), devices.FUEL_INTERFACE, fuel_commands.ExtFuelTransfer_Cl, 377)

elements["PTR-TMB-VRP-FUEL-TRANS-PYL-378"] = default_2_position_tumb2(_("Ext Fuel Pylons Switch, ON/OFF"), devices.FUEL_INTERFACE, fuel_commands.ExtFuelTransfer_Pylon, 378)

elements["PTR-TMB-VRP-LFT-BOOST-380"] = default_2_position_tumb(_("Left Boost Pump Switch, ON/OFF"), devices.FUEL_INTERFACE, fuel_commands.FuelBoostPump_Left, 380, 9.6)

elements["PTR-TMB-VRP-CRSS-BOOST-381"] = default_2_position_tumb2(_("Crossfeed Switch, OPEN/CLOSED"), devices.FUEL_INTERFACE, fuel_commands.FuelCrossfeed, 381)

elements["PTR-TMB-VRP-RGT-BOOST-382"] = default_2_position_tumb(_("Right Boost Pump Switch, ON/OFF"), devices.FUEL_INTERFACE, fuel_commands.FuelBoostPump_Right, 382, 9.6)

elements["PTR-TMB-VRP-AUTO-BAL-383"] = springloaded_3_pos_tumb(_("Autobalance Switch, LEFT/NEUT/RIGHT"), devices.FUEL_INTERFACE, fuel_commands.FuelAutoLeft, fuel_commands.FuelAutoRight, 383)

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firmek

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Pls, can somebody make a toggle 2/3 Pos switch for the MiG-15:

landinggear, the lockswitch and for the flaps

 

Pls, pls, pls

 

(without target)

Flaps is a 4 position switch - not much use of it, you'll have to stay with keys for moving the lever up and down. On top of that, for most of the switches MiG-15 doesn't have a separate on/off action - just toggle.

Anyway, I'll share the .lua later on - though for the reason above the bindings don't work fully correct.

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TheThumper

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I have the 2/3 positions working in 1.5, but they don't seem to "take" in 2.5. Anybody else experienced this or know what I might be missing?

 

thanks in advance

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Nero.ger

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as far as i know, there is no difference in the input files between 1.5.8 and 2.5.

mind you i never use one of the mod managers

'controlling' the Ka50 feels like a discussion with the Autopilot and trim system about the flight direction.

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dunno, works for me.

If you describe what you do, we can tell what you do WRONG ;)

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Thanks for the feedback, first step is to determine if it is a bug in the game or in my implementation and now that one is solved. It's me and now I get to control when it is fixed.

 

Thank you also for the offer to tell me where I went WRONG, so below is what I have done.

 

For DCS v1.5.8:

I placed the lua snippet found below at the top of the default.lua found at the following location

H:\Games\DCS World\Mods\aircraft\AV8BNA\Input\AV8BNA\joystick

 

For DCS v2.5:

I placed the same lua snippit found below at the top of the default.lua found at the following location

H:\Games\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\AV8BNA\Input\AV8BNA\joystick

 

In v1.5.8, all 2/3 switches work as expected, with v2.5, all 2/3 switches do nothing.

 

Any and all help/feedback is appreciated.

 

	-- 2/3 Position Switch Setup
{down=fcs_commands.Switch_FLAP_SELECT,up=fcs_commands.Switch_FLAP_SELECT,cockpit_device_id=devices.VREST,value_down=1.0,value_up=0.5,name='flaps cruse else auto',category='Shortcuts'},
{down=fcs_commands.Switch_FLAP_SELECT,up=fcs_commands.Switch_FLAP_SELECT,cockpit_device_id=devices.VREST,value_down=0.0,value_up=0.5,name='flaps vstol else auto',category='Shortcuts'},
{down=engine_commands.Switch_H20,up=engine_commands.Switch_H20,cockpit_device_id=devices.DECS,value_down=1.0,value_up=0.5,name='Water TO else OFF',category='Shortcuts'},
{down=engine_commands.Switch_H20,up=engine_commands.Switch_H20,cockpit_device_id=devices.DECS,value_down=0.0,value_up=0.5,name='Water LN else OFF',category='Shortcuts'},
{down=ext_light_commands.Switch_EXT_LT_NORM_NVG,up=ext_light_commands.Switch_EXT_LT_NORM_NVG,cockpit_device_id=devices.LTEXT,value_down=1.0,value_up=0.5,name='Exterior Lights ON else NVG',category='Shortcuts'},
{down=ext_light_commands.Switch_EXT_LT_NORM_NVG,up=ext_light_commands.Switch_EXT_LT_NORM_NVG,cockpit_device_id=devices.LTEXT,value_down=0.0,value_up=0.5,name='Exterior Lights OFF else NVG',category='Shortcuts'},
{down=engine_commands.Switch_FUEL_PRESS,up=engine_commands.Switch_FUEL_PRESS,cockpit_device_id=devices.DECS,value_down=1.0,value_up=0.0,name='Refuel Probe ON else OFF',category='Shortcuts'},

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BlueAngel

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Hi

 

Weren't these toggle switches supposed to be integrated in one of the Harrier updates? I honestly think Zeus or someone said it would.

 

It's just that every time there's an update I have to recover my lua file because DCS restores the default controls.

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Panthir

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Guys, any solution for the ECM knob? At least for the positions RCV and ECM.

 

I use the clickabledata.lua to get the commands.

 

 

 

 

How do you wish to control it?

 

If you're using a single toggle switch, this will set it to RPT when the switch is on and RCV when your switch is off.

 

{down = 3275, up = 3275, cockpit_device_id = 29, value_down = 1, value_up = .75,              name = _('Jammer RPT/RCV'),    category = _('ECM')},

And if you want a command for each position you can use this.

 

{down = 3275, cockpit_device_id = 29, value_down = 1,                name = _('Jammer RPT'),    category = _('ECM')},
{down = 3275, cockpit_device_id = 29, value_down = .75,              name = _('Jammer RCV'),    category = _('ECM')},

 

Well, although your recommendation worked successfully in the past, after the 2.5.1 update it doesn't work. Any idea?

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When you are finished getting all the abstractions you need, I will include them in the default.lua

 

 

Can we please get these into the next available update? They're actually quite important! This mod is a life saver, but it gets old having to replace the files every update. Especially now when it looks like there are tons of updates coming. Keep up the good work!

 

Thanks.


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dannyq8

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can we please get the 3-pos switch configs into the module? Have to edit .lua on every update is tiresome :)

 

Can we please get these into the next available update? They're actually quite important! This mod is a life saver, but it gets old having to replace the files every update. Especially now when it looks like there are tons of updates coming. Keep up the good work!

 

Thanks.

 

Have a look at these and you wont have to replace anything every update.

 

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=98607

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=171956&highlight=ovgme

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Isnt that besides the point, if we have a working solution for this, why can it not be implemented asap. Seems there has been a few updates since the files were posted.

 

Maybe there is an issue we are not aware of?

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Nero.ger

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i am not sure how this Modmanager works. but if its just replacing the file with your mod you run into trouble when Razbam changes something in thier input files

'controlling' the Ka50 feels like a discussion with the Autopilot and trim system about the flight direction.

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Isnt that besides the point, if we have a working solution for this, why can it not be implemented asap. Seems there has been a few updates since the files were posted.

 

Maybe there is an issue we are not aware of?

 

If there was a working solution, I'm sure it would have been implemented. In the meantime I was pointing out an alternative

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I can´t understand why these toggle switches can't be implemented. It's a simples text inserted into the lua file.

 

Right now, without these optional lines there's no button, key or switch option for the NWS/Anti-Skid toggle, for example.

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More than any other thing that pertains to the body it partakes of the nature of the divine." — Plato, Phaedrus.

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