Mars Exulte Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 Well, realisitically, VKB didn't take payment until they shipped. So it was all kind of irrelevant there, since nobody was really out anything, even if the whole damn thing went belly up. In this case, they took the money when the orders were placed, so I can somewhat understand "concern". That said, considering they had a pre-existing product and afaik good track record, I don't doubt they'll get it together eventually. In the meantime, I suggest we revive an old pastime, betting on the dates for "Delay announcements" :P Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2
dburne Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) We did the payment. That's why we are worried:noexpression: I don't think you need to be worried guys - disappointed absolutely but I would not worry too much. I got in on the original pre-order of the T-50 Mongoose, and we went through much the same thing with a long period of silence when we thought our equipment was going to be shipping. Heck I raised all kinds of stink on the forums over this when it was happening. They make a very great product, but they really need to work on their estimates on being able to ship new product. There is an old saying I kept in mind a lot from my career when I was working - Better to under promise and over deliver, than over promise and under deliver. The latter will bite you in the butt every time. But they really need to work on the communication. Edited July 24, 2018 by dburne Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
mdee Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 Raising the concern is good and totally understandable IMO. Now, where is my tracking number damn it? :)
Cyph3r Posted July 26, 2018 Author Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) ► VPC Pre-Order Dispatch Update Hello VIRPILs! We would like to issue a new update regarding the status of the pre-order dispatches. Anyone who has requested an update via email/ticket will already know - but we would like to confirm via announcement also! We’ve been working through the pre-order queue (which opened in mid-April) from the start. There was a very large number of day one pre-orders, so progress through the queue has been slower than we would have liked up till this point. As some of you have already noticed, the VPC MongoosT-50 Base has recently been marked out of stock on both webstores - this is due to our entire team, production efforts included, being shifted entirely to focus on catching up with the pre-order dispatches ASAP. We are very pleased to confirm that a large batch of pre-order stock has been prepared and scheduled for dispatch next week - Monday, 30th July. After this batch the total number of pre-order dispatches completed to date will be around the following: VPC WarBRD Base: 70-80% VPC Constellation Delta Grip: 70-80% VPC MongoosT-50 Throttle: 40-50% The remaining pre-orders will be sent within the following 2-3 weeks (to mid-August). Thank you to everyone for being patient with us as we've caught up! As always, for anyone who has any questions or concerns please contact us at support@virpil.com. Thank you for your continued support, VIRPIL Controls Team Edited July 26, 2018 by Cyph3r ► Website: www.virpil.com // ► Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VirPilControls // ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/VirPilControls For support please email support@virpil.com to open a ticket! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Cyph3r Posted July 26, 2018 Author Posted July 26, 2018 Also I just wanted to chime in regarding some of the concerns over the previous page or so - I really want to emphasise there is no reason to worry. You will receive what you have ordered - and if you are in anyway concerned or just not happy with your pre-order, we offer no questions asked refunds (as confirmed by tintifaxl)! ► Website: www.virpil.com // ► Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VirPilControls // ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/VirPilControls For support please email support@virpil.com to open a ticket! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Hellcat Posted July 26, 2018 Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) Thanks for the heads up ....... Edited July 26, 2018 by Hellcat i7-9700K @ 5.0 l MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Plus MB l 32GB DDR4 2400 Ram l Sabrent Rocket Q 1TB M.2 l EVGA 3080 FTW l Win10 Pro l WarBRD/Warthog Hotas l VKB MkIV rudder Pedals l Reverb G2
Cyph3r Posted July 26, 2018 Author Posted July 26, 2018 That's great, thanks for the update. What does "scheduled for dispatch" mean for EU customers? Is the customs cleared or we going to wait another few weeks until DPD ships it? As mentioned in Discord - the stock will be at our EU warehouse next week ready for immediate dispatch :) ► Website: www.virpil.com // ► Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VirPilControls // ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/VirPilControls For support please email support@virpil.com to open a ticket! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
mdee Posted July 26, 2018 Posted July 26, 2018 As mentioned in Discord - the stock will be at our EU warehouse next week ready for immediate dispatch :) Great news! Thanks again - looks like things are getting sorted out. You guys got some harsh critique from us in last couple of weeks, but I can speak for myself, it wasn't anything personal. (I am still a little pissed off tho :megalol:) PS. I really appreciate direct comms like this, (Cypher answered me on Discord directly) - it's by no means an expectation though - I can imagine it can generate a lot of work, so thanks again for this.
sze5003 Posted July 26, 2018 Posted July 26, 2018 Hopefully I will be in one of those 70-80% warBRD dispatches come Monday. Very excited to get this thing. Have you guys also been working on software for the warBRD or we will use the same stuff for the regular T-50 bases? Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz
Cyph3r Posted July 26, 2018 Author Posted July 26, 2018 Great news! Thanks again - looks like things are getting sorted out. You guys got some harsh critique from us in last couple of weeks, but I can speak for myself, it wasn't anything personal. (I am still a little pissed off tho :megalol:) PS. I really appreciate direct comms like this, (Cypher answered me on Discord directly) - it's by no means an expectation though - I can imagine it can generate a lot of work, so thanks again for this. It's no problem at all! We certainly understand everyone's frustration - but we've taken it in and it's critique to help us grow and improve for the future! Hopefully I will be in one of those 70-80% warBRD dispatches come Monday. Very excited to get this thing. Have you guys also been working on software for the warBRD or we will use the same stuff for the regular T-50 bases? The VPC WarBRD uses the latest VPC electronics, so will still work with our existing software suite. However - we are working on a complete revamp of our software to ease the configuration process. No ETA at this time though sorry! ► Website: www.virpil.com // ► Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VirPilControls // ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/VirPilControls For support please email support@virpil.com to open a ticket! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
chief Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 If I ordered one from Canada today, what would be the time span on receiving one? And if it's a couple months, does my credit card get charged the day of order or the day of shipping. I just don't feel like having the potential of paying interest for something that isn't even on its way yet. Thanks!
sze5003 Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 If I ordered one from Canada today, what would be the time span on receiving one? And if it's a couple months, does my credit card get charged the day of order or the day of shipping. I just don't feel like having the potential of paying interest for something that isn't even on its way yet. Thanks!It would take a month or two until it ships probably more as they need to get all the preorders from April 20th out and shipped. Supposedely those will be shipped hopefully starting Monday through mid August. You are charged the day you order. I've already paid it off on my card at this point obviously. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz
chief Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 That's just crazy that you have to pay in full for something you won't see for possibly 2+ months. A deposit? Sure makes sense.
sze5003 Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 Right now they are swamped with all the preorders but even if they were not, the normal processing time from Belarus is 14 days until it ships and then another week or two to get to your country, then a week or less depending where you are, maybe more. I think the 14 days is due to the fact that it has to get assembled and tested before it's ready to ship. I don't think they just have these things sitting on shelves like a brick and mortar place. Sucks because I've heard great things about their sticks and I can't wait to get that new base, but this is what happens when there is no local competition and I'd rather not buy another warthog. Many of us have been waiting since April. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz
dburne Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 Heck I had my new Mk1 Gunfighter Pro a year before I was able to get my MCG Pro grip for it and give it a try... But I will tell you, it was so worth the wait! Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
MustangSally Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 Right now they are swamped with all the preorders but even if they were not, the normal processing time from Belarus is 14 days until it ships and then another week or two to get to your country, then a week or less depending where you are, maybe more. I think the 14 days is due to the fact that it has to get assembled and tested before it's ready to ship. I don't think they just have these things sitting on shelves like a brick and mortar place. Sucks because I've heard great things about their sticks and I can't wait to get that new base, but this is what happens when there is no local competition and I'd rather not buy another warthog. Many of us have been waiting since April. My T-50 Mongoose took exactly 14 business days to process then 7 days to arrive (Belarus to Aus). Your mileage may vary. Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, 55" Samsung Odyssey Ark, Trackir
chief Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 Ok I just can't decide which one would be better. The warBRD base or the Mongoose. What I understand so far the differences are Mongoose has on the fly adjustability, has 3 cams a 3 springs with it WarBRD can be used for desktop and is compatible with the Constellation Delta grip (no a worry for me though). Other than that besides a few dollars, what is the advantage of one over the other? Did I catch everything or am I missing something? Thanks!
sze5003 Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 The mongoose base offers more flexibility if you can mount it. It can not be used on a desktop. So if you have a desk that can support their mounts, I would do that. My desk is too thick and I don't have the materials needed to make myself a mounting solution so I went with the warBRD base simply because I need to use it on my desk. You can also change the springs and cams inside the warBRD but not as many options for different springs and cams as the t50 base. Functionality wise you still get a great gimbal with good internals compared to other hotas and you most likely would not notice a difference in the day to day usage, same quality movement I believe. So it's not a matter of which is better, just a matter of if you can use their desk mounts then go for the regular t-50 stick and base. I will also end up with an mcg pro desktop bundle too one day..who knows when as I never seem to catch them when they are in stock. The cool thing about virpil is if you have a warthog grip you can just plop that on to either base as long as you install the heavier springs, no adapter needed. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz
tintifaxl Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 Heck I had my new Mk1 Gunfighter Pro a year before I was able to get my MCG Pro grip for it and give it a try... But I will tell you, it was so worth the wait! Do you actually prefer the vkb over the Virpil stick now? Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor.
chief Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 5003, thanks bud. I think I will go with the t50. Appreciate that. take care!
dburne Posted July 29, 2018 Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) Do you actually prefer the vkb over the Virpil stick now? I am tentatively planning on posting a comparison of my thoughts on both in a separate thread here in the near future. As this thread is dedicated to the Virpil WarBRD don't want to really get into the weeds here. I will say I am fortunate to have both and love them both. Edited July 29, 2018 by dburne Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
Gman109 Posted July 30, 2018 Posted July 30, 2018 I am tentatively planning on posting a comparison of my thoughts on both in a separate thread here in the near future. As this thread is dedicated to the Virpil WarBRD don't want to really get into the weeds here. I will say I am fortunate to have both and love them both. I have 2 T50s, and 2 VKB GF sticks (had 3 VKB GFs, but sold the RevbMk2 as I had 2 already and one was just sitting). There are positive attributes to both makers, and few if any negatives other than cost obviously for some. I could never pick a "winner", so I just have a couple of each, hah. I've posted and made a couple short vids on the differences/comparison between all the major Hotas out there right now. Primary DCS System: AMD 9800x3d, MSI Tomahawk 870, 6TB m.2s (2x2t, 1x2tb), MSI Ventus 5080, Seasonic 1200 PSU, 64GB Gskill 6000mhz CL30. 32" Asus 4K OLED 240hz, 49"MSI OLDED Secondary System : 14600KF, z790 Tomahawk, 32GB Gskill 6000mhz CL32, Asus 4090, 2x2TB m.2. VR: Quest 3 for now. Virpil T50x2,T50CM2x2,Warbrd x2, VFX/Delta/Flankr/CM2/Alpha/Tm Hornet sticks, VKB GF3, Tm Warthog(many), Modded Cougar, VKB Pedals/MFG Pedals/Slaw Viper RX+109Cam Pedals/Virpil Pedals x2, Virpil T50+T50CM2+T50+T50CM3+VMAX Throttles/CH Fightersticksx2/CH Throttlesx2/CH peds, Quest 3. Virpil Rotor TCS Plus. All virpil grips, TM Grips, working on VKB GF Grips.
ram0506 Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 Today I got a shipping confirmation for my WarBRD base. Ordered it in April. I7 6700K, Asus Z170 Pro Gaming, EVGA GTX1080Ti SC, 32GB DDR4 @ 3000, Win10 64, BenQ EW3270ZL 2560x1440, VPC WarBRD Base + TM Warthog Grip, TM Warthog Throttle, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals, Oculus Rift S
Hellcat Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 Today I got a shipping confirmation for my WarBRD base. Ordered it in April. Nice :thumbup: i7-9700K @ 5.0 l MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Plus MB l 32GB DDR4 2400 Ram l Sabrent Rocket Q 1TB M.2 l EVGA 3080 FTW l Win10 Pro l WarBRD/Warthog Hotas l VKB MkIV rudder Pedals l Reverb G2
gcze Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 Me too, ordered two weeks ago :-) (warBRD base and joystick 10cm extender)
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