Benefits for DCS from the F-18 arrival

[PeaceSells]

So, with the arrival of the F-18, I'm sure there will be a great influx of new users into DCS, this is an extremely popular jet. Hopefuly sales will be bigger than ever and there will be great and well deserved income to ED.

 

In our hopeful minds, this would make ED bigger as a company and allow more and more development in more general DCS World areas, like multiplayer (dedicated servers?), graphics (model visibility?), airfield operations, comms (VoIP?), AI, missions complexity, optimizations, etc...

 

So, besides the obvious fact that it's the first modern multi-role jet, in how many ways do you think that the F-18 will benefit the World of DCS?

[grammaton_feather]

So, with the arrival of the F-18, I'm sure there will be a great influx of new users into DCS, this is an extremely popular jet. Hopefuly sales will be bigger than ever and there will be great and well deserved income to ED.

 

In our hopeful minds, this would make ED bigger as a company and allow more and more development in more general DCS World areas, like multiplayer (dedicated servers?), graphics (model visibility?), airfield operations, comms (VoIP?), AI, missions complexity, optimizations, etc...

 

So, besides the obvious fact that it's the first modern multi-role jet, in how many ways do you think that the F-18 will benefit the World of DCS?

 

On the negative side... one of those new users was ranting on facebook last week because DCS aircraft were very hard to fly with "keyboard and mouse, can you please make the game easier to fly?"

 

That particular new user was quickly educated about the existence of flight controllers and subsequently purchased a "joystick".

[schurem]

clicking around an airfield in the mission editor i found some interesting things to do with warehouses that point toward the possibility of some sort of strategic metagame. my hopes for a dynamic campaign like thing are slowly rekindling...

[David OC]

clicking around an airfield in the mission editor i found some interesting things to do with warehouses that point toward the possibility of some sort of strategic metagame. my hopes for a dynamic campaign like thing are slowly rekindling...

 

Wags did hint about more things getting done on this front. Article

 

Quick Recap:

 

"For the past several months, we have also been working on Vulkan API integration into DCS World, which we expect to result in a substantial performance boost.

 

RPS: MBot’s dynamic campaigns for DCS World seem popular. Have they influenced ED’s thinking at all?

 

"Matt: While we certainly applaud his efforts, we have much bigger plans for DCS World on this front. We are pursuing much more ambitious plans that incorporate community, cause-and-effect continuity, strategic and tactical goals, player performance tracking and rewards, and accounting for time periods.

 

A bit too early to go into more detail, but this is very much a high priority for us moving forward post-2.5."

 

Article

[PeaceSells]

^^ The other day I was searching the internet for that article and couldn't find it to save my life. I read that some time ago and had the memory that Wags was maybe talking about some sort of multiplayer dynamic campaign, but wasn't sure. I wanted to read it again but couldn't find it, so thank you SO MUCH for that link!!

[Omega3]

Think "World of Warcraft."

 

Except with airplanes...

[StandingCow]

Think "World of Warcraft."

 

Except with airplanes...

 

Will there be DKP points? :D

 

Friendly kill! That's -50 DKP points!

[PeaceSells]

I think you guys are missing the point, this thread is not about making fun of new players for being casual and arcade. Btw, if that's what you want, you don't really need new players from outside... (although I'm not going to cite any names here... cough FC4 thread cough).

 

Please let's discuss the good side instead of trying to imagine bad sides. Also you seem to forget that the F-18 is a high fidelity module and will attract study sim enthusiasts, so I think your assumption about new players is inaccurate...

Edited May 15, 2018 by PeaceSells

[David OC]

Think "World of Warcraft."

 

Except with airplanes...

 

Will there be DKP points? :D

 

Friendly kill! That's -50 DKP points!

 

I think you guys are missing the point, this thread is not about making fun of new players for being casual and arcade. Btw, if that's what you want, you don't really need new players from outside... (although I'm not going to cite any names here... cough FC4 thread cough).

 

Please let's discuss the good side instead of trying to imagine bad sides. Also you seem to forget that the F-18 is a high fidelity module and will attract study sim enthusiasts, so I think your assumption about new players is inaccurate...

 

Omega3 is just throwing out there the way ED "might" go in regards to making DCS more dynamic with the campaigns. StandingCow is just mucking around and being a little sarcastic.;)

 

See

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_Warcraft#Ongoing_gameplay

[schurem]

RPS: MBot’s dynamic campaigns for DCS World seem popular. Have they influenced ED’s thinking at all?

 

"Matt: While we certainly applaud his efforts, we have much bigger plans for DCS World on this front. We are pursuing much more ambitious plans that incorporate community, cause-and-effect continuity, strategic and tactical goals, player performance tracking and rewards, and accounting for time periods.

 

[Santus]

A side benefit, I personally am waiting for is the development of an A/G radar which will then enable 3rd party devs (RAZBAM) to publish some long awaited Attack planes such as the A-7 and A-6 hopefully in that particular order!!! :)

[Mr_sukebe]

Thoughts:

- increased funding, hopefully to be used to close down outstanding bugs, deliver promised content that’s currently de-prioritised

- more players going multi-player, and I don’t just mean team deathmatch. Conscious that say in Elite, there’s a big contingent of players who seem to want to play Co-op style

- bigger player base means that future ad ons like maps and a dynamic campaign will hopefully have a wider target audience, and thus a better business case. Best will in the world that ED want to build us class leading sims, but without the money, just not viable

[schurem]

I think DCS would benefit from a bit more cross marketing with the VR crowd. They are looking for that killer app that is more than a gimmick and has the depth to make wearing the goggles for more than fifteen minutes desirable. DCS is it. But you don't see it in that bravo-sierra oculus app store.

[Mr_sukebe]

I think DCS would benefit from a bit more cross marketing with the VR crowd. They are looking for that killer app that is more than a gimmick and has the depth to make wearing the goggles for more than fifteen minutes desirable. DCS is it. But you don't see it in that bravo-sierra oculus app store.

 

Agreed, but with some reservations.

IMO DCS is definitely one of the best show cases for VR.

Unfortunately, it’s not exactly accessible to casual players. Remember that some say that Elite is too complex, and that’s got nothing on DCS.

 

That’s possibly a justification for:

- FC4, ie adding more simplistic aircraft

- add ons, eg I could see a dynamic campaign appealing to casual users. Another would be to update combined arms, sort out it’s current issues, then add in ship control, and more ground vehicles

[Shadow KT]

All these FC4 threads.... They are pushing the limit.

 

On the other hand, the benefits are:

 

A complicated a full simulation of a modern A/A and A/G radar, which is a base for future modules.

 

Missile improvements

 

Capability improvements .. SEAD, cruise missiles.

 

ATC improvements

 

Cash dolla dolla, helping out ED, making them bigger and better

 

I just hope that older modules won't be left behind.

 

Just some of the nebefits

[dburne]

I think DCS would benefit from a bit more cross marketing with the VR crowd. They are looking for that killer app that is more than a gimmick and has the depth to make wearing the goggles for more than fifteen minutes desirable. DCS is it. But you don't see it in that bravo-sierra oculus app store.

 

Agreed, Elite Dangerous benefits from this - it has a very large following over on the Oculus forums and the game is available in the Oculus Store.

[komemiute]

On the negative side... one of those new users was ranting on facebook last week because DCS aircraft were very hard to fly with "keyboard and mouse, can you please make the game easier to fly?"

That particular new user was quickly educated about the existence of flight controllers and subsequently purchased a "joystick".

 

[PeaceSells]

Omega3 is just throwing out there the way ED "might" go in regards to making DCS more dynamic with the campaigns. StandingCow is just mucking around and being a little sarcastic.;)

 

See

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_Warcraft#Ongoing_gameplay

 

Oh, I'm sorry then, I didn't know anything about World of Warcraft...

[FistofZen]

Realistic FLIR?

[lefty1117]

I want a super ambitious attempt at dynamic campaign like we last saw in Falcon 4. We still haven't seen anything that approaches it, except maybe Enemy Engaged helo series.

[kobeshow]

Wags did hint about more things getting done on this front.

"Matt: While we certainly applaud his efforts, we have much bigger plans for DCS World on this front. We are pursuing much more ambitious plans that incorporate community, cause-and-effect continuity, strategic and tactical goals, player performance tracking and rewards, and accounting for time periods.

 

A bit too early to go into more detail, but this is very much a high priority for us moving forward post-2.5."

 

Article

 

 

yeah yeah, just like they wanted to improve ATC with the new Nevada map and finally make us feel like we are flying in an actual World.

I'll believe it when the updater is downloading that patch.