noisy_lightning Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 Is there a way we can set the air brake to fully deploy and fully retract at a single press of a button from in game. I am using an X55 and the natural switch on the throttle for the air brake is a single position switch, on other modules (Harrier, Mirage etc) I have a profile setup for it to press the keyboard command (B) in game on both press and release of the HOTAS switch which works great. On the A10 and FA18 though, because of the way the brake operates I have to build a macro to hold that key-press for 3 seconds to fully deploy or retract the brake, the only problem is that its just not reliable and flakes out half way some times because if I press another key whilst the macro is part way through running it cancels the air brake macro which then doesnt finish its deployment. Can we please have an additional bind available to fully retract or deploy the air brake, or can someone let me know how to script this please? Thanks
-Painter- Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 +1 "Toggle Air Break" keybind would be great! Regards REAPER 31 | Painter [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Yoda967 Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 I'm still piecing together my control setup, but have you looked in the "Special for Joystick" section? That has quite a few ON/OFF settings, and my plan for after work is to look for a speed brake setting there for that BTN35 on the X55 TQ. Very Respectfully, Kurt "Yoda" Kalbfleisch San Diego, California "In my private manual I firmly believed the only time there was too much fuel aboard any aircraft was if it was fire." --Ernest K. Gann
noisy_lightning Posted May 31, 2018 Author Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) I'm still piecing together my control setup, but have you looked in the "Special for Joystick" section? That has quite a few ON/OFF settings, and my plan for after work is to look for a speed brake setting there for that BTN35 on the X55 TQ. I did and there is one for toggle but it won't allow me to assign a keystroke to it in game. A keyboard binding is required for how I need to macro the command in the X55 software due to how that air brake button works on the X55 (have to macro a release command as well as a trigger) in game it does not detect the release, only the press. Let me know if you have any luck. Edited May 31, 2018 by noisy_lightning
Yoda967 Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) Lightning, Yeah, a toggle doesn't sound helpful. I did find a couple for the flaps (AUTO/HALF and FULL/HALF) so it would make sense to have a speed brake setting (OUT/OFF or something). Hopefully, we'll find something that works. EDIT: Hey, Lightning -- there's another thread with a guy looking for a way to get a 2-position switch to work for his landing gear (https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=210309) and that approach looks like it might work for the speed brakes. The variable would have to be changed, of course, but it looks promising. Edited May 31, 2018 by Yoda967 Very Respectfully, Kurt "Yoda" Kalbfleisch San Diego, California "In my private manual I firmly believed the only time there was too much fuel aboard any aircraft was if it was fire." --Ernest K. Gann
ED Team cofcorpse Posted May 31, 2018 ED Team Posted May 31, 2018 The main and big difference between flaps and speed brake switches is that the first one is momentary in extend position. So, making a toggle command is not so easy. We'll think, what we can do.
Yoda967 Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 Thanks, Cofcorpse. If it helps, the slider button on the right throttle of the Saitek X55 TQ is an ON-OFF switch. What seems like it would work is a setting that allows for ON=EXTENDED/OFF=RETRACTED. Sorry if you already understood that. Just hoping to be as clear as possible. Very Respectfully, Kurt "Yoda" Kalbfleisch San Diego, California "In my private manual I firmly believed the only time there was too much fuel aboard any aircraft was if it was fire." --Ernest K. Gann
ED Team cofcorpse Posted May 31, 2018 ED Team Posted May 31, 2018 If it helps, the slider button on the right throttle of the Saitek X55 TQ is an ON-OFF switch. What seems like it would work is a setting that allows for ON=EXTENDED/OFF=RETRACTED. Does it have two commands for each position or it works like Warthog swtiches, signal is present in ON position?
LazyBoot Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 Here, this will extend when pressed and retract when released {down = hotas_commands.THROTTLE_SPEED_BRAKE, up = hotas_commands.THROTTLE_SPEED_BRAKE, cockpit_device_id = devices.HOTAS, value_down = -1.0, value_up = 1.0, name = _('Speed Brake Switch - EXTEND/RETRACT'), category = {_('_Custom'), _('HOTAS')}},
wilbur81 Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 +2 Long live the X-55! (assuming your handy brother rewired the entire throttle unit for you for $60 :)) i7 8700K @ Stock - Win10 64 - 32 RAM - RTX 3080 12gb OC - 55 inch 4k Display
gharness84 Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) Quick question regarding the speed brake for the F/A-18C. Does this only have 2 possible positions (fully extended/full retracted), or can it be used incrementally (as in slightly extended for small braking)? Edited May 31, 2018 by gharness84 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] _______Spreading peace. One JDAM at a time. :beer:_______
noisy_lightning Posted May 31, 2018 Author Posted May 31, 2018 Quick question regarding the speed brake for the F/A-18C. Does this only have 2 possible positions (fully extended/full retracted), or can it be used incrementally (as in slightly extended for small braking)? Is used incrementally.
gharness84 Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 Is used incrementally. Thank you very much! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] _______Spreading peace. One JDAM at a time. :beer:_______
Kayos Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 According to this F-18 pilot it is fully extended or fully retracted. He may remember wrong though ??? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
609_Relentov Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 +1 for a single key mapping for toggling full extending/retracting of the speed brake. Since some may want incremental as well, continuing to provide the existing separate mappings is probably a good idea as well.
Spudknocker Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 +1 on this request! I wish all modules had this! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Spudknocker DCS World YouTube Channel!! RTX 2080 Ti - i7-7700K - 32GB RAM - DCS on 1TB EVO 970 M.2 SSD - Logitech X56 HOTAS
JumpinK Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 Is used incrementally. source? "Landing on the ship during the daytime is like sex, it's either good or it's great. Landing on the ship at night is like a trip to the dentist, you may get away with no pain, but you just don't feel comfortable" — LCDR Thomas Quinn, USN.
Rainmaker Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 source? The flight manual is an easy place to start. He/she is correct
Mutantos Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 Regarding the airbrake on the F-18 I don't know if it's only me but when extending the brake you can stop it at any position However retracting always retracts it completely. I am unable to stop the retracting process unlike the A-10C
BuLLeT.ZA Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 Please add this bind option. I simply don't have enough buttons on the X52 to bind incremental use A simple toggle for all the way out and all the way in would suffice. Saitek X52 | 4770k@4.3GHz | MSI 1080GTX Armor OC | TrackIR 5
wilbur81 Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 Is there a way we can set the air brake to fully deploy and fully retract at a single press of a button from in game. I am using an X55... Can we please have an additional bind available to fully retract or deploy the air brake, or can someone let me know how to script this please? +1 :thumbup: i7 8700K @ Stock - Win10 64 - 32 RAM - RTX 3080 12gb OC - 55 inch 4k Display
Frederf Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 According to this F-18 pilot it is fully extended or fully retracted. He may remember wrong though ??? I saw that too. He did say that it opens to full but may be closed partially. Maybe he is just used to the 3-way semi-spring loaded switch like in the A-10 or F-16 which has an open-hold-close position and only the close position is spring-loaded. That way a simple open switch throw would stay open hands off. Maybe you can halt an opening brake by returning the switch central by positive action. Bound to a TMWH with the half-sprung 3-pos switch might be perfectly correct but when using a keyboard key or simple joystick button the "it stays in the open switch position" behavior is masked because typical keyboard/joystick buttons are sprung.
Nealius Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 He mentioned that he forgot how the airbrake operated. Things like that tend to happen when you haven't done them in 20 years.
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