Dragon1-1 Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 As often mentioned already, it might help for VR, simply because DX11 does VR in a boneheaded way (essentially drawing the scene from scratch, twice). Vulkan offers better ways of doing that, so I'd expect them to be used from the start. It's also a more modern API, so perhaps some optimizations can be added organically while implementing it. It is essentially a rendering engine rewrite, after all. 2
kerlcat Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 If 3.0 means engine change + others, then Vulcan is only 2 versions away which is 6 wks for 2.9.9 + another 6 wks… keep positive thinking. Hahaha 1 9800X3D /5090 /64GB /SSD 2T+4T /Crystal Super(<-Quest3<-Pico4<-Rift S<-CV1) /Orion F18 /DOFReality P6
Zebra1-1 Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said: As often mentioned already, it might help for VR, simply because DX11 does VR in a boneheaded way (essentially drawing the scene from scratch, twice). Vulkan offers better ways of doing that, so I'd expect them to be used from the start. It's also a more modern API, so perhaps some optimizations can be added organically while implementing it. It is essentially a rendering engine rewrite, after all. VR will have an improvement off the bat, but it might not be as big as some hope. Non-VR users will see less improvement. Most improvements will happen over time. 2 hours ago, kerlcat said: If 3.0 means engine change + others, then Vulcan is only 2 versions away which is 6 wks for 2.9.9 + another 6 wks… keep positive thinking. Hahaha Lol. Version number doesn't mean much, 2.8 went to 2.8.18. Edited October 2, 2024 by Zebra1-1 1
kerlcat Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 51 minutes ago, Zebra1-1 said: Lol. Version number doesn't mean much, 2.8 went to 2.8.18. Yep definitely possible. But that’s rare case. The point is high expectation on sooner release of Vulcan, unless ED planned the release with 4.0 9800X3D /5090 /64GB /SSD 2T+4T /Crystal Super(<-Quest3<-Pico4<-Rift S<-CV1) /Orion F18 /DOFReality P6
Dragon1-1 Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 9 hours ago, kerlcat said: If 3.0 means engine change + others, then Vulcan is only 2 versions away which is 6 wks for 2.9.9 + another 6 wks… keep positive thinking. Hahaha It doesn't work like that, version numbers are not decimals. They'll go to 2.9.10 or 2.10.1 if they have to. It'll be ready when it's ready, as always. 3
kerlcat Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 5 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said: It doesn't work like that, version numbers are not decimals. They'll go to 2.9.10 or 2.10.1 if they have to. It'll be ready when it's ready, as always. You are right on version number 9800X3D /5090 /64GB /SSD 2T+4T /Crystal Super(<-Quest3<-Pico4<-Rift S<-CV1) /Orion F18 /DOFReality P6
RealDCSpilot Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 Some Vulkan .dll files already sneaked into the /bin folder... 5 i9 13900K @5.5GHz, Z790 Gigabyte Aorus Master, RTX4090 Waterforce, 64 GB DDR5 @5600, PSVR2, Pico 4 Ultra, HOTAS & Rudder: all Virpil with Rhino FFB base made by VPforce, DCS: all modules
pjbunnyru Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 3 минуты назад, RealDCSpilot сказал: Some Vulkan .dll files already sneaked into the /bin folder... 1 Cold War Germany, Kola, Afghanistan, Sinai, Persian Gulf, Iraq, Syria MiG-29A Fulcrum, Black Shark 3, F/A-18C, F-16C Viper, Flaming Cliffs 2024
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 16, 2024 ED Team Posted October 16, 2024 31 minutes ago, RealDCSpilot said: Some Vulkan .dll files already sneaked into the /bin folder... we are aware but thank you for the heads up 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
kerlcat Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 3 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said: we are aware but thank you for the heads up Does that mean those to be removed in next patch or formally…;-) 9800X3D /5090 /64GB /SSD 2T+4T /Crystal Super(<-Quest3<-Pico4<-Rift S<-CV1) /Orion F18 /DOFReality P6
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 16, 2024 ED Team Posted October 16, 2024 Just now, kerlcat said: Does that mean those to be removed in next patch or formally…;-) Vulkan isn't ready yet, so anything in public version now has slipped in and should be removed in a future update. 3 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
RealDCSpilot Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 Sad. 1 i9 13900K @5.5GHz, Z790 Gigabyte Aorus Master, RTX4090 Waterforce, 64 GB DDR5 @5600, PSVR2, Pico 4 Ultra, HOTAS & Rudder: all Virpil with Rhino FFB base made by VPforce, DCS: all modules
speed-of-heat Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 the cake is baked when it is baked... 2 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 16, 2024 ED Team Posted October 16, 2024 22 minutes ago, RealDCSpilot said: Sad. Lots of progress has been made, but it is not something that can be shown well in a newsletter. But I do hope we can bring you news soon. thank you 7 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Hiob Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 21 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said: the cake is baked when it is baked... true. raw dough can be a nice treat though..... I loved it as a kid..... 1 "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?"
Bucic Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 30 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said: the cake is baked when it is baked... 4 F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
pjbunnyru Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 ED under weight of promises and news announcements: 4 1 Cold War Germany, Kola, Afghanistan, Sinai, Persian Gulf, Iraq, Syria MiG-29A Fulcrum, Black Shark 3, F/A-18C, F-16C Viper, Flaming Cliffs 2024
Bucic Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 To clarify, my post was not about doubting ED's investment in Vulkan. Merely a Pavlov's reflex to the "cake" stimulus 2 F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
Berniyh Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 8 hours ago, speed-of-heat said: the cake is baked when it is baked... but eating the remainders of the raw dough is part of the fun! 3
SkateZilla Posted November 9, 2024 Posted November 9, 2024 (edited) On 10/1/2024 at 7:20 PM, kerlcat said: If 3.0 means engine change + others, then Vulcan is only 2 versions away which is 6 wks for 2.9.9 + another 6 wks… keep positive thinking. Hahaha 2.9.10, 2.9.11, 2.9.13. .9 is not the last number in Minor or Sub Versioning. MAJOR . MINOR . SUBVERSION . REVISION Edited November 9, 2024 by SkateZilla 4 Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
kerlcat Posted November 10, 2024 Posted November 10, 2024 7 hours ago, SkateZilla said: 2.9.10, 2.9.11, 2.9.13. .9 is not the last number in Minor or Sub Versioning. MAJOR . MINOR . SUBVERSION . REVISION Thanks for pointing it out. Yes, my expression was not even close to reality. The current graphic engine is like from last century and not everyone can afford top tier GPU like 4090 or coming 5090 to max out visual experience. Cross fingers to ED developers get it overhauled sooner. 2 9800X3D /5090 /64GB /SSD 2T+4T /Crystal Super(<-Quest3<-Pico4<-Rift S<-CV1) /Orion F18 /DOFReality P6
draconus Posted November 22, 2024 Posted November 22, 2024 On 11/10/2024 at 3:26 AM, kerlcat said: The current graphic engine is like from last century and not everyone can afford top tier GPU like 4090 or coming 5090 to max out visual experience. Cross fingers to ED developers get it overhauled sooner. Afaik the engine will not be overhauled. It'll be made Vulkan compatible to make a transition from DX11 limitations. It'll look exactly the same at first but will add new possibilities for future development. You'll still need top tier GPU/CPU/MEM to max out visuals at high resolutions. There are options to allow play on lower tier hardware. You seem to have some unrealistic expectations - better ask now before getting disappointed later. 1 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
kerlcat Posted November 22, 2024 Posted November 22, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, draconus said: Afaik the engine will not be overhauled. It'll be made Vulkan compatible to make a transition from DX11 limitations. It'll look exactly the same at first but will add new possibilities for future development. You'll still need top tier GPU/CPU/MEM to max out visuals at high resolutions. There are options to allow play on lower tier hardware. You seem to have some unrealistic expectations - better ask now before getting disappointed later. I won’t be disappointed. And always appreciate the new features and bug fixes with each release. 5090 and Pimax Super is on shopping list …but still look for significant graphics leap which is not UNREALISTIC if you look at what the visual can be achieved with MFS2020 or 2024. Just matter of time while ED worked on it since 2019 publicly if I don’t remember incorrectly. Rome won’t be build in a day while that is a bit too long. Edited November 22, 2024 by kerlcat 1 9800X3D /5090 /64GB /SSD 2T+4T /Crystal Super(<-Quest3<-Pico4<-Rift S<-CV1) /Orion F18 /DOFReality P6
Zebra1-1 Posted December 7, 2024 Posted December 7, 2024 Well....Looks like Vulkan won't be making an appearance this year unfortunately. 1
Berniyh Posted December 7, 2024 Posted December 7, 2024 5 hours ago, Zebra1-1 said: Well....Looks like Vulkan won't be making an appearance this year unfortunately. You'll never know when a Vulkan will erupt. Can only estimate the chances. But if it does, it'll be a big event. 2
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