Radar IFF?When?

[Sir Gus]

Hello,

I would like to know when you are going to release Radar IFF.

The Amraams and 9X missiles updates are nice but they are useless

without Radar IFF to see what we are locking.

Please make this a priority.

Thank you for reading.

[QuiGon]

It's already implemented since June: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3530763&postcount=61

[Sir Gus]

It's already implemented since June: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3530763&postcount=61

 

 

 

 

Ok sry but i guess i didint explain what i mean.

By radar IFF,i mean to see on Hornet's Radar Screen,enemies and friendlies.

Thank you for your reply.

[QuiGon]

Ok sry but i guess i didint explain what i mean.

By radar IFF,i mean to see on Hornet's Radar Screen,enemies and friendlies.

Thank you for your reply.

Gotcha. I don't know when this will be implemented. I don't even know how that would look like on the Hornets radar display or if there is such a feature at all in the Hornet, although I guess it does exist as this is a pretty common feature in modern jets. I just don't know anything about it in regard to the Hornet.

[QuiGon]

Awesome, thanks! :thumbup:

[Bloodhound57]

Are the right and left displays in the F/A-18C capable of color?

[Revelation]

Are the right and left displays in the F/A-18C capable of color?

 

Yes, albeit very limited.

[backspace340]

Are the right and left displays in the F/A-18C capable of color?

 

Yep - if you go into the data page on the Attack Radar screen you'll see the 'COLOR' button to turn it on (though doesn't work yet!).

[Kapsu]

Only red, green and yellow AFAIK.

[Sir Gus]

Great stuff guys,thx.

[TAW_Blaze]

Can't wait for this.. it's crucial to building the right SA.

[Chewie_77]

This would be super useful! It's a bit time consuming (and I'm sure jarring for friendlies) to have to lock them up to determine if friend or fo.

[storemaster]

Only red, green and yellow AFAIK.

 

 

would be more than enough to see the difference.... at least to see any hint for a who is who

[QuiGon]

Keep in mind that the hornet's radar will never be like the f15 or su27 in terms of IFF.

 

In RWS you will only see 3 contacts with IFF response, track under cursor, L&S and DT2. Other targets will still be raw bricks just like now.

 

Only TWS will have full trackfiles with IFF response but with limited scan volume of course.

 

On the other hand, once the SA page is implemented with Link 16, you will have a 360° view of contacts with their IFF response.

 

 

Thanks.

I would rather make comparisons to the M2000C, which is also a full fidelity module like the Hornet. With the Mirage you can have IFF indications for (I think) an unlimited number of contacts in RWS mode. If you press the IFF interrogate button all contacts visible on the radar screen in RWS mode will be displayed with IFF indication.

So, if you're correct about the Hornets IFF capabilities, this would mean the Hornet would be quite a bit less capable in this regard than the Mirage (or RAZBAM has not simulated this realistically which is what I think).

[Beamscanner]

Only red, green and yellow AFAIK.

 

Yup, but the yellow is more amber. The DDIs use two phosphors in their screens. A red and a green.

 

Mixing the two will produce the amber/yellow color

[TomCatMucDe]

The M2000C is not a full fidelity module. It's full of approximation, especially when it comes to the radar and PCA. The radar is more or less and FC3 radar.

I would rather make comparisons to the M2000C, which is also a full fidelity module like the Hornet. With the Mirage you can have IFF indications for (I think) an unlimited number of contacts in RWS mode. If you press the IFF interrogate button all contacts visible on the radar screen in RWS mode will be displayed with IFF indication.

So, if you're correct about the Hornets IFF capabilities, this would mean the Hornet would be quite a bit less capable in this regard than the Mirage (or RAZBAM has not simulated this realistically which is what I think).

 

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[razorseal]

Anyone know what the SA page looks like? So is link 16 fathered from other f18s and awacs?

[backspace340]

Anyone know what the SA page looks like? So is link 16 fathered from other f18s and awacs?

 

It's essentially a blend of the HSI page with sensor information from the radar and datalink. So it looks like HSI page, with waypoints, sequence lines, ground targets etc, but you can also see track files provided from your radar and datalink, and your wingmen's positions. How much else is on there is TBC - the one on the F-16 can show ground threats and their respective ranges (i.e. it'd show the location of an SA-8 and the threat ring for it's missiles).

 

In real life, lots of things can contribute via Link-16, but not sure how much DCS will simulate - at a minimum I'd guess they're going to do it via other F/A-18Cs, the E-2 and the Stennis.

[QuiGon]

The M2000C is not a full fidelity module. It's full of approximation, especially when it comes to the radar and PCA. The radar is more or less and FC3 radar.

 

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It is full fidelity in that sense that you can interact with pretty much all the switches and button in the cockpit, whether their behaviour is realistic or not.

[TomCatMucDe]

If the behavior is not realistic how can you call it full fidelity? I'm puzzeled.

It is full fidelity in that sense that you can interact with pretty much all the switches and button in the cockpit, whether their behaviour is realistic or not.

 

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[backspace340]

It is full fidelity in that sense that you can interact with pretty much all the switches and button in the cockpit, whether their behaviour is realistic or not.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if it was realistic - supposedly the F-15C really can IFF everything in RWS automatically (though it also has a semi-auto mode which IFFs everything at the push of a button like the Mirage). It does seem a really odd omission from the Hornet - but I think the assumption is that it's because the IFF isn't integrated with the radar like the F-15C.

[QuiGon]

If the behavior is not realistic how can you call it full fidelity? I'm puzzeled.

 

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Because you can fully interact with it. The opposite is also possible: A module with fully realistic avionics (e.g. radar simulation) that you can only interact with through game commands instead of cockpit switches.

[RED]

Because you can fully interact with it. The opposite is also possible: A module with fully realistic avionics (e.g. radar simulation) that you can only interact with through game commands instead of cockpit switches.

The M2k radar is on a FC3 level. The only difference is that the TDC can show the relation to a wp instead of the transmitter and that you have to press a button for iff. This thread is also for the hornet and not about the M2k radar.

[NineLine]

Hey guys, please remember 1.15 and 1.16.

 

1.15, we are not simulating other games, we are simulating the real deal.

 

1.16 we cannot have documents, images and such posted on these forums, they will be removed everytime. If you have something of interested for the devs, PM a dev.