EECH 2 Released Today

[SuperKungFu]

Since EECH released today, have any of you boys tried it yet? Interested to hear about the flight models...etc. Based on the screens, i was a little bit let down by the graphics but its still good. Its all about the gameplay, just wanted to hear your opinions first before i jump in.

[Groove]

I tried and so far im disappointed.

 

I couldnt setup my HOTAS properly, the only significant update i could see so far were the hi-res models of the Comanche and the Ka-52 if you check them on externals.

 

I will give it more try next days...

[Allochtoon]

I tried and so far im disappointed.

 

I couldnt setup my HOTAS properly, the only significant update i could see so far were the hi-res models of the Comanche and the Ka-52 if you check them on externals.

 

I will give it more try next days...

I concur. Also, TIR doesnt work, textures flip out, sound skittles, no way to see what axis is mapped etc.

[SuperKungFu]

compared to the old EECH + mods, which one had better eye candy.

[sp0nge]

yeah and id like 2 no how fps are hit with fire, smoke, etc.

[Prophet]

Sounds like someone is trying another Allied Forces......

[SuperKungFu]

lol yea, and now RV and OF both seems a lot better than AF. Hope its not the same case for this one. But from what i've read over at simhq, things are not looking really good.

[rogue_blade]

whats the difference with RV and OF? i cant seem to get an answer on frugals they just argue

[SuperKungFu]

i like RV better because it has slightly better graphics and 6dof. OF has better avionics IIRC, you could enable 60df in OF but its a little messed up.

[Colt40Five]

I was looking forward to this, but people are reporting lots of problems at SimHQ. Looks like it may be a dud until some patching can occur...

 

http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=99&page=1

[SuperKungFu]

A couple of days ago it was mentioned it was going to have 6dof according to naturalpoint. Now that i looked at it again, it seems like its only 2 axis. http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/03-enhanced-games/game-enemy-engaged-2.html

 

The weird angles seen previously on various sites was not 6dof but merely a camera angle using ctrl+f9 or something.

[thereminqblank]

A couple of days ago it was mentioned it was going to have 6dof according to naturalpoint. Now that i looked at it again, it seems like its only 2 axis. http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/03-enhanced-games/game-enemy-engaged-2.html

 

The weird angles seen previously on various sites was not 6dof but merely a camera angle using ctrl+f9 or something.

 

That's really weird because I checked this site about 9 hours ago and it still said EE2 has 6DOF...

[AndyHill]

Naturalpoint were expecting 6DOF, but the developers didn't deliver. This is looking pretty bad, two recently released helicopter sims will turn into very good advertisement for Black Shark if ED actually manage to create a proper helo sim.

 

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Lock on MUST have a dynamic campaign system with multiplayer support AND toe-brakes on an axis!

[PoleCat]

This thing is crap. The modded original is way better. No 6DOF at this time. CTD's all over the place. Very very poorly done IMHO.

 

Can you say "I could care less about my customers so I will sell them this re-boxed buggy POC with some shiny new skins just to make some money?". EECH2 is an insult to all of the modders who have worked thier collective @sses off to bring us something so much better then this for free. No wonder no review copies seemed to have made it around before release.

 

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[Andrew_McP]

This thing is crap.

 

I haven't got my copy yet (it's still in the post somewhere), but it's not sounding very good so far. It'll be a shame if G2 cast a shadow over Razorworks' good name, turning EECH into OUCH!

 

Andrew McP

[EscCtrl]

Still hoping I'll win a copy from lockonskins.co.uk :P

[Fjordmonkey]

Well, I picked up a copy today, and I am to be blunt and totally honest: F**ing disappointed. Here's what I've found out so far. Remember, though, these are my personal views on it.

 

First things first: If you're running Vista, forget about playing it without removing the movie-files in the movie-folder. For some reason, Vista does not want to play the mpegs within the game (can be viewed through mediaplayer/winamp etc) and locks up bigtime when it tries. Nothing I tried (compatability-modes, running as admin etc) worked, so I removed the files entirely.

 

Graphics: Well, not even remotely CLOSE to what Lock On looks like today, or what Black Shark will look like. Even with all options set to max. Trees seem to have gotten either warpdrives or cloaking-devices, since they have a tendency to pop up right below/in front of you (severly annoying when you're doing NoE-flying. I don't think the squirrels appreciate me chopping down the trees with my rotors, either). Fairly bland textures on the ground, and the helicopter-skins doesn't look all that good either. Ambient lighting etc. is fairly good, though, but exploding vehicles look more arcade'ish than anything else. All in all I get more of a Quake-mod-feeling than a helicoptersim-feeling when playing.

 

Flight-models: Have so-far only played the Comanche. And, of course, since I'm not a heli-pilot and have only had one tactical (NoE) flight in a Bell 412 during my airforce-days, I can't say anything about how it stands up to anything from the real world. I can, however, say this: The Comanche feels more like the standard heli's in Microsoft's FlightSim 2004 than anything else. This might, of course, just be me and my rather poor flying-skills flying a heli. Will try the Ka-52 later just to see if there's any difference in the two.

 

Sound: Overall somewhat bland sounds, with a split-second lagtime (noticeable when firing the cannon, for instance) before the sound actually plays. Speech is somewhat annoying as well, as the announcer-woman at ATC must somehow have gotten it into her head that it's a smart thing to have a half-second pause between every word (wish someone would talk to her about that, as it's damn annoying). Not convinced when it comes to engine/rotor-sounds, weapons-fire or explosions.

 

Overall feeling: Disappointed and the game does neither live up to the hype nor live up to the legacy of the original game. Has a certain rushed quality to it. I have not had the CTD-problems that other people elsewhere has mentioned, though. That might change when I get deeper into the game. If I bother to do just that. One other severely annoying thing: Escape-key does nada, and I have not found a way to remap controls other than possibly edit an INI-file (think I saw keystrokes in one of the files I peeked in to fix the startup-problems).

[SuperKungFu]

yep also picked up my copy, kinda dissapointing. Both EECH2 and Whirlwing over Vietnam both was a let down. But I'm still going to give it a chance to test it out. That voice is annoying so i turned it off. Graphics could be A LOT better. This seems like another case of F4:AF, and then the old falcon still beats it. Is this true with EECH, is the old one better with mods?

[brewber19]

Yeah, as soon as I saw it was G2 games I decided not to buy it. Why?

 

Because when they released BoB2 as a rehash of BoB1, it was just godawful...so, after that experience my belief is G2 games simply do exactly as you stated...release a rehashed version of a great game, don't add anything (in fact, make it worse), and just take the money and run.

 

I won't buy anything G2 chooses to publish in future...period.

 

This thing is crap. The modded original is way better. No 6DOF at this time. CTD's all over the place. Very very poorly done IMHO.

 

Can you say "I could care less about my customers so I will sell them this re-boxed buggy POC with some shiny new skins just to make some money?". EECH2 is an insult to all of the modders who have worked thier collective @sses off to bring us something so much better then this for free. No wonder no review copies seemed to have made it around before release.

 

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[SuperKungFu]

well, thanks to these types of games, Black shark would look freakin awesome when it comes out. =)

[7rooper]

I just tried the game and I'm f**** pissed! It's crap! Graphics are lousy. FX are comics like. The pilots are broken in every limb and articulation they have, I prefer to toggle them off. Models are low poly and don't even get me started with the quality of the non flyable aircrafts. Textures don't even look good either. No possibility to keymap controls. Some options aren't saved after exiting the game. The list of bugs and flaws is endless. Too bad!.

This game doesn't even refresh my chopper sim thirst.