obious Posted February 7, 2019 Posted February 7, 2019 I've been reading some posts recently about deleting the FXO and metashaders after updating. I've just (re)-installed the shader VR mod after updating but am wondering if I should also delete the above folders as either for good measure or good practise. Thoughts? Intel 12900k @ 5.2Ghz, RTX 4090, Samsung 1TB NVME, Thrustmaster Warthog & F-18 stick, Pendular Rudder Pedals - Quest Pro AV8B N/A UFC Build Log AV8B N/A PCBs for sale
Strikeeagle345 Posted February 7, 2019 Posted February 7, 2019 I would like to know how often you should be deleting these folders? Strike USLANTCOM.com i7-9700K OC 5GHz| MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON | 32GB DDR4 3200 | GTX 3090 | Samsung SSD | HP Reverb G2 | VIRPIL Alpha | VIRPIL Blackhawk | HOTAS Warthog
HiJack Posted February 7, 2019 Posted February 7, 2019 I delete the fxo and metashaders folders (both in "Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Bazar\shaders" and the same folders in Saved Games) after every update from ED and run a "cleanup" and a "repair" before starting to play. It had a massive effect the first time I did it but have just made a routine of it after that. 1
Strikeeagle345 Posted February 7, 2019 Posted February 7, 2019 I delete the fxo and metashaders folders (both in "Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Bazar\shaders" and the same folders in Saved Games) after every update from ED and run a "cleanup" and a "repair" before starting to play. It had a massive effect the first time I did it but have just made a routine of it after that. Thanks! Strike USLANTCOM.com i7-9700K OC 5GHz| MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON | 32GB DDR4 3200 | GTX 3090 | Samsung SSD | HP Reverb G2 | VIRPIL Alpha | VIRPIL Blackhawk | HOTAS Warthog
imacken Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 Just for the record guys, it’s the fxo and metashaders2 folders in Saved games, not metashaders. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
animaal Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 Is it the case that the two folders are gradually repopulated, as you fly each module? If so, is there a command that can be issued to regenerate it all in one go? Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K, Kempston joystick Interface, Alba Cassette Recorder, Quickshot II Turbo Joystick
etherbattx Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 why do these folders have to be deleted. too many files?
sthompson Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 I delete the fxo and metashaders folders (both in "Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Bazar\shaders" and the same folders in Saved Games) after every update from ED and run a "cleanup" and a "repair" before starting to play. It had a massive effect the first time I did it but have just made a routine of it after that. "Repair" I understand. But what do you mean by "cleanup?" I'm Softball on Multiplayer. NZXT Player Three Prime, i9-13900K@3.00GHz, 64GB DDR5, Win 11 Home, Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 24GB, TrackIR 5, VKB Gunfighter III with MCG Ultimate grip, VKB STECS Standard Throttle, CH Pro pedals
HiJack Posted February 10, 2019 Posted February 10, 2019 "Repair" I understand. But what do you mean by "cleanup?" "C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\DCS_updater.exe" cleanup
BitMaster Posted February 11, 2019 Posted February 11, 2019 why do these folders have to be deleted. too many files? from what I understand, those contain pre-rendered content that may not fit your setup ANYMORE ( DCS-GPU-Win10 ) and as such, your DCS suffers. I hope that makes sense, if not, blame it on me :cry: Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Palten Posted February 11, 2019 Posted February 11, 2019 I delete the fxo and metashaders folders (both in "Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Bazar\shaders" and the same folders in Saved Games) after every update from ED and run a "cleanup" and a "repair" before starting to play. It had a massive effect the first time I did it but have just made a routine of it after that. So, just to be clear, is it the shaders folder or the metashaders folder inside the shaders folder?:music_whistling: | Strix Z490-H | i5 10600K | MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Gaming X | 32GB 3000MHz DDR4 | 256 Gb SDD Samsung 840 Pro + 480Gb SDD Kingston + 500 Gb HDD | Acer Predator Z1 2560*1440p | TM Warthog HOTAS | 2x MFD Cougar | Buddyfox A10 UFC | TrackIR 5 | Win10 Pro 64-Bit Swedish | | A-10C Warthog | AJS-37 Viggen | F-86F Sabre | F/A-18 Hornet | KA-50 Blackshark | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | UH-1H Huey | FC3 | CA | WWII Assets Pack | Supercarrier |
imacken Posted February 11, 2019 Posted February 11, 2019 Re Saved Games, see post #5. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
HiJack Posted February 11, 2019 Posted February 11, 2019 So, just to be clear, is it the shaders folder or the metashaders folder inside the shaders folder?:music_whistling: Good question. It is the metashader and fxo folders inside the shaders folders that should be deleted. DCS will repair even if you delete the "shaders" folders also but you will have much more to download.
imacken Posted February 11, 2019 Posted February 11, 2019 I'm confused here, are you guys talking about what folders to delete for the Shaders Mod? If so, then it's just the contents of C:\Users\xxx\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\metashaders2 and fxo you have to delete. (Note: metashaders2 and not metashaders.) No need to remove anything in the DCS install folder. You also have to rename (or delete) the terrain metacaches for each map, e.g. Mods\terrains\Caucasus\misc\metacache\dcs. After that it is good practice to empty the 2 Saved Games folders above before each update. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
HiJack Posted February 11, 2019 Posted February 11, 2019 I'm confused here, are you guys talking about what folders to delete for the Shaders Mod? If so, then it's just the contents of C:\Users\xxx\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\metashaders2 and fxo you have to delete. (Note: metashaders2 and not metashaders.) No need to remove anything in the DCS install folder. You also have to rename (or delete) the terrain metacaches for each map, e.g. Mods\terrains\Caucasus\misc\metacache\dcs. After that it is good practice to empty the 2 Saved Games folders above before each update. Actually removing the core shader folders had quite an impact on my frames.
Boris Posted April 5, 2019 Posted April 5, 2019 I think it's interesting that deleting these folders is becoming standard practice and is even being suggested by ED staff as standard practice. For many this seems to have quite a significant impact on performance. Wouldn't it be a good idea to have DCS-updater purge these folders? PC Specs / Hardware: MSI z370 Gaming Plus Mainboard, Intel 8700k @ 5GHz, MSI Sea Hawk 2080 Ti @ 2100MHz, 32GB 3200 MHz DDR4 RAM Displays: Philips BDM4065UC 60Hz 4K UHD Screen, Pimax 8KX Controllers / Peripherals: VPC MongoosT-50, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, modded MS FFB2/CH Combatstick, MFG Crosswind Pedals, Gametrix JetSeat OS: Windows 10 Home Creator's Update
RedeyeStorm Posted April 5, 2019 Posted April 5, 2019 Actually removing the core shader folders had quite an impact on my frames. Positive or negative?
Donut Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 I think it's interesting that deleting these folders is becoming standard practice and is even being suggested by ED staff as standard practice. For many this seems to have quite a significant impact on performance. Wouldn't it be a good idea to have DCS-updater purge these folders? Million dollar question right here. It's just downright silly that we have to do this. 1 i5 7600K @4.8GHz | 1080 Ti | 32GB 3200MHz | SSD | DCS SETTINGS | "COCKPIT"
Distiler Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 Many games refresh shaders when they update or detect a new GPU driver installed. Might be a good thing for DCS to do it by itself. AMD Ryzen 1400 // 16 GB DDR4 2933Mhz // Nvidia 1060 6GB // W10 64bit // Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2
Gruw Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 Many games refresh shaders when they update or detect a new GPU driver installed. Might be a good thing for DCS to do it by itself. +1
Slazi Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 Thank you to everyone in this thread for talking about this. Can we clarify the instructions: Delete the contents of: Saved Games\DCS\metashaders2 Saved Games\DCS\fxo but not metashader2) s or any other files here [*]Delete DCSWorld\Bazar\shaders\ ...?? Which sections from this? The metashaders subdirectory? Specific files in that? My shaders folder is around 61mb and metashaders is just under 2mb right now. Is there any good reason this is not done automatically by the game? It seems that a lot of players are going to be taking massive frame rate hits for no good reason.
Willie Nelson Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 Thank you to everyone in this thread for talking about this. Can we clarify the instructions: Delete the contents of: Saved Games\DCS\metashaders2 Saved Games\DCS\fxo but not metashader2) s or any other files here [*]Delete DCSWorld\Bazar\shaders\ ...?? Which sections from this? The metashaders subdirectory? Specific files in that? My shaders folder is around 61mb and metashaders is just under 2mb right now. Is there any good reason this is not done automatically by the game? It seems that a lot of players are going to be taking massive frame rate hits for no good reason. This is new to me too, I’d like clarification about the process and if possible it would of course great if ED could in fact make this process redundant through an upgrade. i7700k OC to 4.8GHz with Noctua NH-U14S (fan) with AORUS RTX2080ti 11GB Waterforce. 32GDDR, Warthog HOTAS and Saitek rudders. HP Reverb.
pimp Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 This is new to me too, I’d like clarification about the process and if possible it would of course great if ED could in fact make this process redundant through an upgrade. They're already trying to figure this out. It's a sticky on the first page of this thread: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=248894 i9 14900k @5.6GHz NZXT Kraken |Asus ROG Strix Z790 A-Gaming | Samsung NVMe m.2 990 Pro 2TB | 64GB DDR5 6400MHz EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra | PiMAX CRYSTAL LIGHT | HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Flight Pedals
splash Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 My suggestion is not deleting any file in DCS main installation, only in Saved Games. You can indeed delete the whole dcs folder inside saved games and it will be regenerated in next run (you will lose your configuration as you know). If you delete fxo and metashaders2 you'll note that the launch of a mission takes longer.
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