imacken Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 The WMR for SteamVR from last night reset the config file again, so an edit is required to switch on Motion Reprojection. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick33 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 The WMR for SteamVR from last night reset the config file again, so an edit is required to switch on Motion Reprojection.Thanks for the heads up. I didn't get an update and according to the WMR for SteamVR news page the stable version is now a newer build than the beta! https://steamcommunity.com/app/719950/allnews/ AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) Yep, not even sure how to find out what version I'm using! EDIT: Just looked at the exe file, and it says 1.1.177.0, so I guess the beta and release are the same version for the moment. Edited March 15, 2020 by imacken Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick33 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Yep, not even sure how to find out what version I'm using! EDIT: Just looked at the exe file, and it says 1.1.177.0, so I guess the beta and release are the same version for the moment.Sounds right, I just opted out of beta and validated and the only thing that changed was the settings file. AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majapahit Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 When using fpsVR this will manage Motion Reprojection whatever the default.vrsettings says | VR goggles | Autopilot panel | Headtracker | TM HOTAS | G920 HOTAS | MS FFB 2 | Throttle Quadrants | 8600K | GTX 1080 | 64GB RAM| Win 10 x64 | Voicerecognition | 50" UHD TV monitor | 40" 1080p TV monitor | 2x 24" 1080p side monitors | 24" 1080p touchscreen | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 When using fpsVR this will manage Motion Reprojection whatever the default.vrsettings says Eh no, it won't! Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majapahit Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Eh no, it won't! Eh, does with me. It's ON while .default has // | VR goggles | Autopilot panel | Headtracker | TM HOTAS | G920 HOTAS | MS FFB 2 | Throttle Quadrants | 8600K | GTX 1080 | 64GB RAM| Win 10 x64 | Voicerecognition | 50" UHD TV monitor | 40" 1080p TV monitor | 2x 24" 1080p side monitors | 24" 1080p touchscreen | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Eh, does with me. It's ON while .default has // Where are you setting it as 'ON' in fpsVR? Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majapahit Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Where are you setting it as 'ON' in fpsVR? 'Advanced' I think I remember, ' .. global' 'override Default Global' 'Toggle ..' or something | VR goggles | Autopilot panel | Headtracker | TM HOTAS | G920 HOTAS | MS FFB 2 | Throttle Quadrants | 8600K | GTX 1080 | 64GB RAM| Win 10 x64 | Voicerecognition | 50" UHD TV monitor | 40" 1080p TV monitor | 2x 24" 1080p side monitors | 24" 1080p touchscreen | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 'Advanced' I think I remember, ' .. global' 'override Default Global' 'Toggle ..' or something That's what I thought. Those settings - as stated on the fpsVR screen - are for Vive/Vive Pro/Index and ASYNC REPROJECTION only. They do not apply to the Reverb which uses Motion Reprojection. The only control over MP on the Reverb and other WMR headsets is via the default.settings file. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglewings Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 That's what I thought. Those settings - as stated on the fpsVR screen - are for Vive/Vive Pro/Index and ASYNC REPROJECTION only. They do not apply to the Reverb which uses Motion Reprojection. The only control over MP on the Reverb and other WMR headsets is via the default.settings file.I have the odyssey +. I found out from my experience that changing settings in vr default setting file is counter productive. So I have it as it is and vr game play is good without major issues. Windows 10 Pro 64bit|Ryzen 5600 @3.8Ghz|EVGA RTX 3070 XC3 Ultra|Corair vengence 32G DDR4 @3200mhz|MSI B550|Thrustmaster Flightstick| Virpil CM3 Throttle| Thrustmaster TFRP Rudder Pedal /Samsung Odyssey Plus Headset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I have the odyssey +. I found out from my experience that changing settings in vr default setting file is counter productive. So I have it as it is and vr game play is good without major issues. What do you mean ‘counter productive’? Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglewings Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 What do you mean ‘counter productive’?Play becomes jittery and micro stuttering becomes frequent with some artifacts. Happened the two times I uncommented those lines in 2.5.5 and reverted back to default. Never bothered to change anything again just not to upset present vr play. I can say I followed the instructions but it did not give me desired results compared to leaving it as is. Windows 10 Pro 64bit|Ryzen 5600 @3.8Ghz|EVGA RTX 3070 XC3 Ultra|Corair vengence 32G DDR4 @3200mhz|MSI B550|Thrustmaster Flightstick| Virpil CM3 Throttle| Thrustmaster TFRP Rudder Pedal /Samsung Odyssey Plus Headset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Play becomes jittery and micro stuttering becomes frequent with some artifacts. Happened the two times I uncommented those lines in 2.5.5 and reverted back to default. Never bothered to change anything again just not to upset present vr play. I can say I followed the instructions but it did not give me desired results compared to leaving it as is. That's really strange, as the whole point of MP is to smooth/fill out the frames to avoid exactly what you say you are seeing, i.e. jittering and microstuttering. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglewings Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 That's really strange, as the whole point of MP is to smooth/fill out the frames to avoid exactly what you say you are seeing, i.e. jittering and microstuttering.Correct I do not really know why it did that in my case. Since I play with no issues with default settings, I do not really bother changing anything in there. I just go by the rule of do not fix it if not broken for now. Windows 10 Pro 64bit|Ryzen 5600 @3.8Ghz|EVGA RTX 3070 XC3 Ultra|Corair vengence 32G DDR4 @3200mhz|MSI B550|Thrustmaster Flightstick| Virpil CM3 Throttle| Thrustmaster TFRP Rudder Pedal /Samsung Odyssey Plus Headset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick33 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Correct I do not really know why it did that in my case. Since I play with no issues with default settings, I do not really bother changing anything in there. I just go by the rule of do not fix it if not broken for now.I guess there is a reason it is only accessible by editing a text file and the term is still labelled "driver_Holographic_Experimental". It seems to work well with the Reverb, maybe the Od+ has different results? AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I guess there is a reason it is only accessible by editing a text file and the term is still labelled "driver_Holographic_Experimental". It seems to work well with the Reverb, maybe the Od+ has different results? Good point! Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 i had pretty good results with it on the O+ when i had one, though i didn't leave it on Auto and forced it on SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglewings Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I will give it a try again and compare results. It can only get better for me if all goes well. There may have been other limiting factors then as I tried it on bit weaker system (laptop). Now will see how it goes with the desktop system. Windows 10 Pro 64bit|Ryzen 5600 @3.8Ghz|EVGA RTX 3070 XC3 Ultra|Corair vengence 32G DDR4 @3200mhz|MSI B550|Thrustmaster Flightstick| Virpil CM3 Throttle| Thrustmaster TFRP Rudder Pedal /Samsung Odyssey Plus Headset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) i have to say i think your 1060 is under powered to drive a Reverb though, especially in DCS. the recommended minimum graphics card is a 1080 for the reverb (https://support.hp.com/sg-en/document/c06325736) Edited March 17, 2020 by speed-of-heat SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglewings Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 i have to say i think your 1060 is under powered to drive a Reverb though, especially in DCS. the recommended minimum graphics card is a 1080 for the reverb (https://support.hp.com/sg-en/document/c06325736)I am using odyssey + now and the 1060 is holding up on average settings. The plan is to see how the new 3000 series Nvidia gpu card for the year will perform and then do an upgrade. Only then will I be looking at the Reverb. Windows 10 Pro 64bit|Ryzen 5600 @3.8Ghz|EVGA RTX 3070 XC3 Ultra|Corair vengence 32G DDR4 @3200mhz|MSI B550|Thrustmaster Flightstick| Virpil CM3 Throttle| Thrustmaster TFRP Rudder Pedal /Samsung Odyssey Plus Headset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I am using odyssey + now and the 1060 is holding up on average settings. The plan is to see how the new 3000 series Nvidia gpu card for the year will perform and then do an upgrade. Only then will I be looking at the Reverb. and you were posting it in the Reverb thread ... because ? SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglewings Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 and you were posting it in the Reverb thread ... because ?Someone mentioned that tweaking vr. Settings works generally for wmr headset. Please no intention to derail the thread guys. Windows 10 Pro 64bit|Ryzen 5600 @3.8Ghz|EVGA RTX 3070 XC3 Ultra|Corair vengence 32G DDR4 @3200mhz|MSI B550|Thrustmaster Flightstick| Virpil CM3 Throttle| Thrustmaster TFRP Rudder Pedal /Samsung Odyssey Plus Headset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiromachi Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I've got Reverb few days ago and started flying with some tweaking but feel quite confused with settings, especially since older tweaking tutorials (like: https://vr4dcs.com/2019/09/10/reverb-settings-for-dcs/) are not perfectly applicable due to changes in the SteamVR. So I'm trying to focus on SteamVr and ingame settings, but not sure whether this Reprojection still has to be enabled via file editing or perhaps it's now a default feature. AMD Ryzen 5900X @ 4.95 Ghz / Asus Crosshair VII X470 / 32 GB DDR4 3600 Mhz Cl16 / Radeon 6800XT / Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD / Creative SoundBlaster AE-9 / HP Reverb G2 / VIRPIL T-50CM / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Audio Technica ATH-MSR7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I've got Reverb few days ago and started flying with some tweaking but feel quite confused with settings, especially since older tweaking tutorials (like: https://vr4dcs.com/2019/09/10/reverb-settings-for-dcs/) are not perfectly applicable due to changes in the SteamVR. So I'm trying to focus on SteamVr and ingame settings, but not sure whether this Reprojection still has to be enabled via file editing or perhaps it's now a default feature. The main difference - in theory - is that you can now choose SteamVR or WMR to do the Motion Reprojection. I say ‘in theory’ as I can’t get it to work in SteamVR as I can’t get DCS into the application list in Video settings. The default is now ‘disabled’ in the default.settings file. The other options are the same, i.e. auto or motionprojection. If you want to try and use MP in SteamVR, then you have to comment out the relevant line in the settings file Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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