VNAO T-45 Goshawk

[Urbi]

On 9/4/2025 at 3:23 AM, cj43g3r said:

@MonmineDCS Rudel_chw is correct that there is no direct keyboard support for direct control

You might be able to use indirect control via keyboard commands for trim controls for more limited movement until you can obtain a controller.

From the mod's Input\keyboard\default.lua:

--- Control ---
{combos = {{key = '.', reformers = {'RCtrl'}}},    pressed = iCommandPlaneTrimUp,            up = iCommandPlaneTrimStop, name = _('Trim: Nose Up'),            category = _('Flight Control')},
{combos = {{key = ';', reformers = {'RCtrl'}}},    pressed = iCommandPlaneTrimDown,        up = iCommandPlaneTrimStop, name = _('Trim: Nose Down'),        category = _('Flight Control')},
{combos = {{key = ',', reformers = {'RCtrl'}}},    pressed = iCommandPlaneTrimLeft,        up = iCommandPlaneTrimStop, name = _('Trim: Left Wing Down'),    category = _('Flight Control')},
{combos = {{key = '/', reformers = {'RCtrl'}}},    pressed = iCommandPlaneTrimRight,        up = iCommandPlaneTrimStop, name = _('Trim: Right Wing Down'),    category = _('Flight Control')},

{combos = {{key = 'Z'}}, pressed = EFM_commands.KeyRudderLeft,        up = EFM_commands.KeyRudderStop, name = _('Aircraft Yaw Left'),    category = _('Flight Control')},
{combos = {{key = 'X'}}, pressed = EFM_commands.KeyRudderRight,        up = EFM_commands.KeyRudderStop, name = _('Aircraft Yaw Right'),    category = _('Flight Control')},

{combos = {{key = 'Num+'}}, pressed = EFM_commands.ThrottleIncrease,                name = _('Throttle Smoothly - Increase'),        category = {_('Throttle Grip'), _('Flight Control')}},
{combos = {{key = 'Num-'}}, pressed = EFM_commands.ThrottleDecrease,                name = _('Throttle Smoothly - Decrease'),        category = {_('Throttle Grip'), _('Flight Control')}},

 

The ones with RCtrl are combos with right ctrl key.

The throttle may be the + and - on the number pad.

 

I had no idea that the ED programmers could work magic. It also seems that no one here is aware that the standard keyboard command "RCtrl" for trimming doesn't work at all with ";". It simply doesn't work.

[CommandT]

Do we have any sort of timeline or idea at all when V1.2 might come out? This is quickly becoming one of my all time favourite aircraft in DCS!

[CommandT]

Made a little video overview of the T-45:
 

 

[Rudel_chw]

4 hours ago, CommandT said:

Made a little video overview of the T-45:

nice video, but I believe it would have been better to wait for the upcoming v1.2 before producing it.

 

 

[MigratoryBird]

I'm quite confident CommandT is going to make at least another video when v1.2 drops .  

[CommandT]

4 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

nice video, but I believe it would have been better to wait for the upcoming v1.2 before producing it.

 

 

Well I am certainly happy to make an update video on the new version when it comes. I asked above regarding a timeframe for v1.2 release and heard no response so didn't see any point in putting off making a video about the current version since I don't know if we need to wait 2 weeks or 2 years. 

[Petard]

Eagerly looking forward to v1.2 

[TonyRS]

11 hours ago, CommandT said:

Well I am certainly happy to make an update video on the new version when it comes. I asked above regarding a timeframe for v1.2 release and heard no response so didn't see any point in putting off making a video about the current version since I don't know if we need to wait 2 weeks or 2 years. 

Having seen your video and picked up on your enthusiasm for the T-45 I’ve downloaded, installed, configured it with my fav Red Arrows livery and had a go!
As you suggest, it seems to be a great two seat trainer with carrier capabilities.
So far… my only disappointment is that there is NO ability to generate COLOURED SMOKE for formation flying??? Hopefully to be added to the upcoming V1.2 ????

[Morpheus]

1 minute ago, TonyRS said:

Having seen your video and picked up on your enthusiasm for the T-45 I’ve downloaded, installed, configured it with my fav Red Arrows livery and had a go!
As you suggest, it seems to be a great two seat trainer with carrier capabilities.
So far… my only disappointment is that there is NO ability to generate COLOURED SMOKE for formation flying??? Hopefully to be added to the upcoming V1.2 ????

There is a mod for smoke 

VNAO_T45_smoke_ON_V1.0.1.zip

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

This was my favourite "tourist" aircraft before the OV-10A arrived.

One noob question: I am still learning carrier landing, on and off for some time, my only concern is, since the Goshawk does not have full radio, how would I do a CASE 1 super carrier landing?

21 minutes ago, TonyRS said:

configured it with my fav Red Arrows livery

[CommandT]

2 hours ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said:

This was my favourite "tourist" aircraft before the OV-10A arrived.

One noob question: I am still learning carrier landing, on and off for some time, my only concern is, since the Goshawk does not have full radio, how would I do a CASE 1 super carrier landing?

You can still do a case 1 recovery but to my knowledge there is no way of doing comms with the LSO. At least not in the current version. So just do it in silence. 

Also, a note to the devs: the T-45 has a yaw damper with a turn coordination function which means the aircraft in real life shouldn't require any pedal input for coordinated turns. The one in DCS requires a boot full to keep it coordinated. Whilst I appreciate the extra challenge in making the aircraft more "hands on" I hope the devs correct this to reflect real-world behaviour

Edited September 14 by CommandT

[Rudel_chw]

2 hours ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said:

One noob question: I am still learning carrier landing, on and off for some time, my only concern is, since the Goshawk does not have full radio, how would I do a CASE 1 super carrier landing?

the upcoming version 1.2 has a proper radio and so can communicate with the carrier in the same way as the f-18. Here is a recording I did while testing v1.2:

 

 

[Stratos]

Was anyone able to mod it in order to have a more Hawkish loadout? This will be the closer we will ever get to recover the Bae Hawk they've stolen from us.

[Rudel_chw]

1 hour ago, Stratos said:

they've stolen from us.

we clearly have a different meaning for the word "stolen" 

[Stratos]

1 hour ago, Rudel_chw said:

we clearly have a different meaning for the word "stolen" 

Well, I paid for the Hawk, and I cannot fly it.

[Rudel_chw]

37 minutes ago, Stratos said:

Well, I paid for the Hawk, and I cannot fly it.

 

But no one "stole" it from you, its developer went out of business. Its the same as if you purchase a new car and a few years after its maker folds, after a time you can't purchase some spare parts for it, and in the long term it stops to function, its a risk we take when we purchase things .. would you say that the car company "stole" it from you? ... if you truly believe that then you should call the police and report the theft.

[Stratos]

38 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

But no one "stole" it from you, its developer went out of business. Its the same as if you purchase a new car and a few years after its maker folds, after a time you can't purchase some spare parts for it, and in the long term it stops to function, its a risk we take when we purchase things .. would you say that the car company "stole" it from you? ... if you truly believe that then you should call the police and report the theft.

I have no idea how it works in your country, but in mine auto builders have to keep a stock of spare parts by law, so the auto industry comparison does not work.

If Ugra goes out of business today, what will you think when Syria or Germany stop to work?

 

Anyway, we should not go off topic on this threat.

Edited September 14 by Stratos

[Rudel_chw]

36 minutes ago, Stratos said:

Anyway, we should not go off topic on this threat.

 

fully agree, its just that the free use of terms like "stolen" rubs me the wrong way .. 

[TonyRS]

13 hours ago, Morpheus said:

There is a mod for smoke 

VNAO_T45_smoke_ON_V1.0.1.zip 21.63 kB · 1 download

Had no idea… Many thanks for the .zip

[TonyRS]

On 9/14/2025 at 9:44 AM, Morpheus said:

There is a mod for smoke 

VNAO_T45_smoke_ON_V1.0.1.zip 21.63 kB · 4 downloads

Thanks again... Works a treat 

[Raffi75]

20 hours ago, Stratos said:

Well, I paid for the Hawk, and I cannot fly it.

I know this might be a stupid question. Isn't it true that you can use the module on an earlier version of DCS, when it still worked? I'm curious because I have a module from RB and I don't know how long I'll be able to enjoy it. Sorry for the off-topic.

 

[Hiob]

16 minutes ago, Raffi75 said:

I know this might be a stupid question. Isn't it true that you can use the module on an earlier version of DCS, when it still worked? I'm curious because I have a module from RB and I don't know how long I'll be able to enjoy it. Sorry for the off-topic.

 

Given you have access to the older install of DCS, and as long as ED doesn't cease to support it (by means of granting online access/login), yes it is true.
But there is no guarantee for how long it will work....

[Rudel_chw]

1 hour ago, Raffi75 said:

I know this might be a stupid question. Isn't it true that you can use the module on an earlier version of DCS, when it still worked?
 

 

yes, its totally true and I intend to save a full dcs install just to run the mirage 2000 and the harrier, even if I have to purchase a second ssd drive to keep it, and freeze it to never update.

 

1 hour ago, Raffi75 said:

I'm curious because I have a module from RB and I don't know how long I'll be able to enjoy it. Sorry for the off-topic.

it can be kept for ever, but just note that whatever module or map is released after you freeze that dcs install, wont be available to run in that dcs. But I don’t mind, I intend to keep two dcs installs side by side just to be able to keep using my 3 remaining Razbam modules ( the F-15E was refunded a while back ).

[Hiob]

1 minute ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

yes, its totally true and I intend to save a full dcs install just to run the mirage 2000 and the harrier, even if I have to purchase a second ssd drive to keep it, and freeze it to never update.

 

it can be kept for ever, but just note that whatever module or map is released after you freeze that dcs install, wont be available to run in that dcs. But I don’t mind, I intend to keep two dcs installs side by side just to be able to keep using my 3 remaining Razbam modules ( the F-15E was refunded a while back ).

Same, but I'm not sure how that'll work out with the login. Do you have any experience with that? Can you keep playing offline (I mean without account login) indefinitely?

[Rudel_chw]

2 hours ago, Hiob said:

Same, but I'm not sure how that'll work out with the login. Do you have any experience with that? Can you keep playing offline (I mean without account login) indefinitely?

you use the same login on both dcs, it is not version dependant, just you cant run both dcs versions at the same time.