WINWING Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 Hang on, just to be perfectly clear. Are you saying that there is NO way to separate the panel from the throttle? Or are you saying that you can't buy the throttle without the panel? In a previous response to me you said they were separate and the throttle could be used without it. They are also clearly separate in the promo photos. If they cannot be separated (i.e. able to use the throttle without the panel physically attached) then that's going to be a very unfortunate deal-breaker for myself and I am guessing anyone else who is working on a full cockpit. Hi Andrew, The start-up panel could be separate from the throttle, and use independent. But can not sell seperated. Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullant Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Hi Andrew, The start-up panel could be separate from the throttle, and use independent. But can not sell seperated. OK thank you, back to finding the funds to purchase :) Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai, Kola, Afghanistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Hi Winwing, Really looking forward to your awesome F/A-18C Hotas System. As the comes with a take off panel, are there more panels planned? Maybe also a ftont panel with DDI's, UFC, HUD switches and Master mode buttons and Master arm switch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datajack Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I would be interested in purchasing the throttle only. Please consider selling the throttle and stick seperately. Intel i7 9700K, ASUS ROG STRIX Z390-E, Zotac GTX 2080 TI AMP, Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR4 3200mhz, Corsair H60 liquid cooler, EVGA 850W PS, Cooler Master: Master Case H500, 1 TB Samsung EVO SSD | Virpil CM2 Throttle, F-16: Thrustmaster F-16/A-10 Stick, F-18: Thrustmaster F-18 Stick | Thrustmaster TPR Pedals | G2 Reverb, J-PEIN Desk mount Throttle, VIRPIL VP-L mount Stick, Cougar MFDs, Generic Custom Built Front Panel, Left Panel and Right Panel, 32 Button Steam Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINWING Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 Hi Winwing, Really looking forward to your awesome F/A-18C Hotas System. As the comes with a take off panel, are there more panels planned? Maybe also a ftont panel with DDI's, UFC, HUD switches and Master mode buttons and Master arm switch? DDI/UFC/HUD is very very important to pilot ,even than startup and take off, we are thinking a better way ,pay the minimum but get them all. Please waiting for our good new , and, buy our HOTAS to help us develop more:megalol: Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINWING Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 I would be interested in purchasing the throttle only. Please consider selling the throttle and stick seperately. Dear Jack, the senior pilot, Thank you very much for your trust, we will see step by step after launch and review, and full HOTAS buyer first. No matter of the money, but if we consider our gimbal/GRIP are the best, it's very disappoint to see pilots prefer second one or third one which very different from us . Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandingCow Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Dear Jack, the senior pilot, Thank you very much for your trust, we will see step by step after launch and review, and full HOTAS buyer first. No matter of the money, but if we consider our gimbal/GRIP are the best, it's very disappoint to see pilots prefer second one or third one which very different from us . I think it's more a case that they already have a stick (some with more buttons) and don't NEED a new one no matter the quality. The HOTAS market is really limited on throttles though and from the looks of it yours offers more than anything else on the market, that is why some people want just the throttle. :) 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxer Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 No matter of the money, but if we consider our gimbal/GRIP are the best, it's very disappoint to see pilots prefer second one or third one which very different from us . Until you get test units out, or until retail samples are sent out and the first users get direct experience and post feedback on forums like this one people will not understand or trust your claims of quality difference between your gimbal and others. Part of it, is that Winwing has no track record in the "gamer / SIM" community. (I understand you do in the professional SIM pit market, flight training school and this counts a great deal to me, but I am not sure the average user will care until it is reviewed by someone they "know" or have heard of). Also it is far easier to be trusting on a spend of $200 than on a spend of $800. This is a big chunk of cash for most people and not something you would throw away on a speculative consumable. I am not saying any of this to be disrespectful or negative. Just that you need to build your reputation with a new community into a slightly different consumer / prosumer market to the one in which you've been operating currently. If you have a great product, DCS players will wake up and take notice.. trust me! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicka117 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Hey Winwing, any pictures of possible extensions you can offer. Around 100mm is a popular length. Will that length make the travel and range of movement too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINWING Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) I think it's more a case that they already have a stick (some with more buttons) and don't NEED a new one no matter the quality. The HOTAS market is really limited on throttles though and from the looks of it yours offers more than anything else on the market, that is why some people want just the throttle. :) hello, Yes, so I always say let's waiting and see after review, it's another same gimbal/joystick or something new like our throttle. Truth be told I'm not sure, because I'm not pilot like you. Edited June 13, 2019 by WINWING Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINWING Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 Until you get test units out, or until retail samples are sent out and the first users get direct experience and post feedback on forums like this one people will not understand or trust your claims of quality difference between your gimbal and others. Part of it, is that Winwing has no track record in the "gamer / SIM" community. (I understand you do in the professional SIM pit market, flight training school and this counts a great deal to me, but I am not sure the average user will care until it is reviewed by someone they "know" or have heard of). Also it is far easier to be trusting on a spend of $200 than on a spend of $800. This is a big chunk of cash for most people and not something you would throw away on a speculative consumable. I am not saying any of this to be disrespectful or negative. Just that you need to build your reputation with a new community into a slightly different consumer / prosumer market to the one in which you've been operating currently. If you have a great product, DCS players will wake up and take notice.. trust me! Dear Milou, Absolutely right. So I'm not hurry for take money or other even lot of pilots ask, thanks for you all, but let's wait and see until launch event and pilots' review. Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINWING Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 Hey Winwing, any pictures of possible extensions you can offer. Around 100mm is a popular length. Will that length make the travel and range of movement too much? Of course yes, please waiting for more release. Websit:http://WWW.WINWING.CN FULL METAL F/A-18 HOTAS MANUFACTURER (Include F18 Joystick/Throttle/Grip/Panels) FACEBOOK GROUP:https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ OFFICIAL FACEBOOK :https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcat Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 The internet site doesnt work any more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxer Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 The internet site doesnt work any more? I just checked for you: it is working for me. Try again, otherwise the problem is your end. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansangb Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) I just checked 1915 hrs Eastern US. And the website is down. The server is up, but it's not accepting any new TCP connections. Could be the giant FW that's not allowing connections or the web server itself is down for maintenance. So the server is up, but not listening on port 80. Edited June 17, 2019 by hansangb hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absolut79 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Any real pictures of final product ? i7 8700K | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB| Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 7 | MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti GAMING X TRIO | Samsung 960 PRO Series - 512GB PCIe NVMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintifaxl Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 There is a youtube video showing the prototype stick and throttle. First post in here. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=235433 Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullant Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 There is a youtube video showing the prototype stick and throttle. First post in here. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=235433 Video doesn't play for me. Considering it is a week until pre-orders open, I really hope we are going to see a review from a couple of trusted DCS reviewers before then. Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai, Kola, Afghanistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramstein Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 no play for me either, tried MS and Chrome both.... just error ASUS Strix Z790-H, i9-13900, WartHog HOTAS and MFG Crosswind G.Skill 64 GB Ram, 2TB SSD EVGA Nvidia RTX 2080-TI 55" Sony OLED TV, Oculus VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxer Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 It is old news, but if it is new to you just look here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrfUSM_r82yBrMreUus0Cdw [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansangb Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 no play for me either, tried MS and Chrome both.... just error click the link, not the embedded video. I'm not sure of the timing, but I do know of one person who's review would matter a lot. I'm sure there are others, but I just know of the one. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullant Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 It is old news, but if it is new to you just look here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrfUSM_r82yBrMreUus0Cdw Thanks for that ... I just spent 5 minutes watching the throttle video on loop. Damn sexy. Looks like the stick has quite a long throw on it as well, so no need for extensions. If you want someone to review one for you, I live in northern Australia, which is close to China :) Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai, Kola, Afghanistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davee Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 On their website the desktop clamping system looks very flimsy. I don't think it will hold up. It is different that the robust ones shown in their videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 In the video, it didn't look like he had to raise the finger lifts to go in the afterburner portion. Or am I just seeing it wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullant Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 In the video, it didn't look like he had to raise the finger lifts to go in the afterburner portion. Or am I just seeing it wrong That's correct. The finger lifts are only for getting in/out of idle. If you look closely you will see that there is a push through gate for the A/B though, as it should be. Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai, Kola, Afghanistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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