ebabil Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Hi guys, Shkval slew with warthog ministick is pain. I tried some user curves but still tooooo fast. How can i reduce its speed? i can not slew targets properly FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaD CrC Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Which ministick? The super sensitive one on the throttle? https://www.blacksharkden.com http://discord.gg/blacksharkden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 yeah it is. i used to use ch throttle and it was fine. now i am in pain FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1966 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I tried giving it some deadzone.It helped, but not sure it is quite what I want. I just bought my Warthog about a month ago, and I am still learning and setting it up. I am considering moving it to the thumb hat it has a press function also. We are Virtual Pilots, a growing International Squad of pilots, we fly Allies in WWII and Red Force in Korea and Modern combat. We are recruiting like minded people of all Nationalities and skill levels. http://virtual-pilots.com/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaD CrC Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Forget about this one. It's not usable really for precise slewing. I had to remove it and replace it with the https://deltasimelectronics.com/ one (form fit and function) that overcome the poor accuracy of the default one. For the Ka50, you should really use the hat on your main stick. https://www.blacksharkden.com http://discord.gg/blacksharkden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 You need to adjust the saturation (IIRC in X channel) and then apply some manual curves to make it two stepped by speed (like from first to second last as value 20 and then last two as 50 or so). Idea is that about 80-90% of the range it is slow and then in the edge of the scale you get higher speed for faster movement. i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I ended up using it for quick slewing and one of the 4-way hats for tiny adjustments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 You need to adjust the saturation (IIRC in X channel) and then apply some manual curves to make it two stepped by speed (like from first to second last as value 20 and then last two as 50 or so). Idea is that about 80-90% of the range it is slow and then in the edge of the scale you get higher speed for faster movement. Yup this. Also the deltasim upgrade is well worth it. Otherwise use the Hat to slew. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 Deltasim looks expensive just for a button. Can you share your curve settings? FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3WA Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) Deltasim looks expensive just for a button. Can you share your curve settings? WOAH! $50 for a switch?! Edited July 12, 2019 by 3WA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudabidu Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I spent hours tweaking the curves and it didn't help, but I think I figured out the problem ... which is kinda hard to explain. In short: the Shkval doesn't directly use the curves you set in the options, but has an additional layer. Around the center it has its own deadzone and beyond that it starts with a minimum speed (which is still way to fast). Hard to explain, but you can try this to see for yourself: Reset the curves and only adjust the saturation to like 70%. Now go into the sim and take note how much you have to move the stick for the Shkval to slew at all. Get back into the options and apply a curve as well. You'll have to move the stick further for the Shkval to start slewing, but when it does the speed will be the same. Makes sense? I'm using a TM Cougar and the microstick is still in almost perfect condition. Using it in any other module is perfectly smooth without adjusting the axis settings. It's not a hardware issue, it's how the Shkval slew axes are coded. Hope they finally fix that for BS3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I have it at: Deadzone 10 Sat Y 50 Curve 25 Last time I used it is a while ago though, but I settled with that. Still have it on the stick's hat as well and just a few days ago I just used that since I was used to having it that way. Totally forgot about the TMWH slew thingy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 is this issue reported so we get a slew fix with the upcoming update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I use both the warthog mini stick (upgraded) for major slews AND a hat switch for precise targeting. Sucks but its the way it is. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebabil Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 is this issue reported so we get a slew fix with the upcoming update? don't know but it should be. ıf we can slew with ministick on litening, lantirn, maverick etc. we should be able to do it also with shkval FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DowntownSIX Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 This would be a really nice quality of life upgrade for the KA-50 refresh, right now I have my saturation so low that slewing at 7x is painfully slow but at 23x it's WAY too fast. Devils Canyon i7 4790K @ 4.9GHz |16gb DDR3 | MSI GeForce GTX 1080Ti | Samsung 860 EVO Thrustmaster Warthog | Virpil WarBRD | Virpil TM-50CM2 Grip | VKB-Sim T-Rudder Mk.IV | Acer X34A (21:9) | Oculus Rift S A-10C | AJS-37 | AV-8B | C-101 | F/A-18C | F-14A/B | F-5E | KA-50 | L-39 | M-2000C | SA342 | Spitfire LF Mk IX | UH-1H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reticuli Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I ended up using it for quick slewing and one of the 4-way hats for tiny adjustments. This is exactly what I do with the X65F, and then I also use the ministick with registry hack thing when in autoturn for yaw control now with Flight Director off... more precise than my pedals and I get actual real semblance of heading hold stability, unlike the weak as heck SAS axis authority that’s practically useless. I find my right thumb on the stick hat and the pickle button can work the optics just fine for slow stuff, even though it's still not as precise for locking onto an adversary Cobra as I'd like. X65 and X52, Glide, Winx3D, and GlovePIE Profiles http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=reticuli&CatID=miscmisc http://library.avsim.net/register.php X52 + Silicone Grease = JOY stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Donkey Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 The HAT switch works fine and fast. I later did get the 50$ Ministick Switch. And its much better for all aircrafts, but I still use the HAT switch for the Shkval, as it works super. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennoxonnell Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I use the slew sensor for speed scanning and I have my trim hat bound as the slew as well for when i need to be precise and lock something up. Ryzen 1700 @ 3.7ghz | GTX 960 | 16gb Crucial Ballistix F/A-18C | Ka-50 | FC3 | A-10C | P-51D | UH-1H Youtube Channel [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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