New RTX 2080, very poor performance

[Wizard1393]

So here goes. Just exchanged my old GX 980 to an RTX 2080.

I'm getting WORSE performance in games with the 2080.

 

DCS is like giving me 60% of what it used to with my old 980.

 

Where i would see 60-70 FPS with the GTX980, I now see 30-40 with the 2080.

GPU shows 100% in windows task manager, and thats in just 1080p and not at all maxed out settings.

 

Help! What could be wrong?

[Svsmokey]

Did you use DDU to remove your old drivers ?

[Wizard1393]

No. Whats that?

 

EDIT: Ok Display Driver Uninstaller. I'll give that a try.

Edited July 15, 2019 by chrisofsweden

[Svsmokey]

It is a free downloadable utility that will clear the old graphics card drivers . THEN install the new ones . There have been two changes in architecture between the 970 and 2080 . Be sure and follow instructions regarding booting in safe mode to install new drivers . Also , visit Nvidea for latest updates after new driver installation .

[Wizard1393]

Thanks for the tip. I disabled my NIC, rebooted to safe mode and ran DDU clean and then shutdown. Started up, installed latest drivers, same result :( :( :( Did I just waste $730 on a graphics card??? How is it even possible that I get MUCH worse performance with a 2080 over a 980??? Heeeeeeelp!

[Svsmokey]

Are you certain you installed the card in a pcie×16 slot ? Double-check power connectors ?

[petsild]

Under load the GPU core clock MHz?

[SnapRoll]

Have you deleted your fxo and matashaders2 folder in your saved games?

Have you checked other games?

[veenee]

as above - what about other games? do they also struggle or is it just DCS?

 

have you ever made changes in your BIOS? perhaps loading default values or updating it would make sense?

[tintifaxl]

Thanks for the tip. I disabled my NIC, rebooted to safe mode and ran DDU clean and then shutdown. Started up, installed latest drivers, same result :( :( :( Did I just waste $730 on a graphics card??? How is it even possible that I get MUCH worse performance with a 2080 over a 980??? Heeeeeeelp!

 

This is not normal behavior for a RTX 2080 (i used to have one and it ran DSC great @1440p) - there is something very wrong...

[Wizard1393]

Under load the GPU core clock MHz?

 

How do I check that? Does this tell you something? Is my card only running at 300Mhz??? Volt is also showing 0?

Edited July 15, 2019 by chrisofsweden

[NineLine]

You need to give your other specs, you could be bottlenecked somewhere else.

[Wizard1393]

You need to give your other specs, you could be bottlenecked somewhere else.

 

This is not a DCS issue. All games affected. And still, getting worse performance than my old card in all games. So it's not bottleneck.

[NineLine]

This is not a DCS issue. All games affected. And still, getting worse performance than my old card in all games. So it's not bottleneck.

 

The point is that if the rest of your computer is old, such as the processor and MB, you could be limiting what you will see with your 2080.

[Jabbers_]

Typically when installing new nvidia drivers sometimes the nvidia power profile setting gets set to adaptive instead of performance. See here https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3130/~/setting-power-management-mode-from-adaptive-to-maximum-performance See if that helps.

[GooseAviation]

Maybe check that you're not using your dedicated graphics. Just a thought, could easily be wrong

-Goose

[petsild]

How do I check that? Does this tell you something? Is my card only running at 300Mhz??? Volt is also showing 0?

MSI Afterburner is the best tool you can view the log history of all the important data.

[Secoda]

Install and run a benchmark on the rtx2080. There are many. Now I overclock the heck out of mine and it is a ASUS ROG Strix RTX2080 OC which benched the best of the pack stock.

Edited July 15, 2019 by Secoda

[Evader]

Try running the OC (Overclock Scan in the upper left of MSI Afterburner. I just now replaced my MSI 1080 Sea Hawk with a MSI 2080Ti Sea Hawk, both water cooled. My FPS may not seem very high but I run high settings and resolution of 3440x2040, I have two Lillputs for MFD's, main monitor is 3440x1440. Happy with a 50% increase!

 

Frames Time ms Min Max Avg FPS

3045, 120000, 18, 34, 25.375 MSI 1080

 

4542, 120000, 17, 47, 37.850 MSI 2080Ti

[Wizard1393]

Thanks all for the tips. However seems like something might be wrong with the card. It never adjust GPU clock speed to above 300Mhz, which means the card is performing just 20% of min capacity (1500Mhz) or 17% of max capacity (1710Mhz). My first thought after discovering this was that maybe one of the PCIe power connectors wasn't connected properly, but I've checked and double checked and they're connected properly.

[VampireNZ]

Have you tried some different power connectors from your power supply - you should have a few you can use.

But yea that 0mV is bad news - possibly a dud card. Just RMA it for a new replacement one. There has been a lot of news about the 20 series of cards crapping out, but mostly due to dud GDDR6 memory.

Edited July 16, 2019 by VampireNZ

[petsild]

Thanks all for the tips. However seems like something might be wrong with the card. It never adjust GPU clock speed to above 300Mhz, which means the card is performing just 20% of min capacity (1500Mhz) or 17% of max capacity (1710Mhz). My first thought after discovering this was that maybe one of the PCIe power connectors wasn't connected properly, but I've checked and double checked and they're connected properly.

Very strange your graphics works for 2D frequency. It shows 0 mV is fine, the condition is unlock voltage monitoring, I'd now rather not do that.

 

Show more: dxdiag.txt?

[Wexler]

Start with BIOS. (press DEL at computer start-up). Dont change anything you dont understand and don´t forget to save settings. Maybe you discover something here.

 

Also what is your PSU (Power supply - wattage) ? And are you sure you can manage cooling of the beast? This behaviour I have mostly seen when cooling wasnt enough. Check ventilators, Vacuum the case etc. In your case I would say problem with PSU, maybe non-functional cabels, or jsut too low wattage?

Edited July 16, 2019 by Wexler

[Wizard1393]

Try running the OC (Overclock Scan in the upper left of MSI Afterburner. I just now replaced my MSI 1080 Sea Hawk with a MSI 2080Ti Sea Hawk, both water cooled. My FPS may not seem very high but I run high settings and resolution of 3440x2040, I have two Lillputs for MFD's, main monitor is 3440x1440. Happy with a 50% increase!

 

Frames Time ms Min Max Avg FPS

3045, 120000, 18, 34, 25.375 MSI 1080

 

4542, 120000, 17, 47, 37.850 MSI 2080Ti

 

Yeah, I'm getting 29FPS in a simple free flight mission running mid gfx settings on a single 1080P output. Where my old GTX 980 would give me 60-70 FPS.

[Wizard1393]

Very strange your graphics works for 2D frequency. It shows 0 mV is fine, the condition is unlock voltage monitoring, I'd now rather not do that.

 

Show more: dxdiag.txt?

 

Yeah I found that late last night and tried it and the voltage meter showed proper values. Problem still persists though.