vctpil Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Hi, The aircraft is equiped with AGM-65E and LGB-12. If I fire the MAV first, the LGB completely the target (see screenshot, the LGB if dropped just over the target!). If I drop the LGB first, the MAV will completely missed the target as well. For each attack, I have reset the TGP and undesignate the target. Any idea about the problem ? Thanks. IAMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12x 3.7 to 4.8Ghz - 32Go DDR4 3600Mhz - GeForce RTX 3080 - Samsung Odyssey G7 QLED - AIMXY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tholozor Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 You have a DUD cue in the HUD, that tells me that something wasn't set up correctly in the Stores page. Do you have a track file? Sometimes I've seen LGB laser codes getting cleared out after firing Mavericks. REAPER 51 | Tholozor VFA-136 (c.2007): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3305981/ Arleigh Burke Destroyer Pack (2020): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3313752/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vctpil Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share Posted August 19, 2019 Hi, The DUD cue appears because the flight path is slightly under the level flight. This is a bug, apparently know. See this video I double check the laser code, and it was the same and currently used. IAMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12x 3.7 to 4.8Ghz - 32Go DDR4 3600Mhz - GeForce RTX 3080 - Samsung Odyssey G7 QLED - AIMXY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tholozor Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 (edited) You sure about that? Fired off a Laser Maverick, hit a target, undesignated, new target, redesignated, switched to GBU-12, and no DUD with the launch cue. LGB tracked and hit another target just fine. All targets were designated only with the TGP, WPDSG was not used. Edited August 19, 2019 by Tholozor REAPER 51 | Tholozor VFA-136 (c.2007): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3305981/ Arleigh Burke Destroyer Pack (2020): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3313752/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 No issues with LMAVs and GBU-12s for me. The DUD bug is probably related to that https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=247779 The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vctpil Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share Posted August 19, 2019 You sure about that? Yes, I am! I try again at lower altitude (18000ft instead of 24000feet) and now the LGB does react to the laser point. This should the high altitude laser bug, but also the AUTO bomb to Lightening marked target depends on elev of selected WP. IAMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12x 3.7 to 4.8Ghz - 32Go DDR4 3600Mhz - GeForce RTX 3080 - Samsung Odyssey G7 QLED - AIMXY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tholozor Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 (edited) Elevation of a selected waypoint would only matter if you were designating a waypoint for weapon release cues. If you're designating with the targeting pod that shouldn't be an issue. I'll look again at higher altitudes, but I've never had a problem with LGBs in that way. Regardless, still no issues for me with LMAVs and LGBs. Edited August 19, 2019 by Tholozor REAPER 51 | Tholozor VFA-136 (c.2007): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3305981/ Arleigh Burke Destroyer Pack (2020): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3313752/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Elevation of a selected waypoint would only matter if you were designating a waypoint for weapon release cues. If you're designating with the targeting pod that shouldn't be an issue.It's a current bug. The AUTO cue will calculate based on the elevation of the currently selected waypoint, even if you don't use WPDSG and you designate a target with the TGP The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tholozor Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Interesting, has anyone determined at which altitude at which the problem manifests? REAPER 51 | Tholozor VFA-136 (c.2007): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3305981/ Arleigh Burke Destroyer Pack (2020): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3313752/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vctpil Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share Posted August 19, 2019 Work at 18000ft, not at 24000ft. IAMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12x 3.7 to 4.8Ghz - 32Go DDR4 3600Mhz - GeForce RTX 3080 - Samsung Odyssey G7 QLED - AIMXY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Interesting, has anyone determined at which altitude at which the problem manifests?I guess at any altitude. If your selected waypoint's elevation is above the ground elevation of your target, the AUTO cue is going to be off. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drac Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 My target was at 8000 ft but the waypoint was 2000 feet, thus the miss in Auto Mode. Flown missions with no waypoints and all is good using GBU-12s. I saw somewhere DCS is aware of the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Why would you need a combination of both anyway? if my mission is to take out a target that can potentially fire back at me I'd take it out with AGM 65F's first to suppress the air defenses and then use MK82's CCIP to destroy the rest. Less weapons management that way. What you're trying to do is manage both systems one after another as you're closing in on a target which is fine..... If it can't fire back at you but if it can then it's too much. I'm not even sure a real pilot would choose that combo of ordnance just to keep the workload to a minimum. MB: MPG Z790 EDGE WIFI Memory: WD Black SN850X 2TB PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 CPU: Intel Core i9-14900K Desktop Processor 24 cores (8P+16E) 36M Cache EVGA 1200W Gold PSU MSI RTX 3090 TrackIR on Samsung 49 inch Odyssey Widescreen No money in my pocket lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subferro Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Maybe check out some actual deployment photos before arguing that. Plenty of evidence of F-18s packing combinations of smart bombs and Mavericks in one loadout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones1775 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Why would you need a combination of both anyway? probably the same reason these guys do, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Maybe check out some actual deployment photos before arguing that. Plenty of evidence of F-18s packing combinations of smart bombs and Mavericks in one loadout. Maybe read what I posted before assuming I'm stating a fact. I said; "I'm not even sure" not; "I definitely know" MB: MPG Z790 EDGE WIFI Memory: WD Black SN850X 2TB PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 CPU: Intel Core i9-14900K Desktop Processor 24 cores (8P+16E) 36M Cache EVGA 1200W Gold PSU MSI RTX 3090 TrackIR on Samsung 49 inch Odyssey Widescreen No money in my pocket lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Why would you need a combination of both anyway? if my mission is to take out a target that can potentially fire back at me I'd take it out with AGM 65F's first to suppress the air defenses and then use MK82's CCIP to destroy the rest. Less weapons management that way. What you're trying to do is manage both systems one after another as you're closing in on a target which is fine..... If it can't fire back at you but if it can then it's too much. I'm not even sure a real pilot would choose that combo of ordnance just to keep the workload to a minimum. Uhm, I also like that loadout, especially if I'm going into a target area with both RDR and IR SAMs, so that I can kill the RDR SAM using the AGM-65 and then go ahead and kill the IR SAMs using LGBs. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vctpil Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 For training! IAMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12x 3.7 to 4.8Ghz - 32Go DDR4 3600Mhz - GeForce RTX 3080 - Samsung Odyssey G7 QLED - AIMXY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mule Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) probably the same reason these guys do, Now that's some flexibility. I recently heard them discuss these types of load-outs on the Fighter Pilot Podcast. This would be a typical load-out on operations in Afganistan. They go into some detail as to why and it makes perfect sense. Great pic. Edited August 20, 2019 by Mule Fighter Pilot Podcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 The real question is, do you want to disable your TGP HOTAS commands or not? As soon as you just bring the Mavs you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosmonkey Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 The real question is, do you want to disable your TGP HOTAS commands or not? As soon as you just bring the Mavs you do. I believe as soon as you select the mavs you do. As far as I know you can find and designate a target before selecting the maverick and HOTAS commands will work fine. A bit counter intuitive, why the Navy would have it setup this way is another question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeroamer Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Just use LMAV.. I doubt Infrared mavericks get much use unless it's for light anti-shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosmonkey Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Just use LMAV.. I doubt Infrared mavericks get much use unless it's for light anti-shipping. I believe it works the same with the LMAV at the moment. There is some discussion as to whether that should be the case but I don't believe it has been changed yet unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziptie Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) MAV or LGB, we have to choose ! Hi, The aircraft is equiped with AGM-65E and LGB-12. If I fire the MAV first, the LGB completely the target (see screenshot, the LGB if dropped just over the target!). If I drop the LGB first, the MAV will completely missed the target as well. For each attack, I have reset the TGP and undesignate the target. Any idea about the problem ? Thanks. Try doing everything the same as you did when you got these pictures - EXCEPT PRIOR to finding and designating your target with the Tpod - uncheck the waypoint OSB on your AMPCD (lower/middle sceeen) so W4 is no longer shown on your HUD. After finding your target and designating it with the TDC depress, it should then show range to target (rather than range to waypoint). Should be able to get LGBs onto your intended target by doing those two things different. Cheers, Don Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited August 21, 2019 by Ziptie i7 6700 @4ghz, 32GB HyperX Fury ddr4-2133 ram, GTX980, Oculus Rift CV1, 2x1TB SSD drives (one solely for DCS OpenBeta standalone) Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs Airframes: A10C, A10CII, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-16C, UH=1H, FC3. Modules: Combined Arms, Supercarrier. Terrains: Persian Gulf, Nevada NTTR, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle7907 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) MAV or LGB, we have to choose ! Disregard. I was wrong. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Edited August 21, 2019 by Eagle7907 Win 10, AMD FX9590/water cooled, 32GB RAM, 250GB SSD system, 1TB SSD (DCS installed), 2TB HD, Warthog HOTAS, MFG rudders, Track IR 5, LG Ultrawide, Logitech Speakers w/sub, Fans, Case, cell phone, wallet, keys.....printer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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