Mustang Posted August 29, 2019 Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) Has anyone else noticed black sparkly/shimmering textures on objects recently? I've been trying to pin down what might be causing this, I managed to snag a videoclip of it happening on the F-18 along the dorsal of the aircraft, it seems to vary depending on time of day/sun angle. EDIT: uploaded a 2nd video with the F-14B demonstrating the problem with the effect being even more pronounced. nZontY_p9pM eXopMAqCwns Edited August 29, 2019 by Mustang
Mustang Posted August 29, 2019 Author Posted August 29, 2019 Bumping thread for awareness, uploaded higher resolution video showing steps to reproduce bug from mission editor (set time to 12:00 so sun is overhead) XKBpKn82nDE
MonnieRock Posted August 29, 2019 Posted August 29, 2019 Mustang, Yes, I have seen this too Happy Simming, Monnie Rack Rig: Rosewill RSV-L4000 | Koolance ERM-3K3UC | Xeon E5-1680 v2 @ 4.9ghz w/EK Monoblock | Asus Rampage IV Black Edition | 64GB 2133mhz | SLI TitanXP w/ EK Waterblocks | 2x Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB | Seasonic 1000w Titanium | Windows 10 Pro 64bit | TM Warthog HOTAS w/40cm Extension | MFG Crosswind Rudders | Obutto R3volution | HP Reverb
Mustang Posted August 29, 2019 Author Posted August 29, 2019 Mustang, Yes, I have seen this too Happy Simming, Monnie Thank goodness, been thinking it's a driver problem or even my card playing up, cheers for verifying :thumbup:
Mustang Posted October 5, 2019 Author Posted October 5, 2019 Still an ongoing issue, however I've discovered that if I disable in game MSAA completely the black sparkly glitches go away so it is somehow related to this.
Hydrox Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 Same here, I wouldn't wait a fix in near future...
will- Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 also the black flickering that happens in game i believe the is more a nvidia issue, as this happens in other games aswell. the texture issue has been in game for a long time. just stating this as when i see "this wont get fixed" etc is really not a ED issue. Intel i9-9900K 32GB DDR4, RTX 2080tiftw3, Windows 10, 1tb 970 M2, TM Warthog, 4k 144hz HDR g-sync.
Hydrox Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 also the black flickering that happens in game i believe the is more a nvidia issue, as this happens in other games aswell. the texture issue has been in game for a long time. just stating this as when i see "this wont get fixed" etc is really not a ED issue. Do you also know why it affects only PG map?
Bagpipe Posted November 16, 2019 Posted November 16, 2019 I had a similar issue which i discovered to be z-fighting between textures. seems its an issue with cards when set to AF 16x and MSAA 4x. If you have max settings it is likely you have them set to this so bringing the AF down to 8x helped me though this was a few months back. I now have AF 16x, MSAA 2x in game and MSAA 8x Enhanced application in Nvidia CP. this does not encounter the issue either
Hydrox Posted November 16, 2019 Posted November 16, 2019 I had a similar issue which i discovered to be z-fighting between textures. seems its an issue with cards when set to AF 16x and MSAA 4x. If you have max settings it is likely you have them set to this so bringing the AF down to 8x helped me though this was a few months back. I now have AF 16x, MSAA 2x in game and MSAA 8x Enhanced application in Nvidia CP. this does not encounter the issue either Caucasus = no issue, Nevada = no issue Gulf = ISSUE = game issue NVIDIAs issue? Not likely. Also don't bother with NVIDIAs AA & AF settings, they have no effect in DCS, never have.
Bagpipe Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 You have to set AA in game and use enhance application, i can positively assure you they make a massive impact as just changed from override to enhance mode couple days ago and my DCS looks amazing right now. The advice i gave is what fixed it for me and i am not experiencing the issues you are so it cannot be a DCS problem surely?
Bagpipe Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 Hey you know, i take that back, just noticed it on carrier takeoff mission in the PG, Black texture/aliasing issues on the wings at certain angles. Really weird. Also have issues with water reflections which looks similar, seen on magnum force mission but will report on seperate thread as may be seperate issue
Mustang Posted November 18, 2019 Author Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) MFAA is known to cause graphical issues in DCS, example https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3579833&postcount=24 Edited November 18, 2019 by Mustang
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 Graphic glitches in 3d model? At certain angles and time of the day (it happens much more the higher the sun in the sky and much less at dawn/dusk, although it still happening), the surface of the plane seems to have some big graphic glitches/corruptions. I have only tested in PG map, will confirm later other maps...here are some examples: Also, from the cockpit, I see an odd line over the LEX that changesas I move the camera or the plane, guess is the same issue just not as severe at that time of day: Is someone else experiencing this with the jf-17?...Im not sure if I should consider it a bug before confirming this. To see the issue, just set time at 11:00 and in the f2 view move the camera and the plane from different angles. thanks! Take a look at my MODS here
Nealius Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 I saw the same in ModelViewer while adjusting the ToD slider.
mseraser Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 It's a global problem appear on all aircraft, could be something about shadow bias, since it's only show while the sun shot direct overhead.
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 I saw the same in ModelViewer while adjusting the ToD slider. good to know, thanks! It's a global problem appear on all aircraft, could be something about shadow bias, since it's only show while the sun shot direct overhead. I remember watching this on the hornet some time ago, but it was way less pronunciated and haven't seen it in a while...howver in the jf-17 it is quite extreme and noticeable. Hope Deka or ED take this into account and solve this issue asap because as seen in the screens it is really visible. Take a look at my MODS here
will- Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 hornet, 16 all have this effect. Intel i9-9900K 32GB DDR4, RTX 2080tiftw3, Windows 10, 1tb 970 M2, TM Warthog, 4k 144hz HDR g-sync.
Kumabit Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 This issue has been found on several models, such as F-18 and F-16
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Yes, I have just tested with the Hornet and same thing happened, as strongly as with the thunder or even more...so ED bug I guess. Take a look at my MODS here
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 Aircrafts models graphic glitches/corruptions At certain angles and espacially at noon, there are some severe graphical issues with most (if not all) aircrafts models in the game...as an example here is what can be seen: Take a look at my MODS here
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted December 11, 2019 ED Team Posted December 11, 2019 Please remove all unofficial modifications and run a cleanup and repair, if you can then reproduce attach your dcs log it may show us some clues. thanks. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) thanks! I removed all mods and made a repair, can't cleanup files because due to install size I have all my skins in the main dcs folder and the cleanup wants to remove all of them so not an option for me. Anyway they were just skin textures what the cleanup wanted to remove. Also removed Reshade. The issue persist. Anyway, I'm not the only one with this problem, other people even report to have the issue in the model viewer so is not just an isolated problem, in case you are wondering. I even posted about this thinking that it was an issue only with the jf-17 but it happens with every single aircraft, take a look here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=257548 hope it is useful.dcs.rar Edited December 12, 2019 by watermanpc Take a look at my MODS here
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted December 12, 2019 Posted December 12, 2019 Guys, just created a post in the general DCS bugs section, you might want to take a look to the post and maybe attach you logs so this can be fixed eventually. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=4137070#post4137070 Take a look at my MODS here
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 any news on this? thanks! Take a look at my MODS here
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