Hummingbird Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 Any news on this project? Is it going to enter further development immediately following F-16 EA or?
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted September 5, 2019 ED Team Posted September 5, 2019 Hi Hummingbird, It is still in ED's development list, but we do not have any news or time scales to share currently. Thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
QuiGon Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 AFAIK the F-4E is supposed to follow the Mi-24, which itself is supposed to follow the F-16. But as you know: Plans are always subject to change. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
SgtPappy Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 Darn, I suppose any timeframe guess is just speculation right now... I have my fingers crossed!
Rudel_chw Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 Darn, I suppose any timeframe guess is just speculation right now... I have my fingers crossed! Try purchasing the Tomcat jnstead, if you dont load the Phoenix it is pretty similar to the Phantom, except for the swing wings :) For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
QuiGon Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 Try purchasing the Tomcat jnstead, if you dont load the Phoenix it is pretty similar to the Phantom, except for the swing wings :) And it has no Mavericks or ARMs. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Knock-Knock Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 Well the good news is, that the development pace of the F-16 appears to be fast, so even though the F-4 is down the queue, it might arrive sooner than we fear. - Jack of many DCS modules, master of none. - Personal wishlist: F-15A, F-4S Phantom II, JAS 39A Gripen, SAAB 35 Draken, F-104 Starfighter, Panavia Tornado IDS. | Windows 11 | i5-12400 | 64Gb DDR4 | RTX 3080 | 2x M.2 | 27" 1440p | Rift CV1 | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind pedals |
QuiGon Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) Well the good news is, that the development pace of the F-16 appears to be fast, so even though the F-4 is down the queue, it might arrive sooner than we fear. I wouldn't be so optimistic here, because the reason why the F-16 is comming along so fast is that it shares a lot of tech with the F/A-18 and hence can reuse a lot of code from the F/A-18. The F-4E on the other hand, with all its raw and analogue technology, will requie a lot of new code to be written. Also there's the whole crewmember AI thing that needs to be done. Edited September 6, 2019 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
AeriaGloria Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 Hopefully it will be able to use code from the Mi-24 AI, and benefit from the recently redone sparrows Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com
Knock-Knock Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 I wouldn't be so optimistic here, because the reason why the F-16 is comming along so fast is that it shares a lot of tech with the F/A-18 and hence can reuse a lot of code from the F/A-18. The F-4E on the other hand, with all its raw and analogue technology, will requie a lot of new code to be written. Also there's the whole crewmember AI thing that needs to be done. Well no, but its still quicker than having to reinvent the wheel again, and taking the time with F-16 as is done with the F-18. - Jack of many DCS modules, master of none. - Personal wishlist: F-15A, F-4S Phantom II, JAS 39A Gripen, SAAB 35 Draken, F-104 Starfighter, Panavia Tornado IDS. | Windows 11 | i5-12400 | 64Gb DDR4 | RTX 3080 | 2x M.2 | 27" 1440p | Rift CV1 | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind pedals |
schroedi Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 AFAIK the F-4E is supposed to follow the Mi-24, which itself is supposed to follow the F-16. But as you know: Plans are always subject to change. I remember that after the Mi-24P it's the AH-1F's turn and after that the F-4E.
QuiGon Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 I remember that after the Mi-24P it's the AH-1F's turn and after that the F-4E. Right, I forgot about the Cobra. :music_whistling: Although, I'm not really sure if the Cobra is supposed to come before the F-4E. There has not been any information or even dev updates and pictures about the Cobra unlike for the Phantom. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
MobiSev Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 wasn't BelSimTek working on the f-4 when they were acquired? maybe they still have a team working on it. Modules owned: FC3, M-2000C, Mig-21bis, F-5E, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, KA-50, Mi-8, F-14A&B, JF-17
QuiGon Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 wasn't BelSimTek working on the f-4 when they were acquired? maybe they still have a team working on it. Yes, but no, the F-4E got put on ice, when BST merged with ED, so they could put all their manpower on the F/A-18 and now F-16 and Mi-24. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
SgtPappy Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 Try purchasing the Tomcat jnstead, if you dont load the Phoenix it is pretty similar to the Phantom, except for the swing wings :) I have! And I love it, especially when I play the RIO but of course you and I both know it is about as similar to the F-4 as the 777 is to the C-17! Yes, but no, the F-4E got put on ice, when BST merged with ED, so they could put all their manpower on the F/A-18 and now F-16 and Mi-24. Is it true that separate teams work on the rotary wing aircraft and the fixed wing aircraft? I'm doing my best to grasp at every chance I can even if it's naive thinking :D
QuiGon Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 Is it true that separate teams work on the rotary wing aircraft and the fixed wing aircraft? I'm doing my best to grasp at every chance I can even if it's naive thinking :D No idea how seperated these projects are. There's also "Black Shark 3" in development. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
ebabil Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 please ED push the phantom little bit more FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
QuiGon Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 please ED push the phantom little bit more :worthy: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
TonyG Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 I wouldn't be so optimistic here, because the reason why the F-16 is comming along so fast is that it shares a lot of tech with the F/A-18 and hence can reuse a lot of code from the F/A-18. The F-4E on the other hand, with all its raw and analogue technology, will requie a lot of new code to be written. Also there's the whole crewmember AI thing that needs to be done. As such, Heatblur should just do it. All the reasons ED is quicker with the Viper align with why HB would be quicker with the Phantom. 9800X3D, MSI 5080 , G.SKILL 64GB DDR5-6000, Win 11, MSI X870, 2/4TB nVME, Quest 3, OpenHornet Pit
Wizard_03 Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 How about ED does a USAF phantom and HB does a USN phantom? :) DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer:
Hummingbird Posted September 7, 2019 Author Posted September 7, 2019 Hopefully the F-4E is next after the F-16, and the helis such as the Mi-24 & AH-1 hopefully have a seperate team working on them. The F-4E was already well on its way when Belsimtek merged with ED, so it shouldn't take too long to make.
Silver_Dragon Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 Hopefully the F-4E is next after the F-16, and the helis such as the Mi-24 & AH-1 hopefully have a seperate team working on them. The F-4E was already well on its way when Belsimtek merged with ED, so it shouldn't take too long to make. Remember the New Year and other Newsletter, coming F-16CM, Mi-24P, Black Shark & A-10C update. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3735501&postcount=177 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3807915&postcount=184 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3930888&postcount=198 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3931016&postcount=199 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3976923&postcount=205 F-4E and AH-1S coming later. For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
The Falcon Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 Hi Hummingbird, It is still in ED's development list, but we do not have any news or time scales to share currently. Thanks Is that list public?
Eldur Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 How about ED does a USAF phantom and HB does a USN phantom? :) How big are the differences anyway? Would make sense for one team to make both as they very much have lots of commonalities even while being different.
Akatsuki Posted September 7, 2019 Posted September 7, 2019 please ED push the phantom little bit more Yes, please. :)
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