JG27_Arklight Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 Hi All, not sure if anybody has noticed or made mention, but the latest few nvidia drivers include an option for sharpening. At its default setting, it seems to work very well. I've been using it extensively in P3D, XP and DCS with great results. Perhaps it's a placebo (not that I have any complaints with my Rift S to begin with), but VR looks much clearer to me. No performance impact and everything just looks better. Give it a shot if you haven't already :) Hope this helps Ark ------------------ Windows 10 Pro x64 9900K @ 5ghz Gigabyte Aorus Master Z390 32GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB CAS 14 EVGA RTX 2080 Ti Ultra XC2 256gb Samsung 869 Pro (Boot Drive) 1TB - Samsung 970 EVO Plus Seasoninc 1000w Titanium Ultra PSU 34" ASUS PG348
Gryzor Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 Hi All, not sure if anybody has noticed or made mention, but the latest few nvidia drivers include an option for sharpening. At its default setting, it seems to work very well. I've been using it extensively in P3D, XP and DCS with great results. Perhaps it's a placebo (not that I have any complaints with my Rift S to begin with), but VR looks much clearer to me. No performance impact and everything just looks better. Give it a shot if you haven't already :) Hope this helps I tested it but only does the sharpening in 2D mirror windows. Not in VR HMD view.
Chapa Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 The Nvidia release note says : scaling will not work with VR. (https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/441.12/441.12-win10-win8-win7-release-notes.pdf) i7 12700k, RTX 3080ti, 64GB RAM, M.2 512Go, Quest 3
dburne Posted November 10, 2019 Posted November 10, 2019 Yeah I tested with a couple of sims in VR, does not appear to have any effect that I can tell. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
JG27_Arklight Posted November 11, 2019 Author Posted November 11, 2019 Well darn. Must of been a placebo (or switching from VR and non-VR). Ark ------------------ Windows 10 Pro x64 9900K @ 5ghz Gigabyte Aorus Master Z390 32GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB CAS 14 EVGA RTX 2080 Ti Ultra XC2 256gb Samsung 869 Pro (Boot Drive) 1TB - Samsung 970 EVO Plus Seasoninc 1000w Titanium Ultra PSU 34" ASUS PG348
imacken Posted November 12, 2019 Posted November 12, 2019 The Nvidia release note says : scaling will not work with VR. (https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/441.12/441.12-win10-win8-win7-release-notes.pdf) It says scaling won't work in VR, but doesn't say anything about sharpening. Certainly works really nicely on my 4K monitor. I'll have to experiment with sharpening in VR. nVidia have previously said that all 3D settings affect VR. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Supmua Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 Nvidia Sharpening and VR Sharpening works in VR via LOD settings with NVInspector, not through this particular filter. However, you may or may not like the end results. See the discussions in Valve Index thread. PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/
Wicked.- Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 Can confirm, it works with NVInspector. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz HT Disabled, Asus RoG Strix z390E Gaming, 64GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200, Asus RoG Strix RTX2080Ti OC @ 1.9Ghz, 1TB Samsung Evo 970Pro M.2 TM Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals, Samsung 49" Curved Gaming Monitor, Samsung 50" 4KUHD TV, Acer 27" Touch Panel, CV1, Pimax 5K+, Valve Index, FSSB3 Lighting, F-16SGRH, 3 TM Cougar's and a Saitek X36 that I can't bring myself to part with.
Lange_666 Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 Can you show your NVInspector settings? I played around with them but all i got was more shimmering. Went back to default. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
boedha68 Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 Hmm... I like to know too. Seems interesting! :D Newest system: AMD 9800X3d, Kingsting 128 GBDDR5, MSI RTX 5090(ready for buying), Corsair 150 Pro, 3xSamsung 970 Pro, Logitech X-56 HOTAS, Pimax Crystal Light (Super is purchased) ASUS 1200 Watt. New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly:
fitness88 Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) Am I understanding that NVInspector allows Nvidia Control Panel [manage 3D settings] to work with Oculus Rift or Oculus S? If so which settings can be worked with and where do you get NVInspector, thanks? Nvidia claims Nvidia Control Panel [manage 3D settings] will not work with Oculus Rift or Oculus S. Edited November 20, 2019 by fitness88
Wicked.- Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 Can you show your NVInspector settings? I played around with them but all i got was more shimmering. Went back to default. I set the negative LOD for both options at -1.375. I did notice sharpening and so far no extra shimmering. As far as the rest of the settings, it's pretty vanilla but I'll post a SS tomorrow. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz HT Disabled, Asus RoG Strix z390E Gaming, 64GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200, Asus RoG Strix RTX2080Ti OC @ 1.9Ghz, 1TB Samsung Evo 970Pro M.2 TM Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals, Samsung 49" Curved Gaming Monitor, Samsung 50" 4KUHD TV, Acer 27" Touch Panel, CV1, Pimax 5K+, Valve Index, FSSB3 Lighting, F-16SGRH, 3 TM Cougar's and a Saitek X36 that I can't bring myself to part with.
freehand Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 I set the negative LOD for both options at -1.375. I did notice sharpening and so far no extra shimmering. As far as the rest of the settings, it's pretty vanilla but I'll post a SS tomorrow. Hi Wicked I see you have owned many VR sets you find the index best all rounder or just for DCS. Cheers Jamie.
Lange_666 Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 where do you get NVInspector, thanks? nVidia Inspector just shows data from your graphics card and and an overclocking part. You need nVidia Profile Inspector. Link: nVidia Profile Inspector Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
boedha68 Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 I set the negative LOD for both options at -1.375. I did notice sharpening and so far no extra shimmering. As far as the rest of the settings, it's pretty vanilla but I'll post a SS tomorrow. Can't wait :D nVidia Inspector just shows data from your graphics card and and an overclocking part. You need nVidia Profile Inspector. Link: nVidia Profile Inspector Let us know wich things to set please. :D Thank you both in advance. Newest system: AMD 9800X3d, Kingsting 128 GBDDR5, MSI RTX 5090(ready for buying), Corsair 150 Pro, 3xSamsung 970 Pro, Logitech X-56 HOTAS, Pimax Crystal Light (Super is purchased) ASUS 1200 Watt. New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly:
VirusAM Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 Can't wait :D Let us know wich things to set please. :D Thank you both in advance.Is it possible to have a guide for using it? Thanks R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 N/A Realsimulator FFSB MKII Ultra, VKB Stecs Max, Winwing F-16EX Throttle, Winwing Orion (Skywalker) Pedals, Razer Tartarus V2 SpeedMaster Flight Seat, JetSeat
fitness88 Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 nVidia Inspector just shows data from your graphics card and and an overclocking part. You need nVidia Profile Inspector. Link: nVidia Profile Inspector Thanks!
Wicked.- Posted November 21, 2019 Posted November 21, 2019 Hi Wicked I see you have owned many VR sets you find the index best all rounder or just for DCS. Cheers Jamie. It's the best for me. My IPD is 58 which excludes the S and Reverb. I've tried both and I was not impressed with the S other than to say it's much clearer than the CV1. I started with the CV1 and love the catchers mask style mounting. The S uses the Halo style mount which tends to not sit flush on my face. The CV1 had excellent speakers, the S speakers are crap. It does have a jack for a headset or use one connected to your computer. The problem is, it's awkward with the Halo. However, for $400 out the door, if you can wear it, it's got good visuals and Oculus software. The Reverb has the clearest image of all. It also has the narrowest FOV and a big heavy cable that's awkward. It has a higher resolution (pixel count) than the others and doesn't need a lot if any super sampling to look great. However my experience with it lasted until I realized the IPD would only go to 59 which left me crosseyed. I'll defer to Imaken for a more thorough review of it but he sent it back and kept the Index. I don't even want to discuss the Pimax. I've seen many posts from those that love it. For the life of me I can't understand why. The drivers absolutely suck. It IS cool to fly at 120 degrees field of view but it's a stuttering jaggy mess the whole time. I thought I was having problems with the Index overheating and sent it back for another. When that one arrived, my picture quality was shit and so was performance. I originally thought it might have been DCS but on further inspection, my motherboard was going bad. With that said, the Index is the only choice for me but not just for the IPD setting. It's a high quality piece of kit that makes all the others seem like toys and with the right settings looks amazing. It's expensive though. I could not check six with one base station so I bought another which puts it at $800 for the setup. I have no need for controllers. That isn't the only cost though. Unless you have the fastest processor and a 2080Ti, you should upgrade. The Index uses a lot of super sampling to look really good and that takes clock speed in DCS. Others get by with slower systems by lowering settings but I won't lol. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz HT Disabled, Asus RoG Strix z390E Gaming, 64GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200, Asus RoG Strix RTX2080Ti OC @ 1.9Ghz, 1TB Samsung Evo 970Pro M.2 TM Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals, Samsung 49" Curved Gaming Monitor, Samsung 50" 4KUHD TV, Acer 27" Touch Panel, CV1, Pimax 5K+, Valve Index, FSSB3 Lighting, F-16SGRH, 3 TM Cougar's and a Saitek X36 that I can't bring myself to part with.
freehand Posted November 22, 2019 Posted November 22, 2019 Thank you Wicked for taking the time with such a good reply. I have owned cv1 and now rift s the halo is really gritting my **** just can not get on with it if I shake my head feels like it's losing tracking but it isn't just wobbles. I like the idea of the index but only have a 1080ti not sure what kinda of performance I will have. I think I will try a thicker face pad on the s to stop the shaking, I liked the original cv1 for stability and comfort.
Wicked.- Posted November 22, 2019 Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) You can run the Index on a 1080Ti provided you have I would say a minimum of 4.9Ghz processor. It takes a LOT of power to run at decent frame rates and look good. Overall even if I could use the Reverb I'd choose the Index. I also have a budget that allows me to buy the fastest hardware. If you can afford the upgrades it's worth it. Right now, the only module where I'm not happy with it is the Viper. Every other module looks beautiful so hopefully as the Viper progresses they'll fix the aliasing and optimization. Lastly, I think you would be happy with the Reverb and it will easily run on a 1080Ti. My buddies run there's on regular 8Gb 1080's. Edited November 22, 2019 by Wicked.- [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz HT Disabled, Asus RoG Strix z390E Gaming, 64GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200, Asus RoG Strix RTX2080Ti OC @ 1.9Ghz, 1TB Samsung Evo 970Pro M.2 TM Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals, Samsung 49" Curved Gaming Monitor, Samsung 50" 4KUHD TV, Acer 27" Touch Panel, CV1, Pimax 5K+, Valve Index, FSSB3 Lighting, F-16SGRH, 3 TM Cougar's and a Saitek X36 that I can't bring myself to part with.
Wicked.- Posted November 23, 2019 Posted November 23, 2019 Can you show your NVInspector settings? I played around with them but all i got was more shimmering. Went back to default. Sorry it took so long to get this SS. Every time I'm on I'm flying and end up forgetting lol. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz HT Disabled, Asus RoG Strix z390E Gaming, 64GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200, Asus RoG Strix RTX2080Ti OC @ 1.9Ghz, 1TB Samsung Evo 970Pro M.2 TM Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals, Samsung 49" Curved Gaming Monitor, Samsung 50" 4KUHD TV, Acer 27" Touch Panel, CV1, Pimax 5K+, Valve Index, FSSB3 Lighting, F-16SGRH, 3 TM Cougar's and a Saitek X36 that I can't bring myself to part with.
fitness88 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 Sorry it took so long to get this SS. Every time I'm on I'm flying and end up forgetting lol. You are saying that Oculus Rift can now have the graphics manipulated by using nVidia Profile Inspector. However, using the Nvidia control panel will do nothing. Do all the nVidia Profile Inspector options work with Rift?
Lange_666 Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 Does the second LOD Bias (OGL) does something? Because that's the one for OpenGL. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
Wicked.- Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 Does the second LOD Bias (OGL) does something? Because that's the one for OpenGL. No idea, it was there so.... lol [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz HT Disabled, Asus RoG Strix z390E Gaming, 64GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200, Asus RoG Strix RTX2080Ti OC @ 1.9Ghz, 1TB Samsung Evo 970Pro M.2 TM Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals, Samsung 49" Curved Gaming Monitor, Samsung 50" 4KUHD TV, Acer 27" Touch Panel, CV1, Pimax 5K+, Valve Index, FSSB3 Lighting, F-16SGRH, 3 TM Cougar's and a Saitek X36 that I can't bring myself to part with.
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