Progress pictures on the Eurofighter Typhoon

[dave76]

well,.....is there any newes on development? there is quite silence here.........;)

[Bedouin]

2 hours ago, dave76 said:

well,.....is there any newes on development? there is quite silence here.........;)

The silence is properly because there ain't any relevant news to share  

[McCloud]

They are concentrating on the Phantom first.

[Slant]

On 4/18/2023 at 1:18 PM, Zahnatom said:

incredibly disasppointing, its been 3 months  

If this disappoints you incredibly, it is a pretty decent sign that you are not managing your expectations properly. When thinking about the EF Typhoon, think in years, not weeks or months. Patience, it will take a while to get here. Having more news doesn't make it go any faster.

[NoodI]

truegrit is working on the EF, not heatblur

 

[Rick50]

Look deep into these forums, you will see that almost all modules and maps take years to make. A few simulators in the past even took a DECADE to complete...and even then took a couple years of fixes, patches and upgrayed to make into enjoyable products. So I don't see either the Phantom or Eurodart as being "late" at all, but rather as promising projects by great teams with lots of resources that most sim devs would dream of. 

I just  look forward to the day they announce they are available to download and with only a modest number of minor bugs that will get ironed out quickly! "Rushing" development just gives a buggy mess no one can fix or enjoy: in sim releases, patience is your friend!

[AdrianL]

20 hours ago, NoodI said:

truegrit is working on the EF, not heatblur

They working on it together. See FAQ below

 

 

[NoodI]

8 hours ago, AdrianL said:

They working on it together. See FAQ below

 

 

didnt know that, thx

[JOYFUL_CLOVR]

Reply from a post on reddit asking about the Eurofighter.

[Eaglewings]

Reply from a post on reddit asking about the Eurofighter.

That is a welcomed update from the team on the Eurofighter development.
Hoping the F-4E early access release will get out of the way soon so we can start receiving more info on the eurofighter progress. Thank you for sharing this here.

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[dave76]

On 1/16/2023 at 12:21 AM, Scott-S6 said:

Yep, that sounds like "we'll have more progress to show this year" to me.

this year !!!!!!!!!!!!!! i keep my finger crossed

[Mapi]

NO "Progress pictures on the Eurofighter Typhoon" so all wrong here ! 

LOL

[JOYFUL_CLOVR]

13 hours ago, Mapi said:

NO "Progress pictures on the Eurofighter Typhoon" so all wrong here ! 

LOL

I posted a picture talking about progress, it counts

[Nedum]

On 4/29/2023 at 10:10 AM, Eaglewings said:

That is a welcomed update from the team on the Eurofighter development.
Hoping the F-4E early access release will get out of the way soon so we can start receiving more info on the eurofighter progress. Thank you for sharing this here.

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To be the devil's advocate, the interesting line is: "The Eurofighter is a key priority and foundational pillar of our roadmap to grow and develop as a company and team."

In our company, every time a "one from above" guy says such stuff we know for sure, that's only massive steam.

To grow and develop as a company and team means, there are things, nothing new, and they haven't even talked about how to merge it. They are still in the pre "discovery phase".

In short: Years (2 or more), not months. You guys shouldn't have high hopes for a release next year, and for sure not earlier. 

[Temetre]

I mean, if Heatblur (+Grit) does a good Eurofighter, then they can probably do everything. That gotta be the most challenging to create aircraft announced for DCS, by a wide margin.

Id expect at least 2 years or more. Maybe the project will even be cancelled because its just too difficult to develope the thing?

At least im gonna keep my expectations low, its too far away to get excited. And if they actually do a good EF, it would be a dream come true.

[Eaglewings]

To be the devil's advocate, the interesting line is: "The Eurofighter is a key priority and foundational pillar of our roadmap to grow and develop as a company and team."
In our company, every time a "one from above" guy says such stuff we know for sure, that's only massive steam.
To grow and develop as a company and team means, there are things, nothing new, and they haven't even talked about how to merge it. They are still in the pre "discovery phase".
In short: Years (2 or more), not months. You guys shouldn't have high hopes for a release next year, and for sure not earlier. 

To expect the eurofighter release in a few month is understating the challenges of developing a module like that. Developmental info is what I was talking about. That eases the waiting pain somewhat.

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[M1Combat]

On 4/29/2023 at 1:10 AM, Eaglewings said:

That is a welcomed update from the team on the Eurofighter development.

I mean, sure...  but why?  Did you think they just stopped and didn't tell us?  Did their lack of saying "we're still working on it we plomise" (kudo's for knowing the reference BTW) make you think they stopped?  We all know they're making progress :)...  telling us doesn't change anything.

 

On 4/29/2023 at 1:10 AM, Eaglewings said:

Hoping the F-4E early access release will get out of the way soon so we can start receiving more info on the eurofighter progress. Thank you for sharing this here.

I'm sorry but if it's an "early access" release that means they will still have tons to do with the Phantom before "actual release" :).  As much as I'm hoping for the EF...  It's my 2nd or 3rd fav jet ever...  I'm hoping they don't divert too much attention away from the Phantom too early :)...  even through the Phantom is quite a ways down the list for me.  We're talking about HB here though.  They have a pretty good reputation around these parts :).

[Toga10]

17 hours ago, M1Combat said:

 

I'm sorry but if it's an "early access" release that means they will still have tons to do with the Phantom before "actual release" :).

Yes, but it does mean they're more likely to increase the development resources of the typhoon. which if you like me and I'm sure many if us, want the Typhoon more than air itself is an exiting thing

[JOYFUL_CLOVR]

It's nice to get a good (albeit, brief) look at the bird. I really need this F4 to get released so they can focus on the real star of the show

Edited August 16, 2023 by JOYFUL_CLOVR

[Rick50]

On 5/2/2023 at 11:25 AM, Nedum said:

To be the devil's advocate, the interesting line is: "The Eurofighter is a key priority and foundational pillar of our roadmap to grow and develop as a company and team."

In our company, every time a "one from above" guy says such stuff we know for sure, that's only massive steam.

To grow and develop as a company and team means, there are things, nothing new, and they haven't even talked about how to merge it. They are still in the pre "discovery phase".

In short: Years (2 or more), not months. You guys shouldn't have high hopes for a release next year, and for sure not earlier. 

 

Sure, in "corporate world", I'd be suspecting the same thing.

But I'm guessing Heatblur and True Grit aren't really "corporate world" companies. Just a hunch. Sure, they probably are technically "corporations" meaning the legal structure meaning, so that the people, the developers, the artists and coders, the researchers and company owners, don't get completely financially WIPED OUT the first time they encounter an inevitable legal challenge to their existence. But I'm doubting they have an "accountant team", a "legal team", an "HR team", "sales and marketing team" and the like. They likely have one person doing bookkeeping and find SME's, another does coding and will send out requests for experienced coders to help with "this" and "that", a third an artist  will make it look amazing and vet people's resumes and portfolio of previous works. 

I've no idea if they have a "workplace" like a small few offices that people go to... it might be that Bob lives in Virginia, and works 8 hours an afternoon/evening on the Euro, and 6 hours during the morning doing book keeping for other companies as his "day job". Maybe Gregory  puts in a few hours in the early morning, before going to university in Heidelberg, Germany... 

Now, all that said, your estimate of 2 years or more, I agree with completely. I believe it'll take that much time to sort though the systems complexity, what things are secret and can't be shared (and how to present an alternative to the module buyers without pissing anyone off!!!). I'd be surprised to see Typhoon in the ED store before September 2026, I figure on 3 years from now.

[Zhavok]

Sorry, but three years is just nonsense. 2024, maximum 2025.

[Rick50]

 

Perhaps. But a quick look at actual first announcements, compared with actual release dates, and those not yet even released suggest that it may not be "nonsense" at all.

Add to that the Phantom being finished before they really  start heavy work on the Euro, that could mean 6 months from now all by itself. Maybe.mSure, it might be finished before my guess. Maybe. 

 

BTW: all more than 3 years:

Corsair, uncertain of exact project start as a simple search didn't offer clear indications. But great screenshots of Corsair development were shown in December 2017:

 

Kiowa OH-58D Announcement , December 11, 2019, so 3.5 years  now

 

Hornet, I think in another thread I calculated 5 years

 

Strike Eagle, a very long time. Some say they made a semi-official announcement more than a decade before it appeared. I don't know how accurate that information is, I kinda doubt they were working full steam for all that time, and don't know when they DID make it a full-progress project... but it's been certainly 3 years or more.

 

I'm guessing the complexity of systems in the Euro is on par with the Hornet and Strike Eagle, yet more complex than the Kiowa or Corsair. Certainly an additional layer of complexity is that the Eurofighter has many weapons unique to it,  not seen in any other DCS module before. ASRAAM, Meteor, Storm Shadow, Brimstone, ALARM and probably others I'm forgetting or don't know about. That all requires sourcing of data, research the data, crunch it into data relevant for DCS use, and then coding it all. For each of those missiles. Then there is the tactical datalink systems. Heat will need to figure that out too.

Edited August 19, 2023 by Rick50

[Top Jockey]

On 8/18/2023 at 11:12 AM, Zhavok said:

Sorry, but three years is just nonsense. 2024, maximum 2025.

 

I would very much like for you to be right ... however, I'm not that confident.

Take this very own thread (progress pictures) for instance - itself isn't showing that much progress, is it ?

[Rick50]

36 minutes ago, Top Jockey said:

Take this very own thread (progress pictures) for instance - itself isn't showing that much progress, is it ?

 

DashTrueGrit started this thread more than three years ago:

"Posted April 26, 2020"

[Mapi]

Yeah, so colse this thread!