Eisprinzessin Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 Hi there! As i am new to DCS i dont get the difference between the two versions. I bought it on steam because...i dont know, because i bought everything on steam. Now i saw pre-order for Syria and i am wondering why i can not use it. Is it possible to swap to non steam version since i think it has some advantages? 2nd: Is it possible for me to use open beta aswell? Specs: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900K 3.20 GHz, RAM 128 GB, Win11 Home, RTX3080Ti
LASooner Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) Yes, you can transfer from steam. Go to the Steam support forum. First stickied message. Edited July 18, 2020 by LASooner F-14B, F-16, F-18C, A-10C, F-5E, F-86, FC3, BF-109, FW-190, P-51, Spitfire, UH-1,AJS-37 Viggen, MIG-15, MIG-19, MIG-21, AV-8B Harrier, P-47D Persian Gulf, Caucuses, NTTR, Normandy, The Channel, Syria Combined Arms, WWII Assets,Super Carrier TM Warthog, Virpil VFX,BuddyFox UFC, Saitek Pro Flight quadrant & Switch Panel, Odyssey+ VR, Jet Pad w/ SSA, Voice Attack w/Viacom Pro GeForce RTX2080TI OC, Intel Core i7-7700K 4.5Ghz, 64GB DDR4, Dedicated 1TB SSD
hornblower793 Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 Hi there! As i am new to DCS i dont get the difference between the two versions. I bought it on steam because...i dont know, because i bought everything on steam. Now i saw pre-order for Syria and i am wondering why i can not use it. Is it possible to swap to non steam version since i think it has some advantages? 2nd: Is it possible for me to use open beta aswell?And yes, you can use open beta Sent from my SM-T835 using Tapatalk Windows 11 Home ¦ Z790 AORUS Elite AX motherboard ¦ i7-13700K ¦ 64GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5 memory @ 5600MHz ¦ Samsung 990 Pro 1TB SSD for OS, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB SSD for DCS ¦ MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming X Trio 24GB ¦ Virpil WarBRD base with VFX grip, Thrustmaster A10c and F/A-18 grips ¦ VKB Gunfighter Mk4 and MCG Pro ¦ Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle ¦ VKB STECS Throttle ¦ Virpil TCS rotor base with Shark and AH-64D grips ¦ MFG Crosswinds ¦ Total Controls Multi-Function Button Box ¦ Pimax Crystal
flameoutme Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 Can someone confirm that if I switch from Steam to non-steam, VR will still work fine?
Taz1004 Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 Can someone confirm that if I switch from Steam to non-steam, VR will still work fine? Yes. Just start SteamVR before launching DCS. Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass
ngreenaway Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 Yes. Just start SteamVR before launching DCS. Standalone dcs will launch steam vr on its own, no need to launch it yourself [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS: The most expensive free game you'll ever play Modules: All of them System: I9-9900k, ROG Maximus , 32gb ram, RTX2070 Founder's Edition, t16000,hotas, pedals & cougar MFD, HP Reverb 1.2, HTC VIVE
Eisprinzessin Posted July 19, 2020 Author Posted July 19, 2020 Does it make sense, switching from Steam to Standalone? Any advantages? Are the Setttings (Controler profiles) stored or do i have to make everything new from scratch? Specs: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900K 3.20 GHz, RAM 128 GB, Win11 Home, RTX3080Ti
flankerjun Posted July 19, 2020 Posted July 19, 2020 steam has much faster download speed when it comes to updates,so i choose steam version. A-10C Warthog,Flaming Cliffs 3,F-16C VIPER,F/A-18C HORNET,Super Carrier,AV-8B Night Attack V/STOL,Mi-8MTV2 Magnificent Eight,Black Shark 2,SA342 Gazelle,UH-1H Huey,Persian Gulf Map,Combined Arms Intel i7-14700KF| Colorful iGame GeForce RTX 2070 AD Special OC GDDR6 8G | Acer PREDATOR 32g DDR5 6000MHZ | MSI PRO Z790A-MAX | Kingston KC3000 1T SSD M.2 | ST 12T HDD 7200RPM | AOC 2790PQU 27'' 4K |Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog PC
Rudel_chw Posted July 19, 2020 Posted July 19, 2020 ... Now i saw pre-order for Syria and i am wondering why i can not use it. A pre-order means that you purchase the DLC before it is released ... that's why you can't use it until it does get released. Is it possible to swap to non steam version since i think it has some advantages? Yes. 2nd: Is it possible for me to use open beta aswell? Yes, but please please, do not use Openbeta if you can't later stand the inevitable bugs that it may have. Does it make sense, switching from Steam to Standalone? Any advantages? This is kind of a religious issue ... for me there are several advantages to go stand alone: - I can take advantage of Sales on the two stores, instead of just relying on Steam sales. - Sales are more frequent on ED store than on Steam. - ED Store has a reward system where you can get back 10% of each purchase. - Finally, and nost important for me, is that my purchasing dollar supports the developer more on ED store than on Steam, as the latter takes a 30% cut of every purchase. Steam has some advantages too: - Usually higher download speeds. - Easier to use file repair utility. - For international customer, the currency exchange of Steam is sometimes much better than ED store. Are the Setttings (Controler profiles) stored or do i have to make everything new from scratch? I don't really know the answr to this one, I assume that you should be able to copy the Controller configuration files from one to the other, but I have never actually tried it. Best regards, Eduardo For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
DrDetroit Posted July 19, 2020 Posted July 19, 2020 I typically purchase my modules from Steam, and then transfer module to stand alone if I want to fly the stand alone version (only because my Nevada map is on stand alone - not purchased via Steam). This way I have both if needed. However, I typically fly the Steam version, unless I need my Nevada map. I like that Steam monitors my DCS hours, as sometime it seems the pilot log isn't accurate and DL is much faster, as stated above. I just prefer the Steam interface. Anyhow, my $0.02 worth! Good day! DrDetroit
ngreenaway Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 Does it make sense, switching from Steam to Standalone? Any advantages? Are the Setttings (Controler profiles) stored or do i have to make everything new from scratch? Im sure settings port over, u can save ur controller settings ( i make backups before any updates just in case) To me, it doesn't make sense to go on steam. Im not comfortable with the monopoly valve has over video game distribution. If you go standalone, you benefit yourself as well as the devs if you plan on buying more modules. Steam takes a chunk out of the payment to the devs, so theyre better supported by you buying direct If you buy direct from ed, you earn a cumulative bonus that doesn't exist on steam. Look at the Miles program ED has....currently ive accumulated $53 worth of discount thats just waiting for the Hind to drop :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS: The most expensive free game you'll ever play Modules: All of them System: I9-9900k, ROG Maximus , 32gb ram, RTX2070 Founder's Edition, t16000,hotas, pedals & cougar MFD, HP Reverb 1.2, HTC VIVE
Notso Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) Hi there! As i am new to DCS i dont get the difference between the two versions. I bought it on steam because...i dont know, because i bought everything on steam. Now i saw pre-order for Syria and i am wondering why i can not use it. Is it possible to swap to non steam version since i think it has some advantages? 2nd: Is it possible for me to use open beta aswell? Yep, I started on Steam for the exact same reasons - because that's how I bought everything else. I eventually migrated to non-steam standalone and it seems to load slightly faster, but I have not seen a massive jump in performance. Maybe a little, but I still have to use Steam for VR since I'm using a Reverb and it requires Windows Mixed Reality to run. So maybe it would be faster if I had a different headset. Yes, you can do OB on both Steam and Stand-alone. What I like about stand-alone over Steam is it seems that you see newsletters and announcements easier and it's easier to pre-order stuff that is not available on Steam. Also, I think that stuff arrives in both Stable and OB sooner in stand-alone (SA) than it does in Steam. Overall, my experience with SA has been slightly better than running through Steam. But not significantly so. It's not night and day by any means. Also the transition was a piece of cake. It moved all my modules over from steam with no issues. Follow the instructions on the sticky and it will be easy. Oh forgot to add.... the one thing I had to do was manually copy any missions I built and control stick profile settings from the steam directory to the standalone directory. So make sure to copy anything over you want to keep before deleting the Steam files. Or just keep the Steam directory, it won't hurt it to stay there. Edited July 20, 2020 by Notso System HW: i9-9900K @5ghz, MSI 11GB RTX-2080-Ti Trio, G-Skill 32GB RAM, Reverb HMD, Steam VR, TM Warthog Hotas Stick & Throttle, TM F/A-18 Stick grip add-on, TM TFRP pedals. SW: 2.5.6 OB
ngreenaway Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 oh yea, modules are available sooner and sales are longer for standalone than for steam [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] DCS: The most expensive free game you'll ever play Modules: All of them System: I9-9900k, ROG Maximus , 32gb ram, RTX2070 Founder's Edition, t16000,hotas, pedals & cougar MFD, HP Reverb 1.2, HTC VIVE
Taz1004 Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 Pros of Steam needs to be stated as well. If you buy from Steam, you can play on both Steam and Standalone. If you buy from ED, you can't play it on Steam. Also Steam will process refund if you do not like a purchase and played less than 2 hours. Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass
ProfessorFATE Posted July 23, 2020 Posted July 23, 2020 Just noticed a 25% price INCREASE on Steam on all things DCS. What's more concerning is that the Australian dollar has increased in value which should lead to cheaper prices across the board. Have prices risen on the US sites?
Taz1004 Posted July 23, 2020 Posted July 23, 2020 Just noticed a 25% price INCREASE on Steam on all things DCS. What's more concerning is that the Australian dollar has increased in value which should lead to cheaper prices across the board. Have prices risen on the US sites? It's same as ED E-store. How much is Viper on Australian Steam? Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass
ProfessorFATE Posted July 23, 2020 Posted July 23, 2020 It's same as ED E-store. How much is Viper on Australian Steam? It was $105 only a day ago, now $129 Perhaps there's a 'sale' coming ;)
VpR81 Posted July 23, 2020 Posted July 23, 2020 It was $105 only a day ago, now $129 Perhaps there's a 'sale' coming ;) Seems like prices have been increased on DCS modules in general. But that's definately a lot. In the german Steam store the Viper went from 69€ to 74€ today. I'm pretty sure it was still at 69€ yesterday. Thank god i got all modules i'm interested in for now... Phanteks EvolvX / Win 11 / i9 12900K / MSI Z690 Carbon / MSI Suprim RTX 3090 / 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6000 / 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB SATA SSD / 1TB SATA SSD / Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora Pro 360 / beQuiet StraightPower 1200W RSEAT S1 / VPC T50 CM2 + 300mm extension + Realsimulator F18 CGRH / VPC WarBRD + TM Warthog grip / WinWing F/A-18 Super Taurus + F-15EX / 4x TM Cougar MFD / Slaw Device RX Viper V3 / HP Reverb G2
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