Anyone planning on getting the 3090 for VR?

[Waxer]

On buying Nvidia partner boards... why would you? Possibles.

 

1. Maybe you didn't snag a Founders Edition in time.

2. Warranty policies. They vary widely, but for example Zotac offer 5 year warranty. They also have a UK RMA centre making exchange less of a hassle if you live in the UK. Asus - for example - have an RMA agreement with OCUK if you buy from them that makes it hassle free and OCUK give an upgrade option within 3 years to upgrade to a newer model card if the old one fails. EVGA allow mods to the card provided that you return it to factory condition (for OCing water-cooling etc).

3. Some custom bios can allow higher power limits beyond what the Nvidia bios allows.

4. Maybe you like tacky frickkin RGB laser beams on your GPU.

5. Relevant to me: The NVidia Founders Edition uses a custom PCB and not the reference PCB. Therefore generic aftermarket water blocks from EK and similar companies will not fit the Nvidia card.

[juimo]

I realy hope for a DCS Vulkan Release

 

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[Ourorborus]

On buying Nvidia partner boards... why would you? Possibles.

 

1. Maybe you didn't snag a Founders Edition in time.

2. Warranty policies. They vary widely, but for example Zotac offer 5 year warranty. They also have a UK RMA centre making exchange less of a hassle if you live in the UK. Asus - for example - have an RMA agreement with OCUK if you buy from them that makes it hassle free and OCUK give an upgrade option within 3 years to upgrade to a newer model card if the old one fails. EVGA allow mods to the card provided that you return it to factory condition (for OCing water-cooling etc).

3. Some custom bios can allow higher power limits beyond what the Nvidia bios allows.

4. Maybe you like tacky frickkin RGB laser beams on your GPU.

5. Relevant to me: The NVidia Founders Edition uses a custom PCB and not the reference PCB. Therefore generic aftermarket water blocks from EK and similar companies will not fit the Nvidia card.

... Because apparently founders edition isn't coming to Australia!!

 

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[Waxer]

... Because apparently founders edition isn't coming to Australia!!

 

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Yikes. Sorry to hear that mate. Hopefully it is just website gremlins. I can't believe Nvidia would not want Aussies' money. Anyways, as soon as we get our Anglo-Oz trade deal you can import GPUs from the UK. And I can import Margaret River wine from Oz!

[dburne]

And to make the decision even tougher seems there will also be a 3080 Ti released this year.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3080-ti.c3581

 

Guess I will see first how availability goes on the EVGA FTW3 model of the 3090, I am sure I would also be happy with the same model of 3080 Ti to come out a little later.

[Waxer]

And to make the decision even tougher seems there will also be a 3080 Ti released this year.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3080-ti.c3581

 

Guess I will see first how availability goes on the EVGA FTW3 model of the 3090, I am sure I would also be happy with the same model of 3080 Ti to come out a little later.

 

Nice find. Interesting that it looks like Tech Power got their tip off from the plans for an Asus Strix version. So probably credible information rather that just a blind guess. 20GB... yeah! $1000-1200 I guess. Probably $1000 for FE, $1100 for Strix and $1200 Strix OC.

[Phantom88]

Some Interesting Points

[speed-of-heat]

its says based of speculation... but yeah

[Supmua]

Anyone planning on getting the 3090 for VR?

 

NVIDIA is just waiting for AMD to show off their big NAVI before they release the Ti or S cards, especially if price/performance favors AMD. It is a practical business move that they had done before to one up the competition.

 

There is a large price gap between the 3090 and 3080 (as well as VRAM), that they surely can place something in between.

Edited September 7, 2020 by Supmua

[trigen]

Waiting for AMD and TI seems to be the smart way to go here. Hard to wait but one will almost guaranteed to be better off keeping things on ice for now. Exciting times though! Cant wait to crank up the SS and run 120/144hz with motion smooth on my P5k+ Or perhaps even 90 and Large fov if possible.

[boedha68]

Waiting for AMD and TI seems to be the smart way to go here. Hard to wait but one will almost guaranteed to be better off keeping things on ice for now. Exciting times though! Cant wait to crank up the SS and run 120/144hz with motion smooth on my P5k+ Or perhaps even 90 and Large fov if possible.

 

Yes, I orderd the rtx 2080 and a little later came the rtx 2080 super for the same Price and beefed with 10 percent. What Nvidia? Same with the 2080 ti ownership now. Rtx 3070 500 dollars with more performance then the 2080 ti. Well a little wait is more to offer, but tempting. :D

[imacken]

Yes, I orderd the rtx 2080 and a little later came the rtx 2080 super for the same Price and beefed with 10 percent. What Nvidia? Same with the 2080 ti ownership now. Rtx 3070 500 dollars with more performance then the 2080 ti. Well a little wait is more to offer, but tempting. :D

 

We need some real benchmarks in games to determine where the new cards stand. nVidia specs don't always tell the real tale!

[Supmua]

The 30 series will offer a bigger jump in performance compared what the 20 series did to the previous one, you can guesstimate this by looking at the amount of shader cores these cards have. That plus smaller 8 nm chips, faster memory and I/O, next gen architecture (half of the cores can do either FP or integer math while the other half are strictly FP), etc.

 

There is a recent leak that showed FP32 performance from the 3080 at 29.77 TFLOPS compared the 2080Ti at 14.23 TFLOPS, so in terms of raw power NVIDIA definitely has it this time around. The 3090 is supposed to be even faster than that.

 

NVIDIA also needs those numbers, because the next gen consoles are catching up quickly with the upcoming XBOX X rumored to offer 12 TFLOPS in performance. Since AMD makes GPUs for those consoles, you can also guess that the big NAVI will at least offer similar if not better performance than the 2080Ti. So, all of these upcoming cards will be a powerhouse with a great leap in performance.

Edited September 8, 2020 by Supmua

[dawgie79]

Nice find. Interesting that it looks like Tech Power got their tip off from the plans for an Asus Strix version. So probably credible information rather that just a blind guess. 20GB... yeah! $1000-1200 I guess. Probably $1000 for FE, $1100 for Strix and $1200 Strix OC.

 

Not really as it states beneath those specs: Based off of speculation/reddit and other sources online.

 

I don't believe it, really. Maybe next year, but this year? No.

[FoxTwo]

Not really as it states beneath those specs: Based off of speculation/reddit and other sources online.

I don't believe it, really. Maybe next year, but this year? No.

 

 

It probably depends on what AMD does.

[Kercheiz]

I will have a 3090 for work purposes as soon as I can order one. And I will play DCS with it as well. I should be able to post FPS values from a 2070 to a 3090 with an Oculus Quest.

[BMGZ06]

I will wait to see results with the 3080 TI and 3090 before buying. I may even wait for the next generation in 2 years but who knows. If the 3080 Ti FTW 3 Ultra boosts so that I can get solid 80+ FPS in VR with HP Reverb then I would jump on it but I just do not see that happening given DCS's engine optimization issues.

[streakeagle]

Aside from the much higher price of the 3090 for a marginal gain in performance over the 3080, my concern is the size and heat. I really like the case I have right now and I am not sure I can squeeze a 3090 in it, which would leave it in the box collecting dust until I could build a new PC. The new PC is inevitable since I have waited so long since the last build, but real world issues may prevent me from building one any time soon. My current motherboard/cpu combination will be a bottleneck holding back even a 3080. So, maybe I should hold off on getting a 3090 until I am sure I can use it. In the mean time, I could get a 3070 or 3080, then give it to my son if I later decide to get the 3090.

 

For now, I would like to see how what happens after AMD releases big Navi. But I am afraid there is going to be a run on cards that will both raise the price and render them unavailable.

[glad1us]

For someone who has just upgraded a PC like me, and using a PCIE 3 motherboard I wonder if there will be a bandwidth bottleneck compared to the new PCIE 4?

Here's your answer. :)

 

[imacken]

Aside from the much higher price of the 3090 for a marginal gain in performance over the 3080, my concern is the size and heat.

Marginal gain? Although we haven't seen reviews in-game yet, I'm not sure about 'marginal' gain. On paper, it looks pretty significant to me. However, the must-buy aspect of the 3090 for me, is the 24Gb VRAM. 10Gb on the 3080, just isn't enough. DCS already maxes out my 11Gb 2080Ti, so it has to be the 3090 for me.

[Waxer]

Here's your answer. :)

 

 

Exactly. It is the SSD direct to GPU decoding that will saturate PCIe 3.0 x16. But for that to be a problem it requires software support. So not a (first world) problem for right now, but it is coming.

[boedha68]

Marginal gain? Although we haven't seen reviews in-game yet, I'm not sure about 'marginal' gain. On paper, it looks pretty significant to me. However, the must-buy aspect of the 3090 for me, is the 24Gb VRAM. 10Gb on the 3080, just isn't enough. DCS already maxes out my 11Gb 2080Ti, so it has to be the 3090 for me.

 

+1 DCS eats vram for breakfast. :D

[Waxer]

Yeah, I am beginning to this this way too.

 

The 3080 is definitely the sweet spot in terms of price - performance. For a general gamer at 4K resolutions this is probably the best buy.

 

However two caveats:

 

1) There is a very high probability of a 16GB or more likely 20GB 3080 Ti coming out in the first half of the new year for only an extra $200-300. So if you move right now you need to be relaxed about that.

 

2) For someone wanting to run DCS or MSFS 2020 at 4K or higher then I think you would really be better off going ::whatever:: and buying the 3090. *** If *** you can afford it and will not be eating only baked beans and drinking tap water for the next month.

[speed-of-heat]

the observed behavior i have seen is DCS always allocates VRAM that's what we currently measure with available tools... what i haven't been able to check is how much is ACTUALLY used

[dburne]

Marginal gain? Although we haven't seen reviews in-game yet, I'm not sure about 'marginal' gain. On paper, it looks pretty significant to me. However, the must-buy aspect of the 3090 for me, is the 24Gb VRAM. 10Gb on the 3080, just isn't enough. DCS already maxes out my 11Gb 2080Ti, so it has to be the 3090 for me.

 

There will also be a 3080 Ti that I am sure will have ram somewhere between the 3080 and the 3090.

Just depends on how patient some might be to wait for it.

I am still looking at getting the 3090.

 

Edit: An EVGA official just posted on their forum that there is no known 3080 Ti by Nvidia in the works they are aware of.

Edited September 11, 2020 by dburne