lex_Kiev Posted July 11, 2022 Posted July 11, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 11:17 PM, propeler said: Both variants will be possible. But will depend on logistics. I need to check if will be possible to ship outside the Europe. Hello, @propeler great project, thank you, unfortunately github url is now 404, is there any way to get project documentation to try to reproduce it?
skypickle Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 Discord Invite does not work.help? 4930K @ 4.5, 32g ram, TitanPascal
walmis Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, skypickle said: Discord Invite does not work.help? https://discord.gg/XEXZmQHk3T this one should be unlimited
propeler Posted July 14, 2022 Author Posted July 14, 2022 More documentation will be added later but firmware and ui are there https://github.com/o-devices/bldc-ffb-joystick 1
-Dagger- Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 14 hours ago, propeler said: More documentation will be added later but firmware and ui are there https://github.com/o-devices/bldc-ffb-joystick This is amazing!! Thanks a lot!! From what I see you support thrustmaster. For virpil it works very similarly but they encode the axis in the shift registers. Related code: https://github.com/gavazquez/ArduJoy/blob/master/CoolJoy.ino#L234 If you need more info let me know 1
propeler Posted July 17, 2022 Author Posted July 17, 2022 For those who would like to repeat construction that is already build and tested production files are awailable. Stick deflection and force in this configuration: 2
Teh-Stig Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 Thought I'd better create a forum account to thank you all for the inspiration to build something better than the USB converted Sidewinder FFB PRO + TM Warthog F16 grip I'm using now (it works, but the grip is far too heavy for proper feedback). Got a box in the mail today (ODrive 3.6 56V, AS5048a's, belts/pulleys/etc) to add to the motors which arrived a few weeks ago (Turnigy Aerodrive SK3 - 6374-149KV Brushless Outrunners) so I'm on my way . Still thinking through a gimbal design. I'd ideally like to go something in a lower form factor to keep the option of using it on my desk rather than floor, which might mean going back to something like the FFB Pro sliding window design (though strengthened with a sliding rail under fixed pivot like @propeler was thinking here). Though I may end up getting impatient and just Propeler's design from the github yet if I can't talk myself out of buying a furnace and lost PLA'ing it in aluminium
Teh-Stig Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) Also thought you guys might enjoy this beautiful compliant xy mechanism as much as I did. I was tempted to make a joystick with that design (just because I could) but think can see its designed more for precision than power. Edited July 19, 2022 by Teh-Stig
propeler Posted July 22, 2022 Author Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) "Assemblability" of new version with smaller motors is checked. Same gimbal style. More compact dimensions. Height can be reduced even more by extracting controller to the separate box. Link to files for DIY will be availables soon from github page. Edited July 22, 2022 by propeler 5 1
propeler Posted July 25, 2022 Author Posted July 25, 2022 https://github.com/o-devices/ffb-joystick-howerboard-motor-base all needed files to replicate v1. Feel free in building your own. 1
lex_Kiev Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 On 7/25/2022 at 8:26 PM, propeler said: https://github.com/o-devices/ffb-joystick-howerboard-motor-base all needed files to replicate v1. Feel free in building your own. I'd started building this project under @propeler guidance, already ordered odrive board, encoders, metal parts manufacturing, and did motor preparation part. I will do a photo report of the assembly process. 1
dlder Posted August 9, 2022 Posted August 9, 2022 I have never tried my MSFF2 joystick with DCS, so I don't know how well their "general FFB implementation" works, so I wanted to ask if you plan on adding "DCS export" to correctly read and use the ingame telemetry? Or is that not needed, as the DX FFB is accurate enough? Thanks and hopefully support for Winwing sticks is incoming^^ OpenXR-Switcher: to easily switch OpenXR runtimes as well as en-/disable API layers Kneeboard-Picture-Viewer: my own take on a Kneeboard for a 2nd monitor, that acts more or less as a better picture viewer. F-15CX mod: my own take on a simple F-15C upgrade English Avionics with Native Betty: you can now have English HUD on non US planes and still hear the native Betty!
propeler Posted August 10, 2022 Author Posted August 10, 2022 14 hours ago, dlder said: Or is that not needed, as the DX FFB is accurate enough It is not needed, but I use it. I use combination of speed, aoa , acceleration and thrust to generate effect augmentation. But normal DCS FFB is prety good on it's own. Especially on selected aircrafts.
dlder Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 @propeler your explort-lua isn't in the Github repo though, right? OpenXR-Switcher: to easily switch OpenXR runtimes as well as en-/disable API layers Kneeboard-Picture-Viewer: my own take on a Kneeboard for a 2nd monitor, that acts more or less as a better picture viewer. F-15CX mod: my own take on a simple F-15C upgrade English Avionics with Native Betty: you can now have English HUD on non US planes and still hear the native Betty!
propeler Posted August 11, 2022 Author Posted August 11, 2022 Actually it is there https://github.com/o-devices/bldc-ffb-joystick/tree/main/dcs 1
VirusAM Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 2 hours ago, propeler said: Actually it is there https://github.com/o-devices/bldc-ffb-joystick/tree/main/dcs will this work with every FFB base or only with your own firmware? Thanks 1 R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 N/A Realsimulator FFSB MKII Ultra+F-16 grip+F/A-18 grip, VKB Stecs Max, VKB T-Rudder MKV, Razer Tartarus V2 Secrets Lab Tytan, Monstertech ChairMounts
propeler Posted August 11, 2022 Author Posted August 11, 2022 42 minutes ago, VirusAM said: with your own firmware? Yes.
Tehknein Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 (edited) On 7/25/2022 at 1:26 PM, propeler said: https://github.com/o-devices/ffb-joystick-howerboard-motor-base all needed files to replicate v1. Feel free in building your own. Is the GitHub gone now? I want to start the build as it looks great and I own a fab shop and can easily laser cut the metal and bend it for fast iterations for my simpit the new smaller motor design looks dope Edited August 12, 2022 by Tehknein
Tehknein Posted August 17, 2022 Posted August 17, 2022 On 8/11/2022 at 9:08 AM, propeler said: Yes. Thanks for the help! Here goes nothing. Laser cut and bent all the sheet metal today. Glad to avoid those big $ cost people were posting about since it’s my machinery. Hardware, odrive, and hoverboard arrive this weekend. Hopefully those go smoothly! I’m a little confused on the electronics side but I just keep reminding myself it’s like a diy cnc machine mixed with a rc plane, both of which I’ve made from scratch. 3
Hiob Posted August 17, 2022 Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tehknein said: Thanks for the help! Here goes nothing. Laser cut and bent all the sheet metal today. Glad to avoid those big $ cost people were posting about since it’s my machinery. Hardware, odrive, and hoverboard arrive this weekend. Hopefully those go smoothly! I’m a little confused on the electronics side but I just keep reminding myself it’s like a diy cnc machine mixed with a rc plane, both of which I’ve made from scratch. Would you consider to provide forum members with the metal parts? Not for free, obviously! I would love to dive into such a project and I don’t fear the electronic part, but I don’t like the idea of building a sturdy case on my own. btw. all those projects and ideas provided in this thread are incredible! Edited August 17, 2022 by Hiob 1 "Muß ich denn jedes Mal, wenn ich sauge oder saugblase den Schlauchstecker in die Schlauchnut schieben?"
Tehknein Posted August 17, 2022 Posted August 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Hiob said: Would you consider to provide forum members with the metal parts? Not for free, obviously! I would love to dive into such a project and I don’t fear the electronic part, but I don’t like the idea of building a sturdy case on my own. btw. all those projects and ideas provided in this thread are incredible! Send me a PM and I can figure out what my material cost is and we can work something out. I’d love to start a discord for the DIY builders, unless one exist. I know the vpforce one is out there but that is more for non odrive small motor builds. 2
98abaile Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/12/2022 at 11:56 AM, Tehknein said: Is the GitHub gone now? I want to start the build as it looks great and I own a fab shop and can easily laser cut the metal and bend it for fast iterations for my simpit the new smaller motor design looks dope There are forks available. https://github.com/dmtrkun/bldc-ffb-joystick-base 1
Tehknein Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 null Just have to drill my hoverboard motors for the build to be finished, but I've since ordered gear reduced powerful brushless robot actuators and redesigned the stick around it. Waiting on the motors from China but I suspect this will be a much more elegant solution that isnt much more cost. One thing I am unsure how to approach yet is the control scheme on the new stick since I have the option to use integrated canbus controlled drivers instead of a O-drive. Require a new software layer, but I will investigate that later. 1
propeler Posted September 17, 2022 Author Posted September 17, 2022 16 hours ago, Tehknein said: since ordered gear reduced powerful brushless robot actuators and redesigned the stick around it I was looking at those motors. Them are pretty expensive:)
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