Mirage F1 project update

[Rudel_chw]

I don’t get it .. why have a cold war interceptor and then outfit it with modern tech?

[1stBEAST]

16 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

I don’t get it .. why have a cold war interceptor and then outfit it with modern tech?

yeah why upgrading a cold war fighter like the F-16 or F-15 and fit it with modern tech?

on a more serious note:

-if the base fighter is good or good enough why not? could also be a cost factor. i think it costs less to upgrade a existing fighter force. (keep in mind: new fighter, new infrastructure and training of the whole tech personel & Pilots)

[splash]

Phyton 4 in a Mirage F1 CE? I was never mounted.

[Rudel_chw]

10 minutes ago, 1stBEAST said:

yeah why upgrading a cold war fighter like the F-16 or F-15

the F-16C can hardly be called a cold war fighter, entering service just as the cold war ended. I know the F-16 is great, but comparing it with a seventies fighter is kind of odd.

[1stBEAST]

8 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

the F-16C can hardly be called a cold war fighter, entering service just as the cold war ended. I know the F-16 is great, but comparing it with a seventies fighter is kind of odd.

the F-16C entered service in the mid 80s cold war was still going at this point and i did not mention the C i mentioned the F-16 in general.

i could also have used the A-4 or F-4 instead of the F-16 or F-15

[Cab]

1 hour ago, Rudel_chw said:

I don’t get it .. why have a cold war interceptor and then outfit it with modern tech?

Do you mean in game, or in real life?

[Rudel_chw]

27 minutes ago, 1stBEAST said:

the F-16C entered service in the mid 80s cold war was still going at this point and i did not mention the C i mentioned the F-16 in general.

 

Ok, I was thinking of the F-16 we have at DCS, the F-16C Block 50 rolled out the factory on October 1991 ... but that's ok, it's not worth to keep debating this. Best regards.

5 minutes ago, Cab said:

Do you mean in game, or in real life?

 

Of course I mean in DCS .. if my thing is helmet sights I would then purchase an F-16 or Hornet .. to me a cold war fighter has no computer screens, a primitive hud and radar, and no INS/GPS navigation, and the F1 appeals to me just because I want to experience aircrafts of that era.

[1stBEAST]

6 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

Ok, I was thinking of the F-16 we have at DCS, the F-16C Block 50 rolled out the factory on October 1991 ... but that's ok, it's not worth to keep debating this. Best regards.

yeah, but i get your point. as i saied it is probably a cost factor in reallife that older jets are upgraded.

[Cab]

7 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

Of course I mean in DCS .. if my thing is helmet sights I would then purchase an F-16 or Hornet .. to me a cold war fighter has no computer screens, a primitive hud and radar, and no INS/GPS navigation, and the F1 appeals to me just because I want to experience aircrafts of that era.

That's what I thought you meant, but sometimes things get confused in the threads.

For what it's worth, I agree. 

[Joe1978]

hace 13 minutos, Rudel_chw dijo:

Of course I mean in DCS .. if my thing is helmet sights I would then purchase an F-16 or Hornet .. to me a cold war fighter has no computer screens, a primitive hud and radar, and no INS/GPS navigation, and the F1 appeals to me just because I want to experience aircrafts of that era.

I agree with Rudel. I think that's the point.

 

[Nahen]

And F-15C?? This is full ColdWar module...

[Vibora]

15 hours ago, Harlikwin said:

 

Looks like the 4 missile thing was a test configuration per Aerges. 

 

Exactly. That configuration was available in Greek F1CG.

[Rudel_chw]

13 minutes ago, Nahen said:

And F-15C?? This is full ColdWar module...

 

I see no point in comparing FC3 modules with Full Fidelity ones.

[Bremspropeller]

1 hour ago, Rudel_chw said:

I don’t get it .. why have a cold war interceptor and then outfit it with modern tech?

Better not touch the F1M then.

And be glad Aerges wasn't going to make the moroccan F1 MF2000 with the RDY radar,  MICAs and more fancy modern stuff.

[Rudel_chw]

34 minutes ago, Cab said:

For what it's worth, I agree. 

 

Yes .. on a related note, I found it funny to see Spudknocker using the cheat map to navigate the F1 .. seems he really doesn't like tacan/vor navigation 

[Vibora]

12 hours ago, Giskvoosk said:

Seriously, please make the removal of radar glare shield a client option, rather than a mission maker's option. 

It is possible to remove it on ground with canopy open.

[Cab]

11 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

Yes .. on a related note, I found it funny to see Spudknocker using the cheat map to navigate the F1 .. seems he really doesn't like tacan/vor navigation 

Kids! Whatta you gonna do? 

[Bremspropeller]

16 minutes ago, Vibora said:

Exactly. That configuration was available in Greek F1CG.

Are there plans to at least country-tie that loadout option to Greece? It's not that far of a stretch and since Paphos is on the Syria map, it would work out.

Yes, I know greek F1s were actually based in Tanagra.

Edited July 19, 2022 by Bremspropeller

[ak22]

Plane looks and sounds great! can we please get a Royal Moroccan Airforce skin....

[kontiuka]

1 hour ago, Bremspropeller said:

Are there plans to at least country-tie that loadout option to Greece? It's not that far of a stretch and since Paphos is on the Syria map, it would work out.

Yes, I know greek F1s were actually based in Tanagra.

 

That sounds like a core game feature.

[Bremspropeller]

Does anybody know if this Python loadout was actually cleared and operational on the CZ? There's a pic of an AZ in Vlamgat, banking away from the photo-ship with Kukris on the tips and Python 3s on the outboard wing pylons.

 

[Harlikwin]

2 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

Yes .. on a related note, I found it funny to see Spudknocker using the cheat map to navigate the F1 .. seems he really doesn't like tacan/vor navigation 

 

That video was so full of fail and errors... The F1 shot down mig23s in angola.... Um, nooo, It got shot down BY mig23's... It did get some mig21 kills tho. 

[Bremspropeller]

3 minutes ago, Harlikwin said:

Um, nooo, It got shot down BY mig23's... It did get some mig21 kills tho. 

Two MiG-21 kills and none was shot down by Floggers. One F1CZ was hit by a Flogger and overran the runway during landing. The Floggers in turn got lucky as one or two Magic 1s fused too far away.

Hardly a cut and dry "kill" or "loss" on either side.

[kontiuka]

 

[Grift-06]

As seen in this video of growling sidewinder, he's using a fictionnal skin of the F1CR, french squadron 2/33 savoie with a french flag on the shoulder of the pilot, but the helmet is white and not grey. All the helmets are white or there are different helmet colors ?