Helicopter advice

[Viciam1]

Hi guys, I'm looking to get a helicopter for DCS World but I'm not sure which one to get Ideally, I'd wana do rescue missions to pick up stranded pilots and maybe some attack missions too.

 

I understand that ka50 you can't pick up stranded pilots and im not sure about the gazelle. So is huey the only option for me?

 

Thanks in advance.

[ebabil]

huey or mi-8

but don't wait them to perform like an attack helicopter. their attack capabilities are very limited

but riding both of them is much fun

[Razorback]

For sure, the Mi-8 !

So you will be trained just before the arrival of the Mi-24 !

Edited December 12, 2020 by Razorback

[slowmover]

Heuy or Mi8 is your answer. Both are great but they are a lot different. If you like flying helicopter join with us here https://discord.gg/m9YG96BQ . 

[erniedaoage]

Just my opinion, if you can afford it get both. Huey and the mi-8, if you can only afford one module, you have to think a bit into the future. The mi-24 will drop in the near future and if you are a fan of the hind and want to fly her into action, you should get the mi-8 as a starting basis since a lot of stuff should be similar. If you have a lot of time and can wait for the announced Cobra which maybe arrive in the next 2-3 years, you should get the huey. Both are really nice to fly, while i personally find the mi-8 harder to land than the huey, but i have much more flight hours in the huey.

[Viciam1]

mi24 hind One of my childhood favourites. There used to be a OLDDD game in the late 1990's early 2000's based on the Hind in Afghanistan. That would be a great chopper to have coz you can do attack and I believe it can carry people in the back as well?

And the Cobra would be awesome too! Another childhood favourite

[rayrayblues]

On 12/10/2020 at 10:36 PM, ebabil said:

huey or mi-8

but don't wait them to perform like an attack helicopter. their attack capabilities are very limited

but riding both of them is much fun

How do you figure that the Huey is not good for attack? The Mi 8 is perhaps limited, but I find the Huey to be very effective with up to

36 rockets and four miniguns. I can do a lot of damage with these.

[ebabil]

1 hour ago, rayrayblues said:

How do you figure that the Huey is not good for attack? The Mi 8 is perhaps limited, but I find the Huey to be very effective with up to

36 rockets and four miniguns. I can do a lot of damage with these.

How do you figure that I said that? I compared them to the attack helicopters. They don't have guided munitions, their guns and rockets are very ineffective against well armored targets. They don't have rwr like devices. So if someone considers killing serious targets, then choice should be an attack helicopter.

Btw, Mi-8 have much more rockets, 2 side guns and even also bombs. Huey's only superior weapon is flexi gun which mi-8 doesn't have

[rayrayblues]

I apologize, I'm old school. I'm not into the newer weapons systems. I fly mostly WWll and Korean air stuff. I wasn't even thinking about the Ka 50.

You're right about the Mi 8, but even though it has more and better weapons, it is a cumbersome beast. Not nearly as maneuverable as the Huey

so bringing those weapons into play is more difficult, at least for me. Don't get me wrong, I love the Mi 8, but for absolute fun, the Huey is my baby.

I can turn it on a dime and give you nine cents change. Try that in a Hip and you'll cut your tail off.  

[ebabil]

I feel you. Huey is my most favorite flying machine along with f4 phantom

[HC_Official]

defo the mi-8

[Frag]

I have both ... the Huey will rock your boat man ... believe me. They are both nice weapon platform, but the Huey has a stronger jaw for some reason and is simpler to fly. The flight model also feels fantastic.

[Dangerzone]

Wait for the next sale, and buy both for the price of one?   (Although having just had 2 sales recently - Halloween and black Friday not sure when the next one will be).

 

I have personally found the Huey is the most ineffective of the bunch for going into combat (with maybe exception to troop attack where you can have both sides and front gunning simultaneously with the crew) - however in saying that - it is my favorite to fly and gives me the most joy. I have the most hours up in the Huey as well. 

 

The only chopper I don't have is the Mi-8 so I can't comment on her.  KA-50 is an effective weapons platform - but it does not have the flying characteristics of a conventional helicopter (one of the things I enjoy about flying heli's). Also as you mentioned - not capable of rescuing pilots.

 

It really depends on how your preferences are stacked?

 

- Combat.

- Troop Transport.

- Flight Characteristics (and what you're wanting)

- Versatility 

 

You really need to order these in your preference to help decide. 

 

At present I don't think there is one 'best' solution for what you are asking so it's really a matter of prioritizing what is more important to you and I think that will help steer you into a particular direction. (Or as I mentioned above, get both on a sale for the same price of one).

 

In addition to that - be aware that there are some changes coming out. The Hind (as mentioned above - although that could be weeks, months or even a year away - we have no update on it - best guess is Q1 2021 but I don't think that is based on anything official, just gut feelings. Plus I think I read something on here recently about multi-crew (player multi-crew that is) coming to the Huey - just incase either of those are a factor for you.

[shake307]

Well, here are my thoughts as I own the KA-50, UH-1, and Mi-8.  KA-50 is an amazing combat helo with some rad systems.  It does have some weird limitations and unique tactics (think of low level hovering sniper). UH-1 is very utilitarian and "standard", for lack of a better word.  Still a lot of fun and seat of your pants flying.  Mini guns are awesome but dont expect miracles from rockets.  Lastly, the Mi-8.  Physically larger than the other two, it is a flying truck.  It actually is surprisingly agile and can carry more ordnance than even the KA-50.  I love all three and have hated each at some point. 

 

My current rankings:  Mi-8 first, KA-50 second, UH-1 third.  Once i got used to the Mi-8 size and flight characteristics, it really started to shine for me.  KA-50 is super fun but its missions can get very time consuming.  UH-1 seems very fragile to me and I am currently very frustrated with being golden bb'd everytime I fly it.  Mi-8 seems far more robust.  The Ka-50 is obviously the toughest, though.

 

Hope this helps.  Used to electrician on SH-60Bs, so helos have always been interesting to me.  Crazy machines, rotorcraft are.

[Frag]

13 hours ago, shake307 said:

Well, here are my thoughts as I own the KA-50, UH-1, and Mi-8.  KA-50 is an amazing combat helo with some rad systems.  It does have some weird limitations and unique tactics (think of low level hovering sniper). UH-1 is very utilitarian and "standard", for lack of a better word.  Still a lot of fun and seat of your pants flying.  Mini guns are awesome but dont expect miracles from rockets.  Lastly, the Mi-8.  Physically larger than the other two, it is a flying truck.  It actually is surprisingly agile and can carry more ordnance than even the KA-50.  I love all three and have hated each at some point. 

 

My current rankings:  Mi-8 first, KA-50 second, UH-1 third.  Once i got used to the Mi-8 size and flight characteristics, it really started to shine for me.  KA-50 is super fun but its missions can get very time consuming.  UH-1 seems very fragile to me and I am currently very frustrated with being golden bb'd everytime I fly it.  Mi-8 seems far more robust.  The Ka-50 is obviously the toughest, though.

 

Hope this helps.  Used to electrician on SH-60Bs, so helos have always been interesting to me.  Crazy machines, rotorcraft are.

 

Interesting report shake307. I agree with mostly everything you said here.

 

Just one thing though ... but it could be an impression. Anyone did some testing about which chopper is the most sturdy one? I love the MI8, but I got shut down many times from soldiers small weapon firing. Maybe I was just unlucky, but I always had the impression that the Huey was way more sturdy (in DCS, I do not mean real life). Was I just unlucky? I would be interested to get the feel of other people on this. 

[notproplayer3]

yeah both huey and mi8 are amazing modules, some of the best in DCS. I recommend perhaps starting with the huey, yes it is more hands on as it doesn't have a pitch autopilot like the mi8 but it doesn't get in a vrs state as easily as the mi8 meaning you can land more aggressively and with less planning ahead. Basically I would recommend it for very hot and quick landings where you don't exactly know where you're gonna land and when. 

The mi8 on the other hand should be treated more gently than the huey, I personnaly always think ahead of when I'm gonna land and always take a much longer slowdown, approach and touchdown when I see the landing spot. But it still can get in and out very fast don't get me wrong. General flying is quite simpler in the mi8 as it has pitch autopilot and feels a lot more stable. It is also quite a bit faster than the huey. The landings just felt hard to me at first because of vrs but like I said, you gotta treat the helo gentler.

Both are excellent choices. I myself can't really decide if I were to loose those two modules and have to pick a first one to buy again.

 

 

Edited December 16, 2020 by notproplayer3