ShaunX Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 12 hours ago, speed-of-heat said: note with the latest update the IC pass version seems to work but the clear water does not, the simplex shaders still seems to work So I guess the question is - is clear water with metashaders commented out more performant than Simplex ? .. and still worth the additional rebuild time ? Also interested as to why IC pass still works as it still has grass.fx and grass2.fx in metashaders Haven't had the opportunity to upgrade DCS yet to try it I'm afraid. RYZEN 5900X | 32GB | ASUS Strix RTX3090 | 500GB NVMe OS 1000GB NVMe DCS | Warthog HOTAS | HP Reverb G2 | VA & ViacomPRO My DCS Apps: Radio KAOS for DCS KB Quick - Quick and Easy Kneeboards
speed-of-heat Posted October 21, 2021 Author Posted October 21, 2021 no idea. to the last question. IC Pass is marginally less performant than simplex when i last tested it: Simplex Shaders V 2.1 A new variant of Shaders has been released, it is similar (slightly faster) to my IC pass variant it can be gotten from the link below: Frametime in ms Delta From Baseline Ver Test Baseline FPS GPU CPU GPU Usage GPU CPU Changes 2.7.4.9847 69 Test 69 68.74 12.83 7.23 90.23 Baseline test no Shaders 2.7.4.9847 70 Test 69 79.36 11.26 6.97 92.46 1.57 0.27 Simplex Shaders v2 2.7.4.9847 71 Test 69 82.43 10.72 7.23 92.06 2.11 0.00 Kegetys Shaders 2.7.4.9847 72 Test 69 82.22 10.84 6.98 92.69 1.99 0.26 Clear Water Shaders 2.7.4.9847 73 Test 69 76.83 11.52 7.31 91.39 1.31 -0.07 IC Pass Shaders 2.7.4.9847 74 Test 69 77.86 11.41 7.05 91.81 1.42 0.18 Simplex Shaders v2.1 I'm using simplex 2 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
speed-of-heat Posted October 21, 2021 Author Posted October 21, 2021 my guess is maybe those files arent actually doing anything and their effect was placebo .. i left them there because they weren't causing an ic fail SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
5ephir0th Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 @speed-of-heat you know if Simplex Shaders has the Albedo texture supersampling and the mod that makes MFD crisper? That two mods, apart from performance gains, is what i love from Kegetis/Taz/Yours shaders NZXT H9 Flow Black | Intel Core i5 13600KF OCed P5.6 E4.4 | Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX | G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5-6000 32GB C30 OCed 6600 C32 | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition | Western Digital SN770 2TB | Gigabyte GP-UD1000GM PG5 ATX 3.0 1000W | SteelSeries Apex 7 | Razer Viper Mini | SteelSeries Artics Nova 7 | LG OLED42C2 | Xiaomi P1 55" Virpil T-50 CM2 Base + Thrustmaster Warthog Stick | WinWing Orion 2 F16EX Viper Throttle | WinWing ICP | 3 x Thrustmaster MFD | Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals | Oculus Quest 2 DCS World | Persian Gulf | Syria | Flaming Cliff 3 | P-51D Mustang | Spitfire LF Mk. IX | Fw-109 A-8 | A-10C II Tank Killer | F/A-18C Hornet | F-14B Tomcat | F-16C Viper | F-15E Strike Eagle | M2000C | Ka-50 BlackShark III | Mi-24P Hind | AH-64D Apache | SuperCarrier
zildac Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, 5ephir0th said: @speed-of-heat you know if Simplex Shaders has the Albedo texture supersampling and the mod that makes MFD crisper? That two mods, apart from performance gains, is what i love from Kegetis/Taz/Yours shaders I'm assuming so as the _HMD.hlsl file still contains the relevant parameters, although I havent actually tried Simplex as yet. Will try this evening based on the bad news re encryption and various performance enhancing mods now being crippled Edited October 21, 2021 by zildac 14900KS | Maximus Hero Z690 | ASUS 4090 TUF OC | 64GB DDR5 6600 | DCS on 2TB NVMe | WarBRD+Warthog Stick | CM3 | TM TPR's | Varjo Aero
xyszf3000 Posted October 22, 2021 Posted October 22, 2021 DCS VR Shaders mod for 2.7.6 (Clear Water) Hotfix.zip It does not work properly in version 2.7.7. We look forward to your updating.
speed-of-heat Posted October 22, 2021 Author Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, xyszf3000 said: DCS VR Shaders mod for 2.7.6 (Clear Water) Hotfix.zip It does not work properly in version 2.7.7. We look forward to your updating. try reading a few posts above this one.. like the previous page Edited October 22, 2021 by speed-of-heat SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
speed-of-heat Posted October 22, 2021 Author Posted October 22, 2021 I have amended the OP 2 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
speed-of-heat Posted October 24, 2021 Author Posted October 24, 2021 OP Updated for 2.7.7 5 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
FupDuck Posted October 27, 2021 Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) Working great for me, almost back to where I was before this last update! Thank you yet again, @speed-of-heat! Of course I'm hearing now that ED are planning to release a patch tomorrow, so we may all be starting over yet again, but hey, the way I think about it, I learn more and more about computers, graphics cards, etc every time a new version comes out! And here all this time I thought DCS was a flying game, turns out it's a computer engineering class! Edited October 27, 2021 by Sandmonkee 5 "...Iiiiiiiiiii just wanna fly; put your arms around me baby, put your arms around me baby" - Sugar Ray RTX 3090, Ryzen 7 5800X3D, MSI MPG B550 Gaming mobo, 64 GB DDR4 RAM, 970 EVO Plus NVMe M.2 SSD 2TB game drive, VKB STECS Standard throttle, Winwing Ursa Minor Fighter stick, Oculus Quest Pro via ersatz link cable, Standalone DCS. VR only.
speed-of-heat Posted October 27, 2021 Author Posted October 27, 2021 I couldn't have done it without @lefuneste01's hardwork! 2 2 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
zorlac Posted November 3, 2021 Posted November 3, 2021 I`m just diving into the rabbit hole of tweaking DCS in VR, and found this thread about these shaders. I have tried installing the latest Clear water + IC version (from first post) via OvGME, as well as taking a copy of the bazar folder and copying the contents into the existing bazar dir, neither of which appears to make any difference. I`m guessing the "2.7.7.14727" in the filename means they currently are not working for 2.7.7.15038? If so, thats OK, i`ll wait for an updated version... if they should be working, then I have bigger issues
speed-of-heat Posted November 3, 2021 Author Posted November 3, 2021 they should be working SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
zorlac Posted November 3, 2021 Posted November 3, 2021 Good to know they should, that makes it a problem here that I should be able to solve. Thanks, time for some more digging.
Danguard Posted November 4, 2021 Posted November 4, 2021 Awesome mod at all. I have only one issue: every 3 or 4 minutes i have some interruption, some stutter noticeable also in fpsVR. I have G2 with 3080, 32GB of RAM and and i5 at 4.9Ghz. I tried also Simplex version and i didn't have this problem. Cheers D. [sIGPIC]http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6003/danguard.jpg[/sIGPIC]
tomeye Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 16 hours ago, Danguard said: Awesome mod at all. I have only one issue: every 3 or 4 minutes i have some interruption, some stutter noticeable also in fpsVR. I have G2 with 3080, 32GB of RAM and and i5 at 4.9Ghz. I tried also Simplex version and i didn't have this problem. Cheers D. Oh I noticed myself the same but thought it was just me, the graph goes black for glimpse. Using 3060 and i7
Ready Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 12:20 AM, Danguard said: Awesome mod at all. I have only one issue: every 3 or 4 minutes i have some interruption, some stutter noticeable also in fpsVR. I have G2 with 3080, 32GB of RAM and and i5 at 4.9Ghz. I tried also Simplex version and i didn't have this problem. Cheers D. Did you clean out all your shader cache? Maybe something else running in the background? Are you having the stutters in the GPU or CPU frametimes? I fly an A-10C II in VR and post my DCS journey on | Subscribe to my DCS A-10C channel Come check out the 132nd Virtual Wing | My VR Performance Optimization (4090/9800X3D/Aero) SYSTEM SPECS: Ryzen 7 9800X3D, RTX4090, 64GB DDR5-6000, Windows 10, ROG STRIX X870E-E Gaming WIFI, Varjo Aero, VKB Gunfighter MKIII MCG Ultimate with 10cm extension, VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle, VPC Control Panel #2, TM TPR Rudders. Buttkicker, Gametrix Jetseat, PointCTRL, OpenKneeboard, Wacom Intuos Pro Small.
tomeye Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 both but I think it's caused by CPU. I cleaned all fxo and metashaders2 before.
speed-of-heat Posted November 6, 2021 Author Posted November 6, 2021 The CW and IC Pass versions of the MOD are based upon Kegteys mod, they are (as i have said many time butchery, i literally hack files out of it) ... it if there is a problem if i cant address it by hacking files away, I rely on the kindness of others to find the specific bug, or Kegteys himself. If you have this problem I suggest you use the simplex version of the mod, it will cost you about .5ms of GPU frame time until Kegetys updates his mod ... thanks 2 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Danguard Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 12 hours ago, Ready_ENP said: Did you clean out all your shader cache? Maybe something else running in the background? Are you having the stutters in the GPU or CPU frametimes? Both. It's not a millisec jitter but for 2 or sec or more, sometime with the popup from stemVR "DCS waiting". [sIGPIC]http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6003/danguard.jpg[/sIGPIC]
Ready Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) I don't know if you allready did, but try to eliminate potential sources for such issues I would say. Did you close down all the background services you don't need and stop all other applications you don't need? Did you use Process Lasso to dedicate a few cores to DCS and put all other stuff to other cores? Have Lasso open on screen when you run DCS, sort it to CPU usage for example and when the issue appears quickly look at it to see what process is using high CPU at that moment, or just do a straight and level flight on autopilot and put the headset on the desk and look at the desktop mirror besides the process manager, which makes it easier to spot. Edited November 6, 2021 by Ready_ENP I fly an A-10C II in VR and post my DCS journey on | Subscribe to my DCS A-10C channel Come check out the 132nd Virtual Wing | My VR Performance Optimization (4090/9800X3D/Aero) SYSTEM SPECS: Ryzen 7 9800X3D, RTX4090, 64GB DDR5-6000, Windows 10, ROG STRIX X870E-E Gaming WIFI, Varjo Aero, VKB Gunfighter MKIII MCG Ultimate with 10cm extension, VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle, VPC Control Panel #2, TM TPR Rudders. Buttkicker, Gametrix Jetseat, PointCTRL, OpenKneeboard, Wacom Intuos Pro Small.
VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants Posted November 18, 2021 Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) Yet to test, so is the latest OB breaking anything? Edited November 18, 2021 by VFGiPJP I Fly, Therefore I Am. One cannot go around not saying "Thank you" every time these days, can't you? YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc9BDi-STaqgWsjNiHbW0fA
speed-of-heat Posted November 18, 2021 Author Posted November 18, 2021 Not that have seen. 1 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
chlywly Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 Thanks so much for this insane amount of work! Where is the link for simplex 2.1?
speed-of-heat Posted November 23, 2021 Author Posted November 23, 2021 it's here DCS Performance Shaders - SIMPLEX 2.7.0.4625 (digitalcombatsimulator.com) 1 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
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