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After seeing videos of DCS: BS and flying around, although the new black shark has Advanced flight model and is meant to be very realistic, I was just wondering how long it would take to be at a good standard with flying the helicopter, Will it be so easy that anyone can take off and hover from the first time of flying or will it require constant and minute alterations of the control inputs constantly to keep it stable just like in real life?

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.......or will it require constant and minute alterations of the control inputs constantly to keep it stable just like in real life?

 

that one.

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Me - I'll be delving deep into the mysteries that is the AutoPilot and it's attendant idiosyncrasies...........:joystick:

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To give you an idea... I 'flew' it during a sim-event in Germany earlier this year. With the simplified FM I managed to lift-off, get it over the treeline and crash it in the field behind it. Total flighttime less than a minute. Basic flying will keep you occupied for many weeks before you're even able to get a missile off the rail, much less put it on_target...

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AutoPilot is your friend then...

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Oh you have NO idea how true that is. NO idea :D

 

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I did, but he looks to be handling it pretty well, Chris is a real world pilot, but it just looks so stable in the video, I want a CHALLENGE!

 

Well, you could always try flying WITHOUT the autopilot modes... :P

But then again, even with autopilot the KA-50 is a handful, trust me ;)

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Well no one said it's gonna be easy ;) But if you have patience and motivation you'll be rewarded- nothing comes closer to shut down your helicopter at your home plate after successful sortie. Another note- BS will come with the most detailed and comprehensive manual ever which along with the thoroughly explained training tracks should be a very good guide into your first steps in (virtualy) flying the Ka-50.

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I can't wait to show my dad this manual. He is a retired USAF pilot. (F-111, B-52 with nuks and KC-135)

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I did, but he looks to be handling it pretty well, Chris is a real world pilot, but it just looks so stable in the video, I want a CHALLENGE!

I think you will have a challenge with the Damage Model. Engine overtorque, Blade intersection and such things.:)

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Oh the Moans............I can feel it in my Bones!

 

Bug Forum Stardate 200..... Log Entry #47249:

 

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Anyway it seems to be a lot easier to fly than a convetional helicopter (with anti-torque rotor at the tail). Is that right?

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The KA 50 has counter rotating main roters that cansel the tork. There is no tail roter needed to counter the tork of the main roters. Watch some of the videos and look at the tail. :book: Reading is not only fun it is fundimentel.

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Anyway it seems to be a lot easier to fly than a convetional helicopter (with anti-torque rotor at the tail). Is that right?

 

In the sense that you do not have to continually mess with the pedals as you add or reduce power, then yes, it is simpler in that respect.

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The Ka-50 is designed to be as easy to fly as possible. As there's only one person doing all the flying, spotting and shooting any way to lessen the burdon for the pilot is quite important.

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But the down side of using contra-rotating rotors is from a maintenance side... Becomes more costly, and also if a teeny little bit of it breaks you are more stuffed.

 

I don't think the issue of removing the tail rotor is one for ease of control. Yes at first you find it difficult keeping up with everything, but it pretty soon becomes second nature.

 

So yes it'll be easier to fly from the first time heli pilot point of view, but for the front line pilots that are flying Ka-50s, well they'll have learnt on a conventional chopper so they will already be well in the groove of that.

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But the down side of using contra-rotating rotors is from a maintenance side... Becomes more costly, and also if a teeny little bit of it breaks you are more stuffed.

 

The Kamov design is actually more resistant to battle damage than a conventional tail-rotor design (according to Kamov that is :)). A downside is that the longer mast produces more drag, hence the streamlined body and retractable gear.

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Will the tail roter "correct" the helicopter more than co-axial roter, if you slide to the side?

 

I hope i understand you correctly, you are talking about yaw speed, right? I think the coax rotor can yaw faster, for sure it will yaw with equal speed in both directions.

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sobek difficult to say whether it's more "damage-able" than conventional. Let's face it, if you lose a rotor blade on the contra-rotating you are just as stuffed as if you lose one on a conventional layout.

I guess "survivabilty" all comes down to where you take the hits..... I wouldn't want to get shot at in a helicopter. They don't even fly, they just vibrate so badly the earth rejects them.

 

But the complexity of one shaft driving two rotors in opposite directions seems to me, more complicated than having two shafts in different directions out of the gearbox. The more mecahnical parts you have the higher the chances of a failure.

 

When we get the Apache module we can find out just which one flies the best minus a few working parts here and there!

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No, CAT has to take a closer look at crime's post. :)
Errrr... it seems that I just can't express myself properly in english and will never do :dunno: Sorry for the confusion CAT.
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