Getting crashes once or twice a day since 2.7

imacken · April 22, 2021

A couple of examples.

dcs.log-20210422-113345.zip dcs.log-20210421-110815.zip

BIGNEWY · April 22, 2021

Hi Imacken,

are you using any unofficial mods, shader mods, or reshade?

If so remove them and run a full cleanup and repair and see if it helps.

also are you overclocking?

thanks

imacken · April 22, 2021

I use reshade occasionally and that is all. Pretty sure I get the crashes even without it, but I'll take it off and review over the next couple of days. Thanks.

imacken · April 29, 2021

OK, so removing the reshader mod made no difference. Still crashing on a regular basis.

dcs.log-20210429-143123.zip dcs.log-20210429-114915.zip

Flappie · April 29, 2021

Hi @imacken. Your two last logs show a different error: it's the second mission loading crash.

2021-04-29 11:49:15.158 INFO    DCS: Screen: mission_offline
2021-04-29 11:49:15.160 INFO    EDCORE: try to write dump information
2021-04-29 11:49:15.162 INFO    EDCORE: # -------------- 20210429-114915 --------------
2021-04-29 11:49:15.163 INFO    EDCORE: DCS/2.7.0.5118 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19042)
2021-04-29 11:49:15.164 INFO    EDCORE: E:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\dx11backend.dll
2021-04-29 11:49:15.165 INFO    EDCORE: # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 31F82D13 00:00000000
2021-04-29 11:49:15.169 INFO    EDCORE: SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;E:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta;E:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 530, UserName: 'imack'
2021-04-29 11:49:15.171 INFO    EDCORE: OS-Version: 10.0.19042 () 0x300-0x1
2021-04-29 11:49:15.843 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000042D13 (dx11backend): createRenderer + 0x2AFA3
2021-04-29 11:49:15.844 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000042E82 (dx11backend): createRenderer + 0x2B112
2021-04-29 11:49:15.844 INFO    EDCORE: 0x000000000002DDC5 (NGModel): model::ModelMaterial::draw + 0x2595
2021-04-29 11:49:15.844 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000315E0 (NGModel): model::ModelMaterial::draw + 0x5DB0
2021-04-29 11:49:15.845 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000034F4B (NGModel): model::ModelMaterial::draw + 0x971B
2021-04-29 11:49:15.845 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000020ED3 (NGModel): model::graph::GraphNodesFactory::bootstrap + 0x473
2021-04-29 11:49:15.845 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000037E02 (NGModel): model::ModelMaterial::draw + 0xC5D2
2021-04-29 11:49:15.845 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000041F15 (NGModel): init_graphics_plugin + 0x2F05
2021-04-29 11:49:15.845 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000042058 (NGModel): model::NGModelLods::~NGModelLods + 0x48
2021-04-29 11:49:15.846 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000428EE (NGModel): model::NGModelLods::~NGModelLods + 0x8DE
2021-04-29 11:49:15.846 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000036B73 (GraphicsVista): Graphics::Models::gc + 0x1B3
2021-04-29 11:49:15.846 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000032970 (GraphicsVista): Graphics::Renderer::FreeUnusedResources + 0x20
2021-04-29 11:49:15.846 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000801CD4 (DCS): SW + 0x511324
2021-04-29 11:49:15.846 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000007E9399 (DCS): SW + 0x4F89E9
2021-04-29 11:49:15.846 INFO    EDCORE: 0x000000000011780A (edCore): Common::FSM::sendOutputSymbol_ + 0x4A
2021-04-29 11:49:15.847 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000116EA2 (edCore): Common::FSM::enterToState_ + 0xC2
2021-04-29 11:49:15.847 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000117689 (edCore): Common::FSM::onSymbol_ + 0x1A9
2021-04-29 11:49:15.847 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000007FF311 (DCS): SW + 0x50E961
2021-04-29 11:49:15.847 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000007D02A4 (DCS): SW + 0x4DF8F4
2021-04-29 11:49:15.847 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000007D067D (DCS): SW + 0x4DFCCD
2021-04-29 11:49:15.847 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000001C2BB59 (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xE40B55
2021-04-29 11:49:15.848 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000A067DE (DCS): SW + 0x715E2E
2021-04-29 11:49:15.848 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000017034 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14
2021-04-29 11:49:15.848 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000052651 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21
2021-04-29 11:49:16.059 INFO    EDCORE: Minidump created.

Please try this:

Go to %USERPROFILE%/Appdata/Local/Temp/
Delete folder named "DCS"
Delete folder named "DCS.openbeta"

imacken · April 29, 2021

Ok, thanks. I’ll give that a go. Yes, more often than not, the crash occurs on a change of mission.

imacken · May 2, 2021

Nope, that made no difference. I'm continuing to have issues with 2.7. Every session.

dcs.log-20210502-202823.zip

Flappie · May 2, 2021

I just wrote a summary of possible solutions for this issue. Feel free to try them all if you haven't already:

imacken · May 4, 2021

Thanks, I normally do most of those things anyway, but some I wasn't going to even try, e.g. default nVidia CP settings.

Still happening almost every session.

dcs.log-20210504-121421.zip

Pocket Kings · May 4, 2021

Are you aware of the Windows Update package KB4589212. Some people noted that uninstalling, rebooting and reinstalling the package helped a great deal. Also, use newest NVidia drivers. I'm afraid I can't be of more help since I don't encounter these crashes.

imacken · May 4, 2021

Thanks, but I have had so many updates since then, that I don't want to mess with my Windows install.

Surely, given all the crash threads, ED are on the case with this and we will see a quick fix soon.

ak22 · May 4, 2021

same here keeps crashing when playing online.

Flappie · May 4, 2021

Please try this:

7 hours ago, zampe said:

Finally!!!!!!

After installing Windows 10 20H2 KB5001391 Cumulative Update Preview (april 2021), crash problems after the 2nd launch of the mission magically disappeared....

Unbelievable but true!!! I've been playing for two days and since haven't had a single crash problem

imacken · May 5, 2021

Thanks, but that is already installed and has no effect on the issue.

XPACT · May 5, 2021

12 hours ago, Flappie said:

Please try this:

That didn't age well... He is still having crashes. Major system changes like driver updates, changing page file, updating windows seem to flip the coin but so far it seems that if you had crashes before they will come back at some point.

imacken · May 5, 2021

Getting crashes almost every mission restart now. Can someone confirm that ED is working on this 2.7 issue?

dcs.log-20210505-093325.zip

Flappie · May 5, 2021

I'm not from ED but I know devs are working on it, yes.

I've had a little chat with a user who told me he's had considerably less crashes from the moment he disabled NVIDIA FPS capping. Do you use FPS capping?

44 minutes ago, XPACT said:

That didn't age well... He is still having crashes. Major system changes like driver updates, changing page file, updating windows seem to flip the coin but so far it seems that if you had crashes before they will come back at some point.

Thanks, I wasn't aware of this.

imacken · May 5, 2021

Yes, I do use FPS capping for GSync purposes. I'll switch it off to try for day or so.

imacken · May 6, 2021

Switching off frame limiter made no difference, and neither did the recent patch. Still happening almost every session. I've joined the other thread on this.

zildac · May 6, 2021

I've not come across the 2nd mission crash as yet, however using the XCAS mission ( https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3314238/ )and dropping Rockeyes from an F18 causes a crash every time, also had the same issue using GBU12's from an A10 yesterday. I appreciate the statement isn't that helpful, but I'm still trying to isolate the exact circumstances.

jfnelson0127 · May 6, 2021

On 4/22/2021 at 8:16 AM, imacken said:

I use reshade occasionally and that is all. Pretty sure I get the crashes even without it, but I'll take it off and review over the next couple of days. Thanks.

I can also confirm that I was using Reshade and removed it assuming it was contributing to my 2.7 crashes. The removal did nothing. Second-load cashes continue.

skywalker22 · May 7, 2021

What would here be wrong for a game crash:

...

2021-05-07 18:29:05.044 WARNING GRAPHICSCORE: already registered Renderer callback
2021-05-07 18:29:05.051 INFO VISUALIZER: StartSimulation
2021-05-07 18:29:05.483 ERROR_ONCE DX11BACKEND: render target 'cloudShadows' not found
2021-05-07 18:29:05.483 ERROR_ONCE DX11BACKEND: render target 'CascadeShadowMap' not found
2021-05-07 18:29:05.483 ERROR_ONCE DX11BACKEND: render target 'mainDepthBuffer_copy' not found
2021-05-07 18:29:05.483 ERROR_ONCE DX11BACKEND: render target 'DummyShadowMap' not found
2021-05-07 18:29:05.485 INFO VISUALIZER: cascade shadows init (preset:'default' quality:4 layers:4 size:4096)
2021-05-07 18:29:05.487 INFO Dispatcher: initial random seed = 2146438
2021-05-07 18:29:05.488 INFO Dispatcher: apply random seed = 2146438
2021-05-07 18:29:05.489 INFO WORLDGENERAL: loaded from mission Scripts/World/GPS_GNSS.lua
2021-05-07 18:29:05.704 INFO WORLDGENERAL: loaded from mission Config/View/SnapViewsDefault.lua
2021-05-07 18:29:05.705 INFO WORLDGENERAL: loaded from mission Config/View/SnapViews.lua
2021-05-07 18:29:05.705 INFO WORLDGENERAL: loaded from mission Config/View/View.lua
2021-05-07 18:29:05.706 INFO WORLDGENERAL: loaded from mission Config/View/Server.lua
2021-05-07 18:29:05.746 INFO Config: netview started
2021-05-07 18:29:05.899 INFO VISUALIZER: CameraIndependedPreload()
2021-05-07 18:29:05.899 INFO VISUALIZER: CameraIndependedPreload() finished
2021-05-07 18:29:06.976 INFO DCS: MissionSpawn:initScript
2021-05-07 18:29:06.976 INFO DCS: MissionSpawn:spawnCoalition neutrals
2021-05-07 18:29:06.976 INFO DCS: MissionSpawn:spawnCoalition red
2021-05-07 18:29:06.976 INFO DCS: MissionSpawn:spawnPlanes 0
2021-05-07 18:29:06.985 INFO DCS: MissionSpawn:spawnCoalition blue
2021-05-07 18:29:06.985 INFO DCS: MissionSpawn:spawnPlanes 2
2021-05-07 18:29:06.986 INFO DCS: MissionSpawn:spawnLocalPlayer 9,FA-18C_hornet
2021-05-07 18:29:07.013 WARNING EDCORE: Source ./Mods/aircraft/FA-18C/Cockpit/Scripts/../Shape is already mounted to the same mount /models/.
2021-05-07 18:29:07.035 INFO VISUALIZER: cockpit ILV loaded
2021-05-07 18:29:09.987 INFO COCKPITBASE: lua state still active MACROS, 55 (status undefined)
2021-05-07 18:29:09.987 INFO COCKPITBASE: lua state still active TGP_INTERFACE, 62 (status undefined)
2021-05-07 18:29:09.991 INFO WORLDGENERAL: loaded from mission Scripts/World/birds.lua
2021-05-07 18:29:10.020 INFO TACVIEW.EXPORT.LUA: Loading C++ flight data recorder from [E:\Saved\DCS.openbeta\Mods\tech\Tacview\bin\]
2021-05-07 18:29:10.020 INFO TACVIEW.EXPORT.LUA: Tacview 1.8.6.201 C++ flight data recorder successfully loaded.
2021-05-07 18:29:10.023 INFO VISUALIZER: Preload() camera=-151627.501781, 1998.670360, -33593.365957 radius=38400.000000
2021-05-07 18:29:10.023 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: ITerrainGraphicsImpl4::forceLoading(): pos=(-151628, 1998.67, -33593.4), radius=38400
2021-05-07 18:29:10.081 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: surface5 clean up LOD 0: left 1 released 390
2021-05-07 18:29:10.085 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: surface5 clean up LOD 1: left 18 released 392
2021-05-07 18:29:10.085 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: surface5 clean up 14.204700 ms
2021-05-07 18:29:12.609 ERROR_ONCE DX11BACKEND: texture 'noise4.png' not found. Asked from 'METASHADER'
2021-05-07 18:29:13.078 INFO VISUALIZER: Preload() finished
2021-05-07 18:29:13.082 INFO TACVIEW.DLL: Tacview Flight Data Recorder 1.7.6 Loaded
2021-05-07 18:29:13.082 INFO TACVIEW.DLL: Config={bookmarkShortcut=0, clientTelemetryPassword="", compressionLevel=1, dataRecordingEnabled=1, debugModeEnabled=0, hostTelemetryPassword="", playbackDelay=600, profilingPeriod=600, realTimeTelemetryPort=42674, recordClientsSessionsEnabled=0, remoteControlPassword="", remoteControlPort=42675}
2021-05-07 18:29:13.082 INFO DCS: Screen: mission_offline
2021-05-07 18:29:13.085 INFO EDCORE: try to write dump information
2021-05-07 18:29:13.087 INFO EDCORE: # -------------- 20210507-182914 --------------
2021-05-07 18:29:13.087 INFO EDCORE: DCS/2.7.0.5659 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19042)
2021-05-07 18:29:13.088 INFO EDCORE: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll
2021-05-07 18:29:13.088 INFO EDCORE: # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 624A6BAE 00:00000000
2021-05-07 18:29:13.092 INFO EDCORE: SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;E:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta;E:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 528, UserName: 'mbonc'
2021-05-07 18:29:13.093 INFO EDCORE: OS-Version: 10.0.19042 () 0x100-0x1

...

Edited May 7, 2021 by mitja_bonca

Burt · May 8, 2021

On 5/4/2021 at 9:59 AM, Pocket Kings said:

Are you aware of the Windows Update package KB4589212. Some people noted that uninstalling, rebooting and reinstalling the package helped a great deal. Also, use newest NVidia drivers. I'm afraid I can't be of more help since I don't encounter these crashes.

Is it possible to post your system specs Pocket King. You have not encountered not 1 crash since the update ? Not 1 ? Wow !
I bet it’s an older processor

Pocket Kings · May 8, 2021

4 hours ago, Burt said:

Is it possible to post your system specs Pocket King. You have not encountered not 1 crash since the update ? Not 1 ? Wow !
I bet it’s an older processor

I've encountered two crashes, right when I started playing DCS. That was still version 2.5.6 and they were related to the Windows page file. Since then, nothing. Not one crash or CDT. Of course, I'm encountering the numerous bugs in game, but that's a different story.

I'm using DCS in a virtualized environment, mostly on a server that has:

server grade Xeon CPU 4th Gen, 4 cores assigned

24 GB RAM Caucasus and Nevada (I'm aware will need to assign more with Syria but the server has 128, no big deal)

GTX 1060

SSD cluster 5x 1TB, 500 GB assigned

The other server also has a GTX 1060, 3rd Gen Xeon, but a hard disk cluster comprised of 10K RPM drives and 48 Gigs of RAM, however the VM still has 24 GB RAM assigned to it. And yes, I'm hunting for a graphics card upgrade everywhere.

I believe that the secret really lies in the fact that I don't use any other programs on this gaming VM. Nvidia drivers, a remote gaming tool called parsec, not even a Thrustmaster suite. And I have the ability to fully snapshot the hard disk in a matter of seconds, yes seconds! Meaning if I'm observing the DCS update message on startup, I immediately cancel, shutdown, snapshot, reboot, upgrade DCS or Windows, run, test. Whenever something goes south, I don't even bother, I roll back to the snapshot.

There's nothing voodoo about it. I could assist somebody if interested. Also mind that Windows on a Linux platform runs faster than Windows natively, sad but true. Then those memory access violations and page faults and buffer overflows etc. aren't as problematic. Essentially the Linux host tells the Windows virtual machine "no Sir, you can't do that, back off".

4 hours ago, Burt said:

I bet it’s an older processor

Old or not, I can emulate any newer or older processor I please. Currently there's no problem allowing Windows to see the processor as the real Xeon model. But I could restrict CPU feature assets down to Ivy bridge or Sandy or even older, yet still have as many cores as the platform has. And with development platforms I have to do it sometimes in order to hunt bugs.

Edited May 8, 2021 by Pocket Kings
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Burt · May 8, 2021

Oh okay well thank you for explaining. I never had any crashing In 2.5 in 1 year I have been on DCS the day 2.7 came I only then start to get them. Nothing wrong on my end and soon will be fixed on there end. Could be the GTX1060. I’m not a tech guy. Somethings missing at a certain time that causing the crashes, that and a few other guesses. I posted my crashes weeks ago of my method/care.
I played on a bfm server cacus map and VR last night for 5 hours and only had 3 crashes.

thanks

Edited May 8, 2021 by Burt

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