Viper Core Features

[Mirage2425]

At this point in the development of the Viper I feel we have plenty of weapons to work with.  My preference is that ED move to bug fixes and adding core features to the Viper.  My hope is that the following be made a priority after the release of the CBU-103 and CBU-105.

 

• Bullseye
• Flight model update
• DTOS
• Mark points
• Target steerpoints
• DEST and CRUS page

 

These features are sorely needed.  I often feel like I'm fighting with one hand tied behind my back.  Right now it's extremely difficult to attack anything unless there is a steerpoint near or on top of the target.  The only time this occurs is during strike missions.  When doing CAS or DEAD you have to rely on your systems and without the above features I'm fighting the systems more than I am the enemy.  Anyway, I wanted to put this out there, for what it's worth.

[Xavven]

Agreed. And A-G JHMCS integration so I can look at a target of opportunity and mark it.

[Mirage2425]

7 minutes ago, Xavven said:

Agreed. And A-G JHMCS integration so I can look at a target of opportunity and mark it.

I totally agree.

[Bunny Clark]

Finishing JHMCS and DTOS would be my priorities. DTOS is already partially implemented I think, since it's very similar to how the Maverick and JDAM VIS Modes work. Bullseye would also be really nice, along with adding the North arrow to the HSD. 

[Terzi]

Additions:

DTC and configurable MFD pages

Better TGP

More official Turkish squadron skins (unoffcial skins are full of mistakes)

Other incomplete stuff (like alternative landing gear, flcs bit test etc)

 

[Spartan111sqn]

First of all, Flight Model please, this is a SIM.

[Rhinozherous]

I take anything that makes attacking ground targets better! Right now it is very clunky to handle the TGP

[Silvester.E]

Totally agree! Systems please. 

[WHOGX5]

I completely agree with OP, but for the love of god, don't exclude the HTS pod. The F-16CM-50 is the USAF's main SEAD platform so it would be nice if we were actually capable of performing it properly.

[104th_Crunch]

• Bullseye
• Flight model update
• DTOS
• Mark points
• Target steerpoints
• DEST and CRUS page

And JHMCS !!!

 

Yes!

[twistking]

System failures / damage model?!

(when i flew the viper in decembre during the free trial, the "damage model" seemed to be very "binary")

[Sajarov]

Realistic radar with more realistic parameters and notch filter, zero doper filter ...will be a must.

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[Alpiinoo]

TGP contrast is broken.

FM, Bullseye... These are more important than jsow. Why is jsow given priority? Core systems are missing.

 

I bought the viper when it first came out but still not operational.

 

We just have weapons. But we don't have systems? Just funny.

 

There is wrong planning here.

 

Thanks.

Edited July 13, 2021 by Alpiinoo

[Mirage2425]

All the weapons in the world will not give us the ability to actually use the Viper.  Everything is so frustrating to use.  Getting the TGP pointed the right direction requires the use of snowplow mode.  DTOS should be easy to implement because, as someone mentioned earlier DTOS is partially implemented as part of the Maverick and JDAM's.  Also, the TGP seems to drift even I'm INR mode.  We need mark points as then we have coordinates.  This means on lofting you have to sweeten the lock when you should be focusing on pickling and going defensive.  Also, both the TGP and Maverick are difficult to see on the MFD, making it even more frustrating.  Finding targets with the TGP is very difficult without a steerpoint as it's like looking through a soda straw.  A2G radar and DTOS would help with that.  The lack of bullseye makes it difficult to communicate the position of targets or other members of the flight.  DEST and CRUS can wait, though they are nice to haves.  Tuning the flight model and improving the A2A radar is also important.  A2G radar is also a nice to have.  Beyond that in my opinion everything else in my opinion is a nice to have.  

Also, saying most planned for later doesn't tell the community anything we don't already know.  What comes first?  No time lines, just what are the priorities other than weapons?

Edited July 13, 2021 by Mirage2425

[Alpiinoo]

52 minutes ago, Mirage2425 said:

All the weapons in the world will not give us the ability to actually use the Viper.  Everything is so frustrating to use.  Getting the TGP pointed the right direction requires the use of snowplow mode.  DTOS should be easy to implement because, as someone mentioned earlier DTOS is partially implemented as part of the Maverick and JDAM's.  Also, the TGP seems to drift even I'm INR mode.  We need mark points as then we have coordinates.  This means on lofting you have to sweeten the lock when you should be focusing on pickling and going defensive.  Also, both the TGP and Maverick are difficult to see on the MFD, making it even more frustrating.  Finding targets with the TGP is very difficult without a steerpoint as it's like looking through a soda straw.  A2G radar and DTOS would help with that.  The lack of bullseye makes it difficult to communicate the position of targets or other members of the flight.  DEST and CRUS can wait, though they are nice to haves.  Tuning the flight model and improving the A2A radar is also important.  A2G radar is also a nice to have.  Beyond that in my opinion everything else in my opinion is a nice to have.  

Also, saying most planned for later doesn't tell the community anything we don't already know.  What comes first?  No time lines, just what are the priorities other than weapons?

 

I totally agree with you.

[Jester2138]

1. Flight model
2. Bug fixes / fixes to existing features
3. Flight model
4. Flight model
5. Damage model and failure modes
6. TGP functions
7. Flight model
8. HTS pod
9. Everything else
10. Flight model again just to be sure

[Thunder_]

very right , flight model update, and all the others absolutely needed 100 percent  

can't wait to see the 9 g unleashed 

btw FLIGHT MODEL just to be sure again 

Edited July 14, 2021 by Bozo_

[b0bl00i]

I vote for flight model, bits, Mark points and ag radar, cruise and other ded/ mfd pages. On top of that, I want a better damage model. I want to do proper flame out landings and other emergency procedures.. And I want the atc to be competent enough to handle it, like that other sim. 

Edited July 14, 2021 by b0bl00i

[BIGNEWY]

Hi all, 

 

thank you for your interest, as we have mentioned before we have a busy schedule for the viper and the team are hard at work on many of the features mentioned here already. 

 

As we get closer to completing those features we will share progress and videos with you all. 

 

thanks