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The OP is wrong in that the SU-25 should not have TWO brake axes. Like most(all?) Russian jets, it doesn't have toe brakes, and instead uses differential braking with a single brake axis (the lever on the stick, not on the rudder pedals).

But the OP is right in that the SU-25 should have this axis. Currently, it is only an on/off button. It should indeed work like the Su-27.

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11 hours ago, PawlaczGMD said:

The OP is wrong in that the SU-25 should not have TWO brake axes. Like most(all?) Russian jets, it doesn't have toe brakes, and instead uses differential braking with a single brake axis (the lever on the stick, not on the rudder pedals)

You’re wrong. This has been discussed numerous times; SU-25 brakes are activated by the pedals. Do not make up stuff.

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11 hours ago, PawlaczGMD said:

The OP is wrong in that the SU-25 should not have TWO brake axes. Like most(all?) Russian jets, it doesn't have toe brakes, and instead uses differential braking with a single brake axis (the lever on the stick, not on the rudder pedals).

But the OP is right in that the SU-25 should have this axis. Currently, it is only an on/off button. It should indeed work like the Su-27.

Could you show me where this “lever on the stick” is? 
 

Su-27 has same braking with pedals 

 

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Posted (edited)
19 hours ago, Maxthrust said:

How is this labeled as solution?

More importantly, when will ED address this?

FC4?

I have created a post on the bug tracker, it should be obvious.

19 hours ago, PawlaczGMD said:

The OP is wrong in that the SU-25 should not have TWO brake axes. Like most(all?) Russian jets, it doesn't have toe brakes, and instead uses differential braking with a single brake axis (the lever on the stick, not on the rudder pedals).

But the OP is right in that the SU-25 should have this axis. Currently, it is only an on/off button. It should indeed work like the Su-27.

You must be 100% sure before saying someone is wrong:

 

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19 hours ago, Maxthrust said:

How is this labeled as solution?

More importantly, when will ED address this?

FC4?

ok, unlabeled 🙂 Just wanted to emphasize that the bugtracker is proper place for this post.

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53 minutes ago, Supernova-III said:

ok, unlabeled 🙂 Just wanted to emphasize that the bugtracker is proper place for this post.

Thanks. Tracking bugs is the developer’s responsibility, and not customers.

that is if they care to fix them

41 minutes ago, Supernova-III said:

Su-25, not SU, it's not an abbreviation.

You have completely side tracked this convo

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On 1/4/2025 at 4:53 AM, Supernova-III said:

Su-25, not SU, it's not an abbreviation.

It’s not? What is it then? I always assumed it was an abbreviation for Sukhoi. Like “MiG” is for Mikoyan and Gurevich. 

On 1/3/2025 at 8:42 PM, AeriaGloria said:

Could you show me where this “lever on the stick” is? 
 

Su-27 has same braking with pedals 

 

IMG_8280.jpeg

Now it just needs a proper ADI. :matrix:

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“The ADI is weird and not roll stabilized, but moves as you roll the aircraft. Along with the unconventional HUD, the roll of the silhouette compared to the earth of horizon was double the actual roll! I had to look at it imagining that I was flying behind the plane and radio controlling it” - paraphrase of First US pilot to fly the MiG-29 with Valery Menitsky 

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6 hours ago, Cab said:

It’s not? What is it then? I always assumed it was an abbreviation for Sukhoi. Like “MiG” is for Mikoyan and Gurevich. 

Now it just needs a proper ADI. :matrix:

Maybe he meant acronym?

ADI will be fine after power up and INS alignment.

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Posted
11 hours ago, AeriaGloria said:

Yea, during Su-27 development, test pilots said that having the brakes on the pedals was nice. So they ported it to Su-25 

Was this a post-production modification, then? Did the Su-25 originally have a brake lever on the stick?

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On 1/6/2025 at 2:58 PM, Cab said:

Was this a post-production modification, then? Did the Su-25 originally have a brake lever on the stick?

Brakes on pedals is typical solution for Sukhoi planes. And this solution was in use a waaaaay before su-27. Su-17 had brakes on pedals. So I don't think the statement about brakes on Su-27 is true. On su-25, brakes were always on pedals.

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