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Posted
5 hours ago, speed-of-heat said:

and what is "DeepOfField"?

Exacly that up there - its totaly change how u see things - before I was feeling in google like I was looking on the world thru the keywhole in doors. Now I feel like looking thru the window - no matter what IPD i set in my Samsung - the focus is all the time there - more like u change IPD with binoculars rather than focus.

 

Wanna add something more - As i mention Im a Samsung Odyssey Plus user - and during my break in DCS i spend lot of time in Assetto Corsa - in VR -and most valuable lesson Ive lerned is NEVER USE WINDOWS MIXED REALITY PORTAL with BEST QUALITY opion --> use Optimaze for Performence. I never use any other WMR, but this thing can be wilde across HMDs - for me it was a gamechanger, cause in quality mode its trying to SS image in worst posibly way (100% in Samsung Odyssey).

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do you mean depth of field ? 

 

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Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said:

do you mean depth of field ? 

 

 

This one. I was writing previous page post on 3AM* fogotten exacly name.

*EDIT: 4:19AM

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Posted (edited)

Can I please ask - those of you who see a noticeable difference with the VRdirectx profile, what your IPD is? (what you would normally set your headset to or what your optometrist said you have)

 years ago I experimented making stereoscopic video with a pair of cameras, and at the time I was told to be careful with camera angle (not camera distance apart) that people with above average IPD will be affected more greatly by angle settings and can give a surreal effect if angle is too extreme.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Dogmanbird said:

Can I please ask - those of you who see a noticeable difference with the VRdirectx profile, what your IPD is? (what you would normally set your headset to or what your optometrist said you have)

Samsung is 60 to 70mm, and I always play on 60mm.

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@nikoel "If you get black screens during play try adding this line into OpenComposite.ini 'enableLayers=false'"   I am only seeing flashes to black during the loading screen, not during actual flight. Is that what this is referring to as well or should I just ignore this?

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Posted
29 minutes ago, DirtyMike0330 said:

@nikoel "If you get black screens during play try adding this line into OpenComposite.ini 'enableLayers=false'"   I am only seeing flashes to black during the loading screen, not during actual flight. Is that what this is referring to as well or should I just ignore this?

No, this is for game play. I believe this is deprecated and is only used for some racing games

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Posted (edited)
14 hours ago, TylerPL666 said:

Just bing key "VR recenter" (UI Layout, or General keybindings) and just recenter position to your normal. I ussualy turn on DCS lookin on my 2d screen, when googles laying on desk. If they went sleep I use Win+Y to wake them up. If mouse is"dead" in center of 3d view just press WIN key to popup MenuStart and move cursor (In DCS first use Alt+Tab and next WIN key, cause LWIN as moddider will not popup StartMenu if DCS is focused).

Last tip as cherry on cake I will gave u VRAM saver tip: im using thiss small bunker for last couple months and with OpenXR Companion, 3Dmigoto VR enhancer and DeepOfField from Nvidia Inspector is MUST->HAVE

 

Since I installed OpenXR, it launches WMR automatically with no rooms anyway. So it would appear that the tips in this video, for me anyway, are irrelevant.

 

Besides…. Why is she sticking her tongue out and her top open? Must be watching something quirky. Like an ice-cream advert… or something else 😉

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Posted
1 hour ago, winghunter said:

OpenXR dev tools were updated, get it from the Micro$oft store

 

I go into the Microsoft store but have no update option available, just an open option.

Likewise if I open up OpenXRtools for Windows Mixed Reality - there is no update option either.

I'm currently running version  110.2204.7007.0 according to the About dialog in OpenXR Tools for WMR. Can you please confirm if this is the latest version or how we update?

Thanks

DZ

Posted

grafik.png yes

1 hour ago, Nodak said:

You meant OpenXR for Windows Mixed Reality, not the tools.

for me it showed an update on the dev tools in M$ store

 

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Posted

same here, I just got the update for OpenXR Tools for Windows Mixed Reality 110.2204.7007

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Posted
9 hours ago, winghunter said:

grafik.png yes

for me it showed an update on the dev tools in M$ store

 

I guess for those that had "use latest runtime" ticked in the MS OPenXR Tools for Windows Mixed Reality it updated automatically, hence we didn't see an option?

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Posted
2 hours ago, Baldrick33 said:

I guess for those that had "use latest runtime" ticked in the MS OPenXR Tools for Windows Mixed Reality it updated automatically, hence we didn't see an option?

It's just now updated on my win 11 install today (manually). The other machine that already had it is win 10 which I manually updated weeks ago. Seems to be available on a machine-by-machine basis.

 

Posted

I've just yesterday and today done.

1. Complete clean install of DCS, uninstalled DCS, deleted all files and folders in both programfiles and saved games, installed frech.
2. uninstalled WMR and reenstalled.
3. unsinstalled and reenstalled OPENXR
4. Uninstalled and reenstalled OPENXR tool kit.

As soon as I try and change anything in the tool kit, I get this when I start DCS

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Exactly the same as before all the uninstalling and installing, if I run tool kit in safe or set the tool kit to default, the game runs, but if I change anything in FSR/NIS I get this crash on startup.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, winghunter said:

I also get this crash with certain NIS settings, seems the driver doesnt like certain values

My defualt I've tried to get to work is FSR 80% resolution and sharpness 60%.

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Posted (edited)

Cant tell you which settings work for me, I no longer use it since i didnt like the artifacts. I rather have a slightly blurry image than all the jagged edges and shimmering. But i had to play around with nis/fsr and different scale settings until it wouldnt crash

start with sharpness 0% and 0.77 instead of 0.8 from what i remember

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Gunfreak said:

My defualt I've tried to get to work is FSR 80% resolution and sharpness 60%.

Do you have Windows UAC disabled?

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Sr. said:

Do you have Windows UAC disabled?

I have it on the lowest(never notify)
I can get the FPS to show, with out crashing, but any other changes causes crahing

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Posted

Can anyone with a 3090 and G2 recommend some settings for the OpenXR Toolkit? I'm dipping my toes into this and currently just have OpenXR with reprojection but have not added toolkit into the mix yet. 

Also, same question for anyone who has added the OpenXR compliant 3Dmigoto into the mix. 

I like the "less is more" approach, but if there are some basics to turn on with the aforementioned add-ons that helps more than it hurts, I'm curious what folks with similar setups are using. 

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Posted

100% FSR at 20% MIPMAP OFF QUALITY BALANCED

and set MR UNLOCKED set to  and Always in Dev Tools

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