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[Nighthawk 117]

I do not use steam vr just dcs OB via oculus however launching via skatezilla has worked for me. I forget the post i read but once you tell it where your dcs is and check steam vr instead of oculus then openxr works. Still messing with settings but noticed a major improvement to fps hope all works for you too

[Steel Jaw]

I do  not understand and do not want to read 47 pages.  I do not use Steam VR.  I use the Quest2 software.  Can I still use this app?

I do  not understand and do not want to read 47 pages.  I do not use Steam VR.  I use the Quest2 software.  Can I still use this app?

[Nighthawk 117]

7 minutes ago, Steel Jaw said:

I do  not understand and do not want to read 47 pages.  I do not use Steam VR.  I use the Quest2 software.  Can I still use this app?

I do  not understand and do not want to read 47 pages.  I do not use Steam VR.  I use the Quest2 software.  Can I still use this app?

Yes is the easy answer just follow what i did in previous post

[Steel Jaw]

Is WMR in W10 by default or must I install it?

[Nighthawk 117]

3 minutes ago, Steel Jaw said:

Is WMR in W10 by default or must I install it?

As your using quest you dont use WMR at all so no need to worry about it

[Steel Jaw]

44 minutes ago, Nighthawk 117 said:

As your using quest you dont use WMR at all so no need to worry about it

Cheers, brother, but for Quest2 users we still run the Quest software>?

[mtd2811]

Since the last OB update this doesnt work for me (used to before and was smooth- very happy).

Now in MP it gives me unplayable 15 FPS or less with massive screen lags.

I reverted back to SteamVR and MP is smooth again solid 45fps at vhigh settings.

Tried bak to open XR and same- fps tanks.

Went back to SteamVR and works fine.

Any ideas?


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[Nighthawk 117]

Yeah Then its Just trying to get settings your happy with hope all helps and improves vr For you

 

Edited April 9, 2022 by Nighthawk 117

[javelina1]

45 minutes ago, mtd2811 said:

Since the last OB update this doesnt work for me (used to before and was smooth- very happy).

Now in MP it gives me unplayable 15 FPS or less with massive screen lags.

I reverted back to SteamVR and MP is smooth again solid 45fps at vhigh settings.

Tried bak to open XR and same- fps tanks.

Went back to SteamVR and works fine.

Any ideas?


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did you back out the mod before the OB update?  It'll clobber files.  If so, then probably do this:

- back out any existing mods

- do a repair of DCS

- remove the fxo and metashader2 sub-dir's (in your c:/user/account_name/saved games/dcs openbeta.....)

- re-install the OpenXR and Toolkit per the instructions (to the letter).

- try again...

[Nightstorm]

It does indeed still work fine with OB 2.7.11.22211.  I always revert my install to a stock / unmodified state before an update and then clear the shaders just to be sure.  

In an earlier post, I mentioned I started getting random crashes on a couple of video driver related DLL's.  Turns out that I had FSR turned on for the sharpening.  It really doesn't seem to like having FSR turned on.

So, I'm using the 3DMigoto latest version for the sharpening only and OpenXR for everything else and the performance is still just as good.  Both mods work together just fine.

The current release has a version specifically for OpenXR.

 

3Dmigoto VR enhancer (digitalcombatsimulator.com)

 

 

[mtd2811]

did you back out the mod before the OB update?  It'll clobber files.  If so, then probably do this:
- back out any existing mods
- do a repair of DCS
- remove the fxo and metashader2 sub-dir's (in your c:/user/account_name/saved games/dcs openbeta.....)
- re-install the OpenXR and Toolkit per the instructions (to the letter).
- try again...

Thanks

I should have mentioned i had done all these but the result was fps tanking


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[archipelago]

sry guys, could not find anything on the topic- how do i get rid of barrel distortion when using openxr?.. have a G2.. thanks

[edmuss]

There shouldn't be any, I'd check that you have PD set to 1.0 in DCS first.

[archipelago]

2 hours ago, edmuss said:

There shouldn't be any, I'd check that you have PD set to 1.0 in DCS first.

yes that was it.. had it set to 1.1. now it works fine.  thanks

[KONGMAN]

hi all,

i install openxr and it works perfectly, after dcs update when i look on mirror in mig-21 big black box come in front of it. i try to reinstall the opex xr and still got the problem. it only happening in mp.

 

anyone help plz

thx

Edited April 10, 2022 by KONGMAN

[javelina1]

With OpenXR, the Toolkit, and now that "better 3D" tweak, DCS VR is just awesome.  I'm having a blast with the Apache, and cannot believe how good things look and run.  Really, really awesome stuff!

[TAW_Mago]

@nikoelThank you very much for this guide! 
The OVGME version didn´t work for me (SteamVR was still starting up) so I tried the manual version. SteamVR didn´t start anymore and at first it seemed like it would work properly since the mirror on my screen showed the hangar, menu, movement etc. but the VR screens inside the headset remained dark.

The solution is simple but doesn´t really make much sense for an average PC guy like me. Even though I followed your guide closely and cleaned and repaired everything with the DCS Updater Utility I had to completely delete the "options.lua" file within the saved games > DCS.openbeta > Config folder. Before doing so I ran the game without VR and made screenshots of all my settings. After deleting it, DCS on start up then asks to login (my data was still filled in) and creates a new file. Now it worked. I applied all the same settings I had before and expected it to stop working again followed by a long search for what setting would cause it but instead it just kept working fine. 
I hope this helps and thanks again! Huge FPS gain for me (1080ti).

Best regards 

TAW_Mago

[Felix 100]

On 4/9/2022 at 11:15 AM, Nightstorm said:

So, I'm using the 3DMigoto latest version for the sharpening only and OpenXR for everything else and the performance is still just as good.  Both mods work together just fine.

The current release has a version specifically for OpenXR.

 

3Dmigoto VR enhancer (digitalcombatsimulator.com)

 

 

I've been- and would like to continue for now - installing my mods manually. I'm a little confused on how to install this. There is a troubleshooting PDF that has a screenshot of the files and folders that need to be in the DCS bin folder, but there's more files that come with the app than what is actually present in the PDF's example screenshot. (example is the nvapi64 dll) Does the 3Dmigotoloader exe act as the installer or does that exe launch the app each time we want to use it? Let's start there - maybe that's what I'm missing. 

I'd really like to use this to reduce the haze - as I just feel I'm flying around in a blurry murk.

Also - since the move to OpenXR my G2 right hand controller has been acting odd. It still works but it keeps intermittently vibrating - in a twitching type of manner. It still works (I use the hand controllers in the cockpit over the mouse as I found it worked pretty well with SVR)

I got to thinking that there were settings in WMR4SVR related to the controllers that we no longer access outside anything SVR related. 

Edited April 11, 2022 by Felix 100

[TylerPL666]

Just bing key "VR recenter" (UI Layout, or General keybindings) and just recenter position to your normal. I ussualy turn on DCS lookin on my 2d screen, when googles laying on desk. If they went sleep I use Win+Y to wake them up. If mouse is"dead" in center of 3d view just press WIN key to popup MenuStart and move cursor (In DCS first use Alt+Tab and next WIN key, cause LWIN as moddider will not popup StartMenu if DCS is focused).

Last tip as cherry on cake I will gave u VRAM saver tip: im using thiss small bunker for last couple months and with OpenXR Companion, 3Dmigoto VR enhancer and DeepOfField from Nvidia Inspector is MUST->HAVE

 

[Nightstorm]

1 hour ago, Felix 100 said:

I've been- and would like to continue for now - installing my mods manually. I'm a little confused on how to install this. There is a troubleshooting PDF that has a screenshot of the files and folders that need to be in the DCS bin folder, but there's more files that come with the app than what is actually present in the PDF's example screenshot. (example is the nvapi64 dll) Does the 3Dmigotoloader exe act as the installer or does that exe launch the app each time we want to use it? Let's start there - maybe that's what I'm missing. 

I'd really like to use this to reduce the haze - as I just feel I'm flying around in a blurry murk.

Also - since the move to OpenXR my G2 right hand controller has been acting odd. It still works but it keeps intermittently vibrating - in a twitching type of manner. It still works (I use the hand controllers in the cockpit over the mouse as I found it worked pretty well with SVR)

I got to thinking that there were settings in WMR4SVR related to the controllers that we no longer access outside anything SVR related. 

 

The OpenXR mod contains a folder with two files in it and three other files that go in the BIN folder under DCS.

 

OBS pugin (Folder, I presume it's a misspelling of PLUGIN but that's the way it is) in that folder there are:

win-ocd3d.dll

win-ocd3d.pdb

And then the three files are:

D3DComiler_47.dll dated 6/5/21

opencomposite.ini

openvr_api.dll dated 3/31/22.

The two I specified the date stamp are files that replace original versions in DCS.  So, if the date doesn't match, they're not the versions from OpenXR mod.

 

And then, the 3DMigoto mod is in its own folder under BIN.  It's not directly related to the OpenXR mod, but the last version includes a compatible version.

 

It has these files:

 

NOTE:  I renamed the 3DMigoto loader.exe file to just Loader.exe.  It doesn't matter what it's called.

You need to run the Loader.exe before you start DCS.  It'll open a window that looks like this:

 

Then just open WMR portal and start DCS in VR mode.  As soon as DCS is running that window will have a line that it found the DCS.exe process and close.  Once in DCS you can confirm that 3DMigoto is running by using SHF F7 to bring up it's menu.

 

The OpenXR version requires that it be run in a separate folder from BIN and because of that, the loader needs to be run.  There was a compatibility issue with the D3DComiler_47.dll used by OpenXR and this resolved it.  One extra step, but minor.

[Felix 100]

2 hours ago, Nightstorm said:

The OpenXR mod contains a folder with two files in it and three other files that go in the BIN folder under DCS.

 

OBS pugin (Folder, I presume it's a misspelling of PLUGIN but that's the way it is) in that folder there are:

win-ocd3d.dll

win-ocd3d.pdb

And then the three files are:

D3DComiler_47.dll dated 6/5/21

opencomposite.ini

openvr_api.dll dated 3/31/22.

The two I specified the date stamp are files that replace original versions in DCS.  So, if the date doesn't match, they're not the versions from OpenXR mod.

 

 

Ok - so in the install guide for OXR in post 1 it mentions the 3 files but not the OBS pugin folder. I think it specifically says something like 'the files NOT the folder'.

2)    Download latest release (not source files) of OpenComposite here: https://gitlab.com/Jabbah/open-composite-acc/-/releases -
extract the following to the bin folder of your DCS installation
openvr_api, opencomposite, D3DCompiler_47 (the files – NOT folders)

I didn't put the OBS pugin folder into Bin - and it's been working. (well maybe partially?) I see that OBS folder in the download but I didn't do anything with it! That might be some good info, as I'm starting to get the sense that certain things just aren't having any effect - like the slider in the OpenXR DT or NIS scaling - specifically sharpness.  I got the 3Dmigoto working thanks to your help!

I've noticed that OpenXR for me with MR enabled and locked in the OXRTK at 45 has given me the smoothest experience I've had - but I feel like no matter what I do with the OXRDT resolution or NIS scaling or sharpness - nothing changes. The VR world for me has gone back to a murky unfocused haze. The Hornet MFD's and cockpit aren't as crisp and regardless of 100% or 150% on slider, I didn't see much change.

 

 

Edited April 11, 2022 by Felix 100

[Sile]

vor 3 Stunden schrieb Felix 100:

Ok - so in the install guide for OXR in post 1 it mentions the 3 files but not the OBS pugin folder. I think it specifically says something like 'the files NOT the folder'.

2)    Download latest release (not source files) of OpenComposite here: https://gitlab.com/Jabbah/open-composite-acc/-/releases -
extract the following to the bin folder of your DCS installation
openvr_api, opencomposite, D3DCompiler_47 (the files – NOT folders)

I didn't put the OBS pugin folder into Bin - and it's been working. (well maybe partially?) I see that OBS folder in the download but I didn't do anything with it! That might be some good info, as I'm starting to get the sense that certain things just aren't having any effect - like the slider in the OpenXR DT or NIS scaling - specifically sharpness.  I'll look at the 3DMigoto stuff now in depth.

 

I've noticed that OpenXR for me with MR enabled and locked in the OXRTK at 45 has given me the smoothest experience I've had - but I feel like no matter what I do with the OXRDT resolution or NIS scaling or sharpness - nothing changes. The VR world for me has gone back to a murky unfocused haze. The Hornet MFD's and cockpit aren't as crisp and regardless of 100% or 150% on slider, I didn't see much change.

 

 

 

OBS is for streamers, i think.

I'd love to be able to fly without MR. The Clarity without MR is great. MR makes everything very blurry.
But I can't fly without MR. Even with a framerate above 70 - 90 fps. Or locked to 45 fps with RTSS. I still see ghosting, especially when manouvering very fast - motions are not as smooth.

What saved it for me is using 3Dmigoto to regain sharpness.

Edited April 11, 2022 by Sile

[speed-of-heat]

4 hours ago, TylerPL666 said:

Just bing key "VR recenter" (UI Layout, or General keybindings) and just recenter position to your normal. I ussualy turn on DCS lookin on my 2d screen, when googles laying on desk. If they went sleep I use Win+Y to wake them up. If mouse is"dead" in center of 3d view just press WIN key to popup MenuStart and move cursor (In DCS first use Alt+Tab and next WIN key, cause LWIN as moddider will not popup StartMenu if DCS is focused).

Last tip as cherry on cake I will gave u VRAM saver tip: im using thiss small bunker for last couple months and with OpenXR Companion, 3Dmigoto VR enhancer and DeepOfField from Nvidia Inspector is MUST->HAVE

 

why not just use the included "infinite space" home that has been there since Novembers WMR release?  and what is "DeepOfField"?

[Lt_Jaeger]

11 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said:

why not just use the included "infinite space" home that has been there since Novembers WMR release?  and what is "DeepOfField"?

You might want to check it out

 

 

Subtle but worth it, in my opinion.

[Gunfreak]