Some love incoming!

[=475FG= Dawger]

2 hours ago, Volator said:

He is thinking of the wings breaking so easily, or rather the g-forces setting on too rapidly.

Yes, as I told a squad mate this morning, I wouldn’t mind the wings snapping off if there was significant nose movement associated with it. 
 

It defies the laws of physics to develop G force without nose rate. 10.3 G is somewhere in the vicinity of 30-40 degrees per second. 
 

Currently, either the G is totally disconnected from nose rate or the F-5 can onset catastrophic G in less than a third of a second. 
 

The former is an FM problem, the latter is a flight control model problem. 
 

My best guess is there is no limit on HSTAB rate of deflection and it can deflect instantly to the stop at any speed. 
 

And the aileron limits are applied incorrectly. 

Edited May 18, 2024 by =475FG= Dawger

[Bucic]

15 hours ago, =475FG= Dawger said:

Yes, as I told a squad mate this morning, I wouldn’t mind the wings snapping off if there was significant nose movement associated with it. 
 

It defies the laws of physics to develop G force without nose rate. 10.3 G is somewhere in the vicinity of 30-40 degrees per second. 
 

Currently, either the G is totally disconnected from nose rate or the F-5 can onset catastrophic G in less than a third of a second. 
 

The former is an FM problem, the latter is a flight control model problem. 
 

My best guess is there is no limit on HSTAB rate of deflection and it can deflect instantly to the stop at any speed. 
 

And the aileron limits are applied incorrectly. 

 

This has always seem weird to me as I rarely get wings to break while playing on an Xbox controller.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

On 5/18/2024 at 7:14 PM, =475FG= Dawger said:

10.3 G is somewhere in the vicinity of 30-40 degrees per second.

Doesn't that depend on airspeed? Even in the Hornet it's very easy to pull 10+ Gs without paddle at high speed and high altitude 

[=475FG= Dawger]

2 hours ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

Doesn't that depend on airspeed? Even in the Hornet it's very easy to pull 10+ Gs without paddle at high speed and high altitude 

It isn’t so much the ease at which you can generate X G. Its that you can get large amount of G without the nose moving commensurate with the G. 
 

Its either an error in the physics or the stabilator moves so rapidly that the G spikes to catastrophic failure level so fast the nose doesn’t move much before the wings crack off. 
 

There is an artificial feel system in the airplane to prevent exactly the latter scenario from occurring by making it harder to pull on the stick at high speed. I am assuming this isn’t modeled at all. 

And the aileron limits are modeled incorrectly 

 

[Bucic]

The model file F-5E-3 has been updated. I assume it's the external model. Any visible differences?

Edited June 6, 2024 by Bucic

[Flappie]

An old issue was fixed:

 

[Bucic]

6 minutes ago, Flappie said:

An old issue was fixed:

 

Ah, thanks for the info. Now I know I haven't seen that issue because I own the module. To be honest I was just about to fire up a mission hoping I'd spot some improvements to the general aircraft 3D model...

[Peregrino]

I would pay at once, for an upgrade that include graphic improvement, bugs polished and Mavericks (and maybe the kit for laser guided bombs). I can undertand that ANRAAM is so specific to the Brazilian version, but Mavs are more common since the 80' updates of the F5. Thats even noted in the DCS F5E Handbook, including pictures.

Even more, if one day they included the two crew trainer version, I'll also will pay more, for a second upgrade. In my opinion, AERGES set the bar really high with the F1 versions, all included in one module.

 

Edited July 7, 2024 by Peregrino

[=475FG= Dawger]

4 hours ago, Peregrino said:

I would pay at once, for an upgrade that include graphic improvement, bugs polished and Mavericks (and maybe the kit for laser guided bombs). I can undertand that ANRAAM is so specific to the Brazilian version, but Mavs are more common since the 80' updates of the F5. Thats even noted in the DCS F5E Handbook, including pictures.

Even more, if one day they included the two crew trainer version, I'll also will pay more, for a second upgrade. In my opinion, AERGES set the bar really high with the F1 versions, all included in one module.

 

 

The F-5 already drops LGB's. 

[Peregrino]

hace 5 horas, =475FG= Dawger dijo:

The F-5 already drops LGB's. 

I know, but laser guided by allied forces, only.

Edited July 7, 2024 by Peregrino

[nairb121]

The F-5E-3 would not be able to use Mavericks without significant upgrades, it wouldn't be able to interface with the missile and doesn't have an appropriate display. It also has no means of laser designation - I believe some F-5Fs were equipped with laser designators in the rear cockpit, but the E doesn't have anything like that.

[Peregrino]

hace 3 horas, nairb121 dijo:

The F-5E-3 would not be able to use Mavericks without significant upgrades, it wouldn't be able to interface with the missile and doesn't have an appropriate display. It also has no means of laser designation - I believe some F-5Fs were equipped with laser designators in the rear cockpit, but the E doesn't have anything like that.

In the F1 Module, you'll have enough differente versions, to have a goood view of the through time, posibilities, in equipments, weapons and systems, in that plane. Why can not be happening some day this, on the global F5E? At leat a minimum, some of the most common upgrades, that happened in the eighties?.

The F5E has an incredible long list of upgrades and upgraded versions.

Edited July 8, 2024 by Peregrino

[VPS_Choki]

 

[LordOrion]

https://x.com/eagledynamics/status/1859975626037313962

 

[_BringTheReign_]

So happy about this upgrade for the art alone. I hope, is there even a slim chance we may see a refueling probe and maverick capability? 

[Rudel_chw]

9 minutes ago, _BringTheReign_ said:

is there even a slim chance we may see a refueling probe and maverick capability? 

 

Dont think so, as they are not mentioned on the announcement ... bet there will be a laser guided bombs capability.

[LordOrion]

1 minute ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

Dont think so, as they are not mentioned on the announcement ... bet there will be a laser guided bombs capability.

We already have GBU-12, just can't lase them.

[Bucic]

Yesss! I can't believe this!

It was such a long time more along the lines of this meme!

QUESTION: Is the new landing gear physics already included?

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[snocc_]

extremely sad update tbh. 10 extra dollars if you own it and a jacked up price if you dont for stuff that boils down to bug fixes and textures just makes ED look bad. maybe if a new F-5 was developed like with the A-10C2 or BS3 it'd be a good upgrade module and be worth more money but the newsletter makes it sound like it'll just be the same F-5E-3 as always and that's a shame

[Cab]

Let's hope damage model tuning includes the wing breaking issue.

15 minutes ago, snocc_ said:

extremely sad update tbh. 10 extra dollars if you own it and a jacked up price if you dont for stuff that boils down to bug fixes and textures just makes ED look bad. maybe if a new F-5 was developed like with the A-10C2 or BS3 it'd be a good upgrade module and be worth more money but the newsletter makes it sound like it'll just be the same F-5E-3 as always and that's a shame

I hope ED intends to apply any updates identified as "bug fixes" to the current version, too.

[Rudel_chw]

2 hours ago, snocc_ said:

extremely sad update tbh.

I’m not even flying the F-5E at the moment, but I will purchase the upgrade anyway, to encourage ED to upgrade other modules too, even if its mainly cosmetic … I’d love  to have an upgraded Mi-8 or UH-1 

[Bucic]

1 hour ago, Cab said:

Let's hope damage model tuning includes the wing breaking issue.

I hope ED intends to apply any updates identified as "bug fixes" to the current version, too.

This has been confirmed in Youtube comments by ED, officially. Please wait for the imminent FAQ.

[Cab]

59 minutes ago, Bucic said:

This has been confirmed in Youtube comments by ED, officially. Please wait for the imminent FAQ.

Yep, I see the comment about the bug fixes: "All bug fixes will be free to existing F-5E owners. You are not paying for bug fixes.  Truthfully, I would have been really surprised if that wasn't the case.

Nothing about the wings, though. I fear the worst. 

Edited November 22, 2024 by Cab

[=475FG= Dawger]

4 hours ago, Cab said:

Yep, I see the comment about the bug fixes: "All bug fixes will be free to existing F-5E owners. You are not paying for bug fixes.  Truthfully, I would have been really surprised if that wasn't the case.

Nothing about the wings, though. I fear the worst. 

It would be quite funny to pay even more money for wings that still fall off.

I think I will pass.

I haven't touched the F-5 in almost a year and now all the fun places to fly it in MP are history.

[Cab]

1 hour ago, =475FG= Dawger said:

It would be quite funny to pay even more money for wings that still fall off.

I think I will pass.

I haven't touched the F-5 in almost a year and now all the fun places to fly it in MP are history.

Yes, after giving it a little thought, I’ve decided I won’t buy the upgrade if the wing issue isn’t fixed. It’s just irksome to me they insist nothing’s wrong.

Edited November 23, 2024 by Cab