Is it going to be worth going 3090 to 4090?

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

NVIDIA sucks when it comes to selling 4090 FE.

 

I heard the AMD will announce the new line of GPU in Nov but they will only be available early next year. And you need to wait longer to see if they perform better, to my primary concern, in VR or not.

[Supmua]

30 minutes ago, BigBANGtheory said:

I looked at getting a Founders Edition but there were non for sale, usual Nvidia drip feed of product and no way to pre-order not exactly a customer friendly experience but I guess it will pickup in a few weeks and it gets ever closer to the AMD launch

Even today's release is trickled, they don't let it all out at once for some reason.  A friend of mine who missed out on the AM release was able to get one later in the afternoon.

[Scofflaw]

I managed to get an order in for a 4090 before they sold out - it's arriving next week.  I'm already running DCS pretty maxed out on my 3090, so we'll see what difference this makes.

[Supmua]

A guy on Varjo discord said he hits 80 fps at times from typical 40s, so that’s a bit encouraging considering the rendering res is quite high on the Aero even on the default setting but I won’t know for sure until I get to mess around with it myself.  I don’t really need 90 fps in DCS (would be nice to see), just want a rock solid 45 in all flying scenarios with locked frame…although having 100 fps in No Mans Sky or 200 in Elite Dangerous is also nice.

[Mr. Big.Biggs]

Crazy thing is I was on multiple waiting list back long ago for the 3090. Gave up finally. Maybe get on the 5090 list and be first??  
crazy how fast computers become obsolete but saved me $1500 plus

Edited October 12, 2022 by Mr. Big.Biggs

[Mr. Big.Biggs]

17 minutes ago, Supmua said:

A guy on Varjo discord said he hits 80 fps at times from typical 40s, so that’s a bit encouraging considering the rendering res is quite high on the Aero even on the default setting but I won’t know for sure until I get to mess around with it myself.  I don’t really need 90 fps in DCS (would be nice to see), just want a rock solid 45 in all flying scenarios with locked frame…although having 100 fps in No Mans Sky or 200 in Elite Dangerous is also nice.

They have been pumping high fps/resolutions on varjo since it was released. Don’t believe it…

[dburne]

43 minutes ago, Supmua said:

A guy on Varjo discord said he hits 80 fps at times from typical 40s, so that’s a bit encouraging considering the rendering res is quite high on the Aero even on the default setting but I won’t know for sure until I get to mess around with it myself.  I don’t really need 90 fps in DCS (would be nice to see), just want a rock solid 45 in all flying scenarios with locked frame…although having 100 fps in No Mans Sky or 200 in Elite Dangerous is also nice.

I look forward to hearing your results when you have tested it with DCS.

[Supmua]

1 hour ago, dburne said:

I look forward to hearing your results when you have tested it with DCS.

There’s someone here with 90 fps with the Samsung Odessey already, so it’s a matter of settings and rendering res.  I don’t think sustained 90 will be possible on the Aero unless you compromise image quality significantly but I’m eager to run some numbers for sure even though my CPU isn’t ideal at the moment.  I’m planning to upgrade to 13900K though but have to wait a few months since I already spent a lot recently (4090, 2TB Samsung 980pro NVME, Apple Watch Ultra, GPD Winmax 2 laptop, lol my wife will kill me when she sees the bills).

Edited October 13, 2022 by Supmua

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

Just whining, there is no sale here in the UK, FE or AIB alike. NVIDIA store gives "Assess denied" error from time to time.

Edited October 13, 2022 by VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants

[Supmua]

2 hours ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said:

Just whining, there is no sale here in the UK, FE or AIB alike. NVIDIA store gives "Assess denied" error from time to time.

 

I’d stay away from NIVIDIA store, check resellers or large electronic stores.  First day release is always like this but you’ll get one eventually.  I just saw Asus ROG Strix listed on Amazon 3rd party seller/scalper for $4299.99 which is ridiculous.

Edited October 13, 2022 by Supmua

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

3 minutes ago, Supmua said:

I’d stay away from NIVIDIA store, check resellers or large electronic stores.  First day release is always like this but you’ll get one eventually.  I just saw Asus ROG Strix listed on Amazon 3rd party seller/scalper for $4299.99 which is ridiculous.

 

Thanks I am not in any rush and I wish to have a FE only for the price.

[dburne]

1 hour ago, Supmua said:

I’d stay away from NIVIDIA store, check resellers or large electronic stores.  First day release is always like this but you’ll get one eventually.  I just saw Asus ROG Strix listed on Amazon 3rd party seller/scalper for $4299.99 which is ridiculous.

 

Yep and that is why cards are going to be hard to get this go around.. Scalpers grabbing them up.

[dburne]

10 hours ago, Supmua said:

There’s someone here with 90 fps with the Samsung Odessey already, so it’s a matter of settings and rendering res.  I don’t think sustained 90 will be possible on the Aero unless you compromise image quality significantly but I’m eager to run some numbers for sure even though my CPU isn’t ideal at the moment.  I’m planning to upgrade to 13900K though but have to wait a few months since I already spent a lot recently (4090, 2TB Samsung 980pro NVME, Apple Watch Ultra, GPD Winmax 2 laptop, lol my wife will kill me when she sees the bills).

 

Being how I am still running my 9900k with no plan on upgrading the system for at least another year or so I will be really glad to see how it does for you with your 9900k.

[Supmua]

Just now, dburne said:

Being how I am still running my 9900k with no plan on upgrading the system for at least another year or so I will be really glad to see how it does for you with your 9900k.

Don I think most of your flyings will be fine with the 9900K unless you play in a crowded MP server, since my CPU frametime is never above 22 ms unless I fly directly near populated supercarrier.  It was mostly my GPU frametime that would spike in to high 20s or 30s in those situations.

[dburne]

Just now, Supmua said:

Don I think most of your flyings will be fine with the 9900K unless you play in a crowded MP server, since my CPU frametime is never above 22 ms unless I fly directly near populated supercarrier.  It was mostly my GPU frametime that would spike in to high 20s or 30s in those situations.

Yeah just all single player for me and have not been what I would call struggling running the sim.

 

Thanks,

[Supmua]

2 hours ago, dburne said:

Yeah just all single player for me and have not been what I would call struggling running the sim.

 

Thanks,

I mostly play SP as well, and sometimes I hosted with 2-3 other guys.  My CPU hasn't really been a problem and I either have fpsVR or OXRTK window on all the time to track performance.

[Baltic Pirate]

13 hours ago, Supmua said:

There’s someone here with 90 fps with the Samsung Odessey already, so it’s a matter of settings and rendering res.  I don’t think sustained 90 will be possible on the Aero unless you compromise image quality significantly but I’m eager to run some numbers for sure even though my CPU isn’t ideal at the moment.  I’m planning to upgrade to 13900K though but have to wait a few months since I already spent a lot recently (4090, 2TB Samsung 980pro NVME, Apple Watch Ultra, GPD Winmax 2 laptop, lol my wife will kill me when she sees the bills).

 

I just don't tell the wife... Better that way.

[HC_Official]

I could easily afford a 4090 card, I am not buying one on principal  Nvidia are totally taking the P when it comes to pricing on these next gen cards

Maybe if enough people did this they might consider reducing their prices, but if enough people buy them it does not bode well for the future

[dburne]

46 minutes ago, HC_Official said:

I could easily afford a 4090 card, I am not buying one on principal  Nvidia are totally taking the P when it comes to pricing on these next gen cards

Maybe if enough people did this they might consider reducing their prices, but if enough people buy them it does not bode well for the future

 

Yeah still resisting here. My 3090  card still running quite well for me.

[speed-of-heat]

I’m in watch and wait mode at the moment,but, the price performance is honestly similar to that of a 3090, the absolute cost is still quite eye watering …  but I don’t think it’s bad value.

so why wait? A few reasons:

- couldn’t find one

- I’m genuinely interested to see what the 4080ti and sisters comparison will be to the 3090.

- finally most of the time I can reach a steady frame time with oxr and my existing 3090.

will I get a new card, I likely will but it doesn’t “need” to be today, unlike when I upgraded from my 1080ti.

[BigBANGtheory]

1 hour ago, dburne said:

 

Yeah still resisting here. My 3090  card still running quite well for me.

You're ok for now, you can't buy em even if you want one 

[zildac]

Mines, an amazingly pricey desk ornament at present due to the Varjo issue

[VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants]

I am in the wait mode by default -- waiting for the components to get cheaper, may be, on Cyber Monday.

Funny though, I check NVIDIA shop just then and, you know what, there are AIBs too, and the price is...better wait for the benchmarks and reviews:

https://store.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/store/gpu/?page=2&limit=9&locale=en-us&category=GPU&gpu=RTX 4090&gpu_filter=RTX 4090~12,RTX 3090 Ti~2,RTX 3090~4,RTX 3080 Ti~3,RTX 3080~4,RTX 3070 Ti~2,RTX 3070~2,RTX 3060 Ti~2,RTX 3060~0,RTX 3050 Ti~0,RTX 3050~2,RTX 2080 SUPER~0,RTX 2070 SUPER~0,RTX 2060~1,GTX 1660 Ti~1,GTX 1650 Ti~0,GTX 1650~1

[Supmua]

1 hour ago, speed-of-heat said:

I’m in watch and wait mode at the moment,but, the price performance is honestly similar to that of a 3090, the absolute cost is still quite eye watering …  but I don’t think it’s bad value.

so why wait? A few reasons:

- couldn’t find one

- I’m genuinely interested to see what the 4080ti and sisters comparison will be to the 3090.

- finally most of the time I can reach a steady frame time with oxr and my existing 3090.

will I get a new card, I likely will but it doesn’t “need” to be today, unlike when I upgraded from my 1080ti.

The 4080 16GB has better fps than 3090Ti in recently leaked game benchmarks, and this is not simply synthetic benchmarks.  So it’s a faster card plus DLSS3 and better raytracing, just lower amount of VRAM.  But I still think the 4090 is the better bang for bucks especially for VR with significant shift in performance.

[zildac]

2 minutes ago, VR Flight Guy in PJ Pants said:

I am in the wait mode by default -- waiting for the components to get cheaper, may be, on Cyber Monday.

Funny though, I check NVIDIA shop just then and, you know what, there are AIBs too, and the price is...better wait for the benchmarks and reviews:

https://store.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/store/gpu/?page=2&limit=9&locale=en-us&category=GPU&gpu=RTX 4090&gpu_filter=RTX 4090~12,RTX 3090 Ti~2,RTX 3090~4,RTX 3080 Ti~3,RTX 3080~4,RTX 3070 Ti~2,RTX 3070~2,RTX 3060 Ti~2,RTX 3060~0,RTX 3050 Ti~0,RTX 3050~2,RTX 2080 SUPER~0,RTX 2070 SUPER~0,RTX 2060~1,GTX 1660 Ti~1,GTX 1650 Ti~0,GTX 1650~1

Strangely, the prices on there for the AIB units look like they are exclusive of VAT, as the TUF OC price is what I paid EX Vat from OC in the UK...or it's the OC margin!