Mustang Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) 522.25 was released today, installed and fired up DCS and was greeted with a crash during loading, reverted to previous driver and everything is fine again (GPU ASUS 3090, OS Win 10) # -------------- 20221012-172518 -------------- DCS/2.7.18.30765 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19043) D:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\dx11backend.dll # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 723A4C24 00:00000000 SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;D:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta;D:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 528, UserName: 'Mustang' OS-Version: 10.0.19043 () 0x100-0x1 0x0000000000014C24 (dx11backend): RenderAPI::DX11Renderer::initDevice + 0xB4 0x0000000000013F0E (dx11backend): RenderAPI::DX11Renderer::init + 0x34E 0x00000000000335FE (GraphicsVista): Graphics::Renderer::initialize + 0x4CE 0x0000000000178BE8 (Visualizer): smSceneManager::CreateSceneManager + 0x68 0x000000000084D14A (DCS): SW + 0x5236DA 0x000000000084B926 (DCS): SW + 0x521EB6 0x0000000001D4EDE6 (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xED5DE2 0x0000000000A7775E (DCS): SW + 0x74DCEE 0x0000000000017034 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14 0x00000000000526A1 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21 Edited October 12, 2022 by Mustang 2
silverdevil Posted October 12, 2022 Posted October 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Mustang said: 522.25 was released today, installed and fired up DCS and was greeted with a crash during loading, reverted to previous driver and everything is fine again (GPU ASUS 3090, OS Win 10) # -------------- 20221012-172518 -------------- DCS/2.7.18.30765 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19043) D:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\dx11backend.dll # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 723A4C24 00:00000000 SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;D:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta;D:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 528, UserName: 'Mustang' OS-Version: 10.0.19043 () 0x100-0x1 0x0000000000014C24 (dx11backend): RenderAPI::DX11Renderer::initDevice + 0xB4 0x0000000000013F0E (dx11backend): RenderAPI::DX11Renderer::init + 0x34E 0x00000000000335FE (GraphicsVista): Graphics::Renderer::initialize + 0x4CE 0x0000000000178BE8 (Visualizer): smSceneManager::CreateSceneManager + 0x68 0x000000000084D14A (DCS): SW + 0x5236DA 0x000000000084B926 (DCS): SW + 0x521EB6 0x0000000001D4EDE6 (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xED5DE2 0x0000000000A7775E (DCS): SW + 0x74DCEE 0x0000000000017034 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14 0x00000000000526A1 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21 whew. i nearly pressed the fire button. did you happen to reset everything in NCP to default? i know from previous experience nvidia going up a full version(s) like 517 to 522 may have new settings that have to be checked. though i did look at the changelog and did not see anything. i am still on 516.94. AKA_SilverDevil Join AKA Wardogs Email Address My YouTube “The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.” - Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace. The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode.
FR4GGL3 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 I don't see these crashes on 522.25. But that doesn't mean that they aren't there (maybe because of different CPU, different Monitor and so on). I just wanted to say that it might be helpfull that a few more people could try to reproduce it. If you suffer, reverting back to your previous drivers should fix it. So there is no risk in my opinion. 14700K | MSI Z690 Carbon | Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC | 64GB DDR5 6000 G.Skill Ripjaws S5 | Asus Essence STX 2 on a Violectric V90 Headphone amp and Fostex TH600 Headphones | LG 42 C227LA & Samsung C32HG70 | TrackIR 5 | Moza AB9 and Virpil Constellation Alpha Grip | Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle | VKB T-Rudder Pedals MK IV I only fool around the F-14 - and still having a hard time on it as there is so much to learn and so little time and talent. But I love it.
Mustang Posted October 13, 2022 Author Posted October 13, 2022 Rgr FR4GGL3 saw your post over in the Guru3D forums - guess it's just a combo of hardware/OS/BIOS settings etc and I'm tripping up with this driver branch, I'll give it another go when another newer driver comes along.
FR4GGL3 Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 I totaly understand your point. But if there is a bug in the driver, it can only got caught if there are more people that can confirm it. Because of this it is good to report such issues and it would be important if others give this new driver a try to see if there is a bug or not. A potential driver bug that brakes DCS is a horror story for me... I really appreciate your report of this crash! 14700K | MSI Z690 Carbon | Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC | 64GB DDR5 6000 G.Skill Ripjaws S5 | Asus Essence STX 2 on a Violectric V90 Headphone amp and Fostex TH600 Headphones | LG 42 C227LA & Samsung C32HG70 | TrackIR 5 | Moza AB9 and Virpil Constellation Alpha Grip | Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle | VKB T-Rudder Pedals MK IV I only fool around the F-14 - and still having a hard time on it as there is so much to learn and so little time and talent. But I love it.
Mud Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 I just installed the driver to check if I could replicate on my end. No crash in VR and 2D. Loaded up a mission in NTTR and got into the F-14A. Windows 10 with the Nvidia 522.25 driver (no HD Audio driver installed). Latest DCS open beta. See sig for my specs. Br, Mud Spoiler W10-x64 | B650E Gigabyte Aorus Master | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | Noctua NH-D15 G.Skill Trident ZS Neo DDR5-6000 64Gb | MSI RTX 3080ti Gaming X Asus Xonar AE | TM Hotas Warthog MFG Crosswind pedals | Valve Index
CrashEd Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 Anyone getting bad performance with this driver? My FPS halved...
CrashEd Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, CrashEd said: Anyone getting bad performance with this driver? My FPS halved... Scratch that, the new driver defaulted all of my NVIDIA Control Panel settings. Edited October 13, 2022 by CrashEd 1
Mud Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 No performance drop here either as far as I noticed, coming from 516.40. 60fps @ 200% res in the Valve Index on the Nevada map (cold F-14). That is without clouds though. As soon as I enable those, I drop to 40fps unfortunately. 1 Spoiler W10-x64 | B650E Gigabyte Aorus Master | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | Noctua NH-D15 G.Skill Trident ZS Neo DDR5-6000 64Gb | MSI RTX 3080ti Gaming X Asus Xonar AE | TM Hotas Warthog MFG Crosswind pedals | Valve Index
mokrunka Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 2 hours ago, CrashEd said: Scratch that, the new driver defaulted all of my NVIDIA Control Panel settings. It did mine too, can you share your NV CP settings?
silverdevil Posted October 13, 2022 Posted October 13, 2022 i saw some click bait in my news feed today. there is a rumor that this driver "can" improve performance. but the games tested are not DCS. AKA_SilverDevil Join AKA Wardogs Email Address My YouTube “The MIGS came up, the MIGS were aggressive, we tangled, they lost.” - Robin Olds - An American fighter pilot. He was a triple ace. The only man to ever record a confirmed kill while in glide mode.
CrashEd Posted October 14, 2022 Posted October 14, 2022 16 hours ago, mokrunka said: It did mine too, can you share your NV CP settings? pretty much as per this guide with a few tweaks:
Cowboy10uk Posted October 15, 2022 Posted October 15, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 6:29 PM, Mustang said: 522.25 was released today, installed and fired up DCS and was greeted with a crash during loading, reverted to previous driver and everything is fine again (GPU ASUS 3090, OS Win 10) # -------------- 20221012-172518 -------------- DCS/2.7.18.30765 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19043) D:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\dx11backend.dll # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 723A4C24 00:00000000 SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;D:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta;D:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 528, UserName: 'Mustang' OS-Version: 10.0.19043 () 0x100-0x1 0x0000000000014C24 (dx11backend): RenderAPI::DX11Renderer::initDevice + 0xB4 0x0000000000013F0E (dx11backend): RenderAPI::DX11Renderer::init + 0x34E 0x00000000000335FE (GraphicsVista): Graphics::Renderer::initialize + 0x4CE 0x0000000000178BE8 (Visualizer): smSceneManager::CreateSceneManager + 0x68 0x000000000084D14A (DCS): SW + 0x5236DA 0x000000000084B926 (DCS): SW + 0x521EB6 0x0000000001D4EDE6 (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xED5DE2 0x0000000000A7775E (DCS): SW + 0x74DCEE 0x0000000000017034 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14 0x00000000000526A1 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21 Glad it’s not just me struggling then. in process of rolling back the drivers now. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh:
Flappie Posted October 15, 2022 Posted October 15, 2022 Have you tried resetting your NVIDIA settings before reverting? ---
Mustang Posted October 19, 2022 Author Posted October 19, 2022 Update: just installed newer 522.30 and DCS works fine https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/nvidia-522-30-driver.445088/#post-6062489 1
bandit648 Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) No crashes but I was experiencing stuttering (frametime spikes) after installing 522.25. Rolled back to 516.94 and problem is gone. Anyone else seeing poor performance/stutter with 522.25? Win11 22H2 and RTX3090 here. Edited October 20, 2022 by bandit648 PC Hardware: Asus Maximus XIII Hero / i9-10900K / 64 GB DDR4 3600 MHz / NVIDIA RTX 3090 FE / Samsung 960 NVMe / LG OLED48CX / Reverb G2 Flight Controls: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog / VKB T-RUDDER MKIV / Cougar MFD Set DCS Modules: F-14 Tomcat / F/A-18C Hornet / AV-8B NA / F-5E Tiger II / A-10C Warthog / F-16C Viper / UH-1 Huey / LOFC3 / Spitfire LF Mk. IX / P-51D Mustang / WWII Assets Pack / Normandy 1944 / NTTR Map / Persian Gulf Map / Syria Map
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